[nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters dragged from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?

Tue Jun 27 13:25:51 UTC 2017

You need to provide some facts here. You can't just say, "Obamacare is 
failing" and expect the rest of us to believe it. You got any actual 
facts to back that up?  And Every system has problems. ByBut that's not 
the same as "failing". Again, it's like saying your car has failed when 
it runs out of gas.

On 06/27/2017 01:34 AM, Loren Wakefield via nfb-talk wrote:
> And given that Obamacare is failing, and people cannot afford it, and all
> the insurance companies are withdrawing from it, what is your solution?
>
> Loren
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karen Rose
> via nfb-talk
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 1:25 AM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Cc: Karen Rose
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters
> dragged from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?
>
> So far it appears that Republican politicians would like to end Obama care
> and take away the ability to see a doctor for 23 million Americans. This
> will involve a great many deaths. Is this what we want? I don't
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 11:07 PM, Maria via nfb-talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Obama care is dying, so something needs to be done.  If there isn't
>> any new proposals then millions of Americans will be left out in the
>> cold.  Whether we like it or not things cannot continue as is because
>> Obama care is collapsing and it needs to be replaced.  This  means
>> that the government needs to work together to come up with something
>> that is in the best interest of all Americans. instead of all this
>> fear mongering and division they need to come  together and find
> solutions.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karen
>> Rose via nfb-talk
>> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:01 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Cc: Karen Rose; Jen
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters
>> dragged from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?
>>
>> So if we who are working plus the government do not pay for it then
>> who will? What happens to those who cannot afford to pay for it? Is
>> healthcare only the right of those who are wealthy? Or a human right
>> for everyone
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Loren Wakefield via nfb-talk
>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> It probably is not the place for it.  However, since you aksed, the
>>> real
>> question is not if healthcare is a humany right; rather, the question
>> should be, should or should not the government pay for it.  And that
>> is way out of the bounds of this list in my humble opinion.  But it is
>> a very interesting topic.
>>>
>>> Loren
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jack
>>> Heim via nfb-talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 10:26 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Cc: Jack Heim; Jen
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters
>>> dragged
>> from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?
>>>
>>> Paul Ryan is a fan of Ayn Rand  and Rand Paul was named after her. So
>>> I
>> don't think they are going to be swayed by anything the United Nations
> says.
>> That might actually work against it.  And I am not sure it is possible
>> to carry on a philosophical debate on this list but I'd be interested
>> in hearing what the conservatives on this list say. Is health care a
>> human right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 06/25/2017 07:47 PM, Jen via nfb-talk wrote:
>>>> Hi Karen,
>>>>
>>>> I feel compelled to add to your message, with which I absolutely agree.
>> In the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, health care is stated as
>> a huam right. I can pull up that part of the UCHR if you want.
>> Personally, I feel health care is a human right.
>>>>
>>>> Jen
>>>>
>>>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Karen Rose via nfb-talk
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 7:32 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Karen Rose <rosekm at earthlink.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fwd: {Single Payer} Disabled protesters
>>>> dragged
>> from McConnell's office! So where our blind organizations?
>>>>
>>>> I think the issue here is whether healthcare, not health insurance,
>>>> is a
>> right or a privilege. When we talk about our right to life liberty and
>> the pursuit of happiness, doesn't that include the right to visit a
>> doctor when needed and thus to remain alive? If so then we need
>> Medicare for all in the country from the time we are born to the time we
> die.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Jack Heim via nfb-talk
>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ray, you need to learn to con
>>
>>
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