[NFB-Talk] Ban the use of fireworks at Disney in daily performances.

Mon Feb 6 01:11:19 UTC 2023

Marion,
First of all, you are disputing a point I never made. I never said *ALL* blind people are disturbed by fireworks.

Second, are you seriously saying that blindness is not a factor in how 
disturbing fireworks are? I suppose I don't have scientific proof of 
that but, holy cow, it seems rather obvious to me. If you can't see the 
fireworks, it's just a lot of loud explosions. I am guessing what you 
meant to say is that blindness isn't the only factor. Maybe you have to 
have some sensitivity to loud noises as well. Certainly, there exist 
sighted people who have panic attacks triggered by fireworks.

But I don't think I have to tell the people on this list that for a 
blind person, the world is made up primarily of sound. During a 
fireworks display, the world disappears into a cloud of explosions. You 
don't think that can be disturbing?

On 2/4/23 13:52, marion.gwizdala--- via nFB-Talk wrote:
> Dear John,
>
> 	I don't think that blindness has anything to do with how disturbing
> a fireworks display is for some! I believe there are other issues that
> contribute to this issue, not blindness. Please be careful to not
> overgeneralize your experiences to those of other blind folks!
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nFB-Talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of John Heim via
> nFB-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 1:56 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: John Heim <sconnie.johnnie at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] Ban the use of fireworks at Disney in daily
> performances.
>
> It might be worth asking Disney to have a less-noise day once a month or so.
> I'll bet it would be popular with lots of people who aren't blind.
>
> I also hate fireworks. I had a panic attack when I was like 4 at a fireworks
> show. I don't think sighted people realize how disturbing a fireworks show
> is if you can't see.
>
>
> On 2/4/23 12:12, Sherry Gomes via nFB-Talk wrote:
>> The small town where I live has three major nights a year, when the sounds
> of the fireworks make me think there's a real battle going on, or could make
> me think so if I hadn't been warned in advance. My dog isn't bothered, but
> we're in the house. I'm extremely bothered by it. Even as a kid I hated loud
> bangs, like firecrackers or balloons being popped. The fireworks my dad
> would shoot off were essentially silent, and they'd do the loud ones when I
> wasn't outside with them. But, I know tons of people who love them and
> plenty of blind people who love the loud bangs and booms. I'm not sure
> silent fireworks would please the average lover of fireworks anyway. But I
> could wish for them, at least around here, three nights a year. Lol.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nFB-Talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of mike
>> michaelhingson.com via nFB-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 9:45 AM
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>> Cc: mike michaelhingson.com <mike at michaelhingson.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] Ban the use of fireworks at Disney in daily
> performances.
>> Peter,
>>
>> Actually I am not sure I agree. Noiseless fireworks become totally
> irrelevant for you, me and others who won't see them. Light shows are, I am
> sure, lovely, but at least there are some things about fireworks today that
> I can enjoy. Also, by no means all guide dogs react negatively to fireworks.
>> Enough said.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nFB-Talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Peter
>> Donahue via nFB-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 9:40 AM
>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List' <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: pmdonahue2 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] Ban the use of fireworks at Disney in daily
> performances.
>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>
>> 	I wasn't going to jump in to this discussion but wanted to let
> everyone know about an initiative to create noiseless fireworks. I heard of
> this initiative several years ago. I'm not sure what progress has been made
> to make noiseless fireworks a reality and how soon we'll see them employed
> wherever fireworks displays are held. While I know noisy fireworks are
> difficult for some folks to deal with and the effects they have on animals
> such as guide dogs until noiseless fireworks become common place we need to
> respect those who enjoy fireworks shows at places as the Disney Parks and
> plan our park going activities accordingly to minimize their effect on us.
>> Championing the wider use of noiseless fireworks is a far better
> alternative than banning them altogether.
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nFB-Talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of mike
>> michaelhingson.com via nFB-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 10:35 AM
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>> Cc: mike michaelhingson.com <mike at michaelhingson.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] Ban the use of fireworks at Disney in daily
> performances.
>> Agree with other comments. Why? It is part of the Disney celebration each
> day.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nFB-Talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Roanna
>> Bacchus via nFB-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, February 3, 2023 11:44 PM
>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus <broanna49 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [NFB-Talk] Ban the use of fireworks at Disney in daily
> performances.
>> Hey,
>>
>> I just signed the petition "Ban the use of fireworks at Disney in daily
> performances." and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.
>> Our goal is to reach 500 signatures and we need more support. You can read
> more and sign the petition here:
>> https://chng.it/H8YSZBmN5T
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Roanna
>>
>>
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