[nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters dragged from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?

[Karen Rose]

Actually we are in the middle of passing a single-payer program – it will probably not get through until next year. This will mean that anyone living in California will be able to see a doctor when needed from the time we are born to the time we die.

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> On Jun 26, 2017, at 11:35 PM, Loren Wakefield <theweird1 at mediacombb.net> wrote:
> 
> I hope you enjoy California as it follows Illinois in to total collapse.
> Then absolutely onoone will receive anything.  Enjoy.  
> 
> Loren 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karen Rose
> via nfb-talk
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 1:24 AM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Cc: Karen Rose
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters
> dragged from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?
> 
> Obamacare is doing quite well here in California. I except Obamacare
> insurances is part of my practice and we have had no problem with these
> insurances. We have many companies in California in the Obama care program
> including expanded medic Kayde.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 11:07 PM, Maria via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Obama care is dying, so something needs to be done.  If there isn't 
>> any new proposals then millions of Americans will be left out in the 
>> cold.  Whether we like it or not things cannot continue as is because 
>> Obama care is collapsing and it needs to be replaced.  This  means 
>> that the government needs to work together to come up with something 
>> that is in the best interest of all Americans. instead of all this 
>> fear mongering and division they need to come  together and find
> solutions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karen 
>> Rose via nfb-talk
>> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:01 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Cc: Karen Rose; Jen
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters 
>> dragged from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?
>> 
>> So if we who are working plus the government do not pay for it then 
>> who will? What happens to those who cannot afford to pay for it? Is 
>> healthcare only the right of those who are wealthy? Or a human right 
>> for everyone
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Loren Wakefield via nfb-talk
>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It probably is not the place for it.  However, since you aksed, the 
>>> real
>> question is not if healthcare is a humany right; rather, the question 
>> should be, should or should not the government pay for it.  And that 
>> is way out of the bounds of this list in my humble opinion.  But it is 
>> a very interesting topic.
>>> 
>>> Loren
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jack 
>>> Heim via nfb-talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 10:26 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Cc: Jack Heim; Jen
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters 
>>> dragged
>> from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?
>>> 
>>> Paul Ryan is a fan of Ayn Rand  and Rand Paul was named after her. So 
>>> I
>> don't think they are going to be swayed by anything the United Nations
> says.
>> That might actually work against it.  And I am not sure it is possible 
>> to carry on a philosophical debate on this list but I'd be interested 
>> in hearing what the conservatives on this list say. Is health care a 
>> human right?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 06/25/2017 07:47 PM, Jen via nfb-talk wrote:
>>>> Hi Karen,
>>>> 
>>>> I feel compelled to add to your message, with which I absolutely agree.
>> In the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, health care is stated as 
>> a huam right. I can pull up that part of the UCHR if you want. 
>> Personally, I feel health care is a human right.
>>>> 
>>>> Jen
>>>> 
>>>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Karen Rose via nfb-talk
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 7:32 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Karen Rose <rosekm at earthlink.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters 
>>>> dragged
>> from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?
>>>> 
>>>> I think the issue here is whether healthcare, not health insurance, 
>>>> is a
>> right or a privilege. When we talk about our right to life liberty and 
>> the pursuit of happiness, doesn't that include the right to visit a 
>> doctor when needed and thus to remain alive? If so then we need 
>> Medicare for all in the country from the time we are born to the time we
> die.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Jack Heim via nfb-talk
>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ray, you need to learn to con
>> 
>> 
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