[Nfb-web] New Drupal Template

Thu Jan 8 14:19:43 UTC 2009

Hello Mike,

    Will the new template come with documentation?I'll be curious to check 
it out when it's ready.

Peter Donahue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Using Drupal on Safari

Tonight I was able to teach myself enough CSS to be able to make a
very good NFB Affiliate Template for Drupal. I have it packaged up
(like any other drupal tarball) and posted on the new NFB Webmasters
Drupal powered website. This site will go live just as soon as Dave
helps me redirect the URL.

The template (except for maybe the fonts) is the spitting image of the
Offical NFB Affilate Template sub page. I looked at creating a
template that would make use of the front page template as well but
found a few limitations that are keeping me from persuing it at this
point.

I will let you all know as soon as Dave gets the URL redirected.

Mike
---
Mike Hansen

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:53 AM, E.J. Zufelt <everett at zufelt.ca> wrote:
> Good evening,
>
> You can also get a wiki filter for Drupal that will allow you to create
> content using wiki-style markup.  I believe that the Pear Wiki Filter is 
> one
> of the more popular Drupal wiki filters.
>
> HTH,
> Everett
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Using Drupal on Safari
>
>
>> Peter,
>>
>> As I recall most of those problems were do to the WYSIWYG editor built
>> into X Catalyst. Becuase Drupal doesn't use a WYSWYG editor by default
>> formating is typically done using HTML and CSS tags. So it is entirely
>> accessible.
>>
>> Mike
>> ---
>> Mike Hansen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Mike H. and listers,
>>>
>>>   I knew they were both content management systems, but was wondering if
>>> Drupal has more keyboard shortcuts than X Catalyst and if the same
>>> problem
>>> we had with X Catalyst happens in Drupal. Recall that we tried selecting
>>> text for formatting. If we moved off of the selected text to activate 
>>> the
>>> X
>>> Catalyst commands for formatting text the text would be deselected and 
>>> we
>>> could not do the formatting. Some of us also had trouble creating links
>>> with
>>> X Catalyst as well. If you tried creating a link when you viewed your
>>> document the HTML was displayed instead of the highlighted text to alert
>>> the
>>> visitor that that text was a hyper link. I'm wondering how this is
>>> handled
>>> in Drupal and if this is a problem there too, or can one activate
>>> keystrokes
>>> in order to keep the text selected for formatting, insertion of
>>> hyperlinks,
>>> creating forns, etc. That's what I was getting at with my question.
>>> Thanks
>>> for the great information.
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:05 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Using Drupal on Safari
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> Good question. I could answer it by asking whats the difference
>>> between a Packmate and a Braille Note? Drupal and X Catalyst are both
>>> Content Management Systems (CMS). So for the benefit of others, a
>>> Content Management System is a web based application tht runs on your
>>> webserver. At a minimum it provides a method of authentiation (to be
>>> able to log in and out) and a method to create web content via a
>>> system of web forms. This is ment to make it easier for non HTML savy
>>> people be able to maintain a website. It also allows you to update
>>> content no mater where you are as long as you have web access.
>>>
>>> Many Content Management Systems go far beyond this though by allow you
>>> to create different types of content like (polls, forums and, user
>>> provided comments). Many CMS's also provide a mechanism for other
>>> programmers to right add-on modules to further enhance the features
>>> available in the CMS. For instance on the NFB of Nebraska website I am
>>> working on I have modules installed to help with backups, allow for
>>> online sales and, host a picture gallery.
>>>
>>> Now Peter specificly the differences I have found between Drupal and X
>>> Catalyst.
>>>
>>> 1. ITS FREE. Now this obviously means that the price is right, but in
>>> this case it also means that there is a huge user base and development
>>> community.
>>>
>>> 2. Since drupal has such a large development community there is a huge
>>> amount of add-on modules available for it.
>>>
>>> 3. Now I use drupal vissually but I know from reading on the website
>>> there is a consious effort to keep the core of drupal accessible to
>>> the blind. This consious through on the developer part was on of the
>>> key reasons I choose to persue it. alot of drupals competitors are
>>> mouse over menu driven and I imagine potentially very difficult to
>>> navigate with a screen reader. Drupal is navigated purely by hyper
>>> links.
>>>
>>> 4. If you have gotten a chance to try X Catalyst you should recall the
>>> What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) editor. Drupal can have one of
>>> these, if you load the right add-on module, but by default it relys on
>>> the CSS of the site and the content developer to know some basic html,
>>> so you can format your content using HTML or PHP as you type it in.
>>>
>>> 5. Conceptuall X Catalyst had 2 sides to it a development side and a
>>> published side. Drupal implements this feature a little differently.
>>> There isn't 2 seperate interfaces you just have to conciiously publish
>>> content. Each peice of content has a published atribute. If you
>>> publish something then the world can see it, but only a content
>>> developer will see it untel it is published.
>>>
>>> Let me know if I didn't hit on something you were wondering about or
>>> if you have further questions.
>>>
>>> I will say I was a little intimidated by drupal when i first installed
>>> it. To me it was a completely new way to look at website development.
>>> Until I got use to how it works I found myself getting frustrated
>>> because I knew how to do something the old way but not necessarily in
>>> drupal. I am happy to say though that I am now very comfortable with
>>> drupal.
>>>
>>> Unlike some of you I would not call myself a developer but instead a
>>> integrator. I am good at taking other peoples work (programs) and
>>> making them work together. Working with Drupal has forced me to begin
>>> to learn PHP and CSS. This has been a struggle but I don't regret it.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> ---
>>> Mike Hansen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Michael,
>>>>
>>>>   Can you explain how Drupal differs from X Catalyst?
>>>>
>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:18 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Using Drupal on Safari
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Couple notes on Drupal,
>>>>
>>>> 1. I am about ready to cut the nfb webmasters site over to a drupal
>>>> version. I am working out some of the last details but it will allow
>>>> us a password protected site (one of the original requests by Gary). I
>>>> am also looking at allowing members to contribute content that way we
>>>> have a place besides email to share ideas.
>>>>
>>>> 2. I have a Drupal NFB Affiliate template that I have worked up over
>>>> the last few days. It is roughly the same layout as the Offical NFB
>>>> Affiliate templates and uses the same color sceme but still needs some
>>>> work to be exactly the same. If any one is interested in it let me
>>>> know.
>>>>
>>>> 3. If there is interest I would be happy to setup a Drupal Sandbox
>>>> members could experiment with.
>>>>
>>>> Oh and by the way drupal is awesome, I have to thank Atty for turning
>>>> me on to it.
>>>> ---
>>>> Mike Hansen
>>>> NFB of Nebraska
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 9:57 AM, The Crowd <the_crowd at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Some hosting companies are still not up to 6.8 though, unfortunately.
>>>>>
>>>>> Atty
>>>>>
>>>>> Life is short ...forgive quickly, kiss slowly, love truly,  laugh
>>>>> uncontrollably... and never regret anything that made you smile
>>>>>
>>>>> "Qui docet, discit."
>>>>> "He who teaches, learns"
>>>>>
>>>>> I have learned that people will forget what you said,
>>>>> people will forget what you did,
>>>>> but people will never forget how you made them feel.
>>>>> Maya Angelou
>>>>>
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