[Nfb-web] Webinars and Shortened Conventions

Peter Donahue pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net
Wed Oct 29 18:21:19 UTC 2008 

Hello Arnold and listers,

    I'm not saying we should shy away from using these tools for the reasons 
you gave. I was saying that it would be a sad day if our national 
conventions are shortened to the point that groups and divisions that held 
meetings and other activities during the convention are forced by necessity 
to resort to other means of conducting business over the Internet 
diminishing the total immersion experience. As more affiliates familiarize 
themselves with Webinar software I'm sure ways will be found to use it to 
enhance communication between chapters and members. This in my mind is okay.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnold Bailey" <arnoldbail at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Webinars and Shortened Conventions


BTW, what percentage of the membership actually can attend the conventions?
Also, why is the NFB recording sessions if not to get the information out to
the membership? Conventions are important and valuable (no doubt here); but,
is there a worry that using tools like webinars will hurt attendance at the
conventions? I believe that using these tools will help to increase the
membership.

Arnold

Arnold

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Michael Hansen <mhansen4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Very wise statement Pete
> ---
> Mike Hansen
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Arnold Bailey <arnoldbail at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Peter,
> >
> > I agree totally.
> >
> > Arnold
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Arnold and listers,
> >>
> >>    If further attempts are made to shorten the national convention 
> >> other
> >> ways and means for activities once conducted during the national
> convention
> >> will need to be explored and utilized.Affiliate and Division Webinars
> are
> >> one way to conduct business and activities that once took place during
> the
> >> national convention.  I'm all for streamlining the way national and
> state
> >> conventions are run, but not at the expense of further isolating our
> >> members
> >> from each other. Webinars should be a way we can supplement
> communications
> >> between affiliates, but not at the expense of eliminating the total
> >> immersion experience one has when they attend a state or national
> >> convention. I believe our leadership should give careful consideration
> to
> >> further shortening of the national convention in favor of using the
> >> Internet
> >> to conduct federation business. We need to use Webinars wisely to avoid
> >> entering the, :"Danger zone."
> >>
> >> Peter Donahue
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Arnold Bailey" <arnoldbail at gmail.com>
> >> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:12 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Webinar Investigation
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Mike,
> >>
> >> The strongpoint of webinar software is the tools that are provided to
> the
> >> presenter/instructor and the audience. Seminars and course instruction
> are
> >> the main applications.
> >>
> >> Skype is excellent(and free) for telephony. It provides the vehicle;
> but,
> >> not the tools. Our chapter does use telephone conferencing fairly 
> >> often.
> >>
> >> There is an underlying issue though that Peter noted. The lack of PC
> >> access/knowledge by the general membership. That is what I was
> addressing
> >> with our chapter technology mailing list. The chapter president predict
> 1-2
> >> persons would join. We are now up to 10 (in a couple weeks). I believe
> each
> >> chapter should actively promote and encourage each member to learn and
> get
> >> access to a PC and Internet. As part of that strategy we should, at the
> >> affiliate and national level, provide programs that will demonstrate 
> >> the
> >> importance the Internet is to employability and quality of life for 
> >> it's
> >> membership.
> >>
> >> As an example, I did a google search and found this entry:
> >>
> >> "AFB is pleased to offer several new training options for NIMAS 
> >> capacity
> >> building. One will be a new webinar, "Implement NIMAS in the
> Individualized
> >> Education Program (IEP) and Build New State Strategies," on October 21,
> >> 2008. We will be joined by Vicki Hershman, PATINS State Project 
> >> Director
> >> (Indiana), and Joy Zabala, Project Manager, AIM Consortium at CAST. To
> >> download the link to the webinar, visit www.afb.org/nimas.asp. Here you
> >> can
> >> also view the June 2008 webinar, "Leverage your NIMAS Resources.""
> >>
> >> Arnold
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Peter Donahue
> >> <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello Michael and listers,
> >> >
> >> >    Anything that allows one to conference via the Web and/or 
> >> > telephone
> >> > would be an excellent choice. I was talking to the president of our
> South
> >> > Dakota Affiliate about implementing a conference feature on their Web
> >> > Site.
> >> > He liked the idea, but not too many folks there use computers. I need
> to
> >> > update my Skype and will check out the Skype Conferencing tool.
> >> >
> >> > Peter Donahue
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
> >> > To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 12:23 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Webinar Investigation
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Arnold and others,
> >> >
> >> > How about some of the free online audo conferencing services that are
> >> > available out there like Skype. Reading through skype's webpage it
> >> > looks like it would let you use it software to participate totally
> >> > free in a 25 person conference call and other not able to use skype
> >> > could call in witha a cell phone or land line for the cost of the 
> >> > long
> >> > distance call.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > On 10/23/08, Arnold Bailey <arnoldbail at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > Hi all,
> >> > >
> >> > > There is a little chicken-egg situation here. I agree you need to
> have
> >> a
> >> > > need; but, if you don't know this tool is available and it's
> >> > capabilities,
> >> > > you'll never consider it. The latter is where I'm at now.
> >> > >
> >> > > Some points:
> >> > >
> >> > >   1. The streaming audio and the recordings of NFB and affiliate
> events
> >> > is
> >> > >   very effective and valuable.
> >> > >   2. We need to work first on getting each chapter member connected
> and
> >> > >   using the internet. In our chapter we have a technology mailing
> list
> >> > > whose
> >> > >   sole purpose is to get the the members connected, aware and
> >> > > comfortable
> >> > > with
> >> > >   technology. We have half our chapter on the list.
> >> > >   3. I can envision NFB divisions particularly being a prime
> candidate
> >> > for
> >> > >   instructional events. This is due to their geographically
> widespread
> >> > >   audience and the specificity of their subject.
> >> > >   4. I see affiliates who have a particular expertise and 
> >> > > experience
> in
> >> > an
> >> > >   area holding a webinar.
> >> > >   5. I believe that the webinar software and service should be
> provided
> >> > by
> >> > >   the NFB.
> >> > >   6. I have 3 powerpoint presentations that I believe would be
> >> > > excellent
> >> > >   webinar topics. In  fact, they are what got me interested in the
> >> > >   investigation.
> >> > >
> >> > > I hope others will input their thoughts on this topic.
> >> > >
> >> > > Arnold
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Peter Donahue
> >> > > <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hello Michael H. and listers,
> >> > > >
> >> > > >    I know what he's talking about. It's software, modules, or
> >> > components
> >> > > > which allow one to stream audio, video, and present diagrams to 
> >> > > > an
> >> > > > online
> >> > > > audience.Webinar components also allow presenters and the 
> >> > > > audience
> to
> >> > > > interact with each other via voice, email, or by sharing files 
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > presentations of their own.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >    Webinar software has eliminated many videoconferences that 
> >> > > > were
> >> > > > once
> >> > > > held at videoconferencing centers as they make it possible to 
> >> > > > hold
> >> > > > videoconferences from anywhere any time. The PIBE, (Professionals
> In
> >> > > > Blindness Education Division is also interested in this software
> as
> >> > > > one
> >> > > > of
> >> > > > their plans is to offer Webinars of interest to educators and
> other
> >> > > > professionals in the field of educating blind children via a
> >> > > > videoconferencing component on their Web Site. For this reason 
> >> > > > I'm
> >> > > > copying
> >> > > > her on this message.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >    I agree with you that the entity first needs to define the 
> >> > > > need
> >> for
> >> > > > this
> >> > > > solution particularly if implementing it entails a large expense.
> >> That
> >> > > > said
> >> > > > it can be of benefit to our affiliates depending on how it's 
> >> > > > used.
> >> > > > I'll
> >> > > > want
> >> > > > to follow this discussion as well as I'm always looking for new
> >> > features
> >> > > > for
> >> > > > the web sites I create for our affiliates and others. Talk to you
> >> > later.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Peter Donahue
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
> >> > > > To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> >> > > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:28 AM
> >> > > > Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Webinar Investigation
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What are you looking to do, and out of curiostiy how are you 
> >> > > > going
> to
> >> > > > use this for your chapter or affiliate?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Mike
> >> > > > ---
> >> > > > Mike Hansen
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Arnold Bailey <
> arnoldbail at gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > Hi list,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Has anyone installed or investigated installing webinar 
> >> > > > > software
> on
> >> > > > > their
> >> > > > > server?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Arnold
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