[Nfb-web] New Drupal Template

Fri Jan 9 21:06:19 UTC 2009

They are available for download when ever you have time.

Mike
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Mike Hansen

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hello Michael H. and listers,
>
>    Once it's available I'll check it out.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] New Drupal Template
>
>
> Peter,
>
> Tonight I sat down and typed up a fairly detailed readme.txt for both
> the drupal 5.x and 6.x version of the template. Afer you get your
> hands on it you will have to let me know if there is anything else I
> should add.
>
> Mike
> ---
> Mike Hansen
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Michael Hansen <mhansen4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> You are starting to sound like a broken record. However thankyou for
>> the reminder. I will include a readme.txt file in the tarball that
>> explains how to configure the theme once it is installed. As for
>> installing the theme, it installs just like any onther theme in drupal
>> and there is lot so of documentation out there for that. If you need
>> me to be more specific iwht the theme install though let me know.
>>
>> Mike
>> ---
>> Mike Hansen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>> Hello Mike,
>>>
>>>    Will the new template come with documentation?I'll be curious to check
>>> it out when it's ready.
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:10 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Using Drupal on Safari
>>>
>>>
>>> Tonight I was able to teach myself enough CSS to be able to make a
>>> very good NFB Affiliate Template for Drupal. I have it packaged up
>>> (like any other drupal tarball) and posted on the new NFB Webmasters
>>> Drupal powered website. This site will go live just as soon as Dave
>>> helps me redirect the URL.
>>>
>>> The template (except for maybe the fonts) is the spitting image of the
>>> Offical NFB Affilate Template sub page. I looked at creating a
>>> template that would make use of the front page template as well but
>>> found a few limitations that are keeping me from persuing it at this
>>> point.
>>>
>>> I will let you all know as soon as Dave gets the URL redirected.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> ---
>>> Mike Hansen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:53 AM, E.J. Zufelt <everett at zufelt.ca> wrote:
>>>> Good evening,
>>>>
>>>> You can also get a wiki filter for Drupal that will allow you to create
>>>> content using wiki-style markup.  I believe that the Pear Wiki Filter is
>>>> one
>>>> of the more popular Drupal wiki filters.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Everett
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:23 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Using Drupal on Safari
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> As I recall most of those problems were do to the WYSIWYG editor built
>>>>> into X Catalyst. Becuase Drupal doesn't use a WYSWYG editor by default
>>>>> formating is typically done using HTML and CSS tags. So it is entirely
>>>>> accessible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Mike Hansen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Peter Donahue
>>>>> <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Mike H. and listers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I knew they were both content management systems, but was wondering
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> Drupal has more keyboard shortcuts than X Catalyst and if the same
>>>>>> problem
>>>>>> we had with X Catalyst happens in Drupal. Recall that we tried
>>>>>> selecting
>>>>>> text for formatting. If we moved off of the selected text to activate
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> X
>>>>>> Catalyst commands for formatting text the text would be deselected and
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> could not do the formatting. Some of us also had trouble creating
>>>>>> links
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> X Catalyst as well. If you tried creating a link when you viewed your
>>>>>> document the HTML was displayed instead of the highlighted text to
>>>>>> alert
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> visitor that that text was a hyper link. I'm wondering how this is
>>>>>> handled
>>>>>> in Drupal and if this is a problem there too, or can one activate
>>>>>> keystrokes
>>>>>> in order to keep the text selected for formatting, insertion of
>>>>>> hyperlinks,
>>>>>> creating forns, etc. That's what I was getting at with my question.
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> for the great information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:05 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Using Drupal on Safari
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good question. I could answer it by asking whats the difference
>>>>>> between a Packmate and a Braille Note? Drupal and X Catalyst are both
>>>>>> Content Management Systems (CMS). So for the benefit of others, a
>>>>>> Content Management System is a web based application tht runs on your
>>>>>> webserver. At a minimum it provides a method of authentiation (to be
>>>>>> able to log in and out) and a method to create web content via a
>>>>>> system of web forms. This is ment to make it easier for non HTML savy
>>>>>> people be able to maintain a website. It also allows you to update
>>>>>> content no mater where you are as long as you have web access.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many Content Management Systems go far beyond this though by allow you
>>>>>> to create different types of content like (polls, forums and, user
>>>>>> provided comments). Many CMS's also provide a mechanism for other
>>>>>> programmers to right add-on modules to further enhance the features
>>>>>> available in the CMS. For instance on the NFB of Nebraska website I am
>>>>>> working on I have modules installed to help with backups, allow for
>>>>>> online sales and, host a picture gallery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now Peter specificly the differences I have found between Drupal and X
>>>>>> Catalyst.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. ITS FREE. Now this obviously means that the price is right, but in
>>>>>> this case it also means that there is a huge user base and development
>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Since drupal has such a large development community there is a huge
>>>>>> amount of add-on modules available for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Now I use drupal vissually but I know from reading on the website
>>>>>> there is a consious effort to keep the core of drupal accessible to
>>>>>> the blind. This consious through on the developer part was on of the
>>>>>> key reasons I choose to persue it. alot of drupals competitors are
>>>>>> mouse over menu driven and I imagine potentially very difficult to
>>>>>> navigate with a screen reader. Drupal is navigated purely by hyper
>>>>>> links.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. If you have gotten a chance to try X Catalyst you should recall the
>>>>>> What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) editor. Drupal can have one of
>>>>>> these, if you load the right add-on module, but by default it relys on
>>>>>> the CSS of the site and the content developer to know some basic html,
>>>>>> so you can format your content using HTML or PHP as you type it in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. Conceptuall X Catalyst had 2 sides to it a development side and a
>>>>>> published side. Drupal implements this feature a little differently.
>>>>>> There isn't 2 seperate interfaces you just have to conciiously publish
>>>>>> content. Each peice of content has a published atribute. If you
>>>>>> publish something then the world can see it, but only a content
>>>>>> developer will see it untel it is published.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know if I didn't hit on something you were wondering about or
>>>>>> if you have further questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will say I was a little intimidated by drupal when i first installed
>>>>>> it. To me it was a completely new way to look at website development.
>>>>>> Until I got use to how it works I found myself getting frustrated
>>>>>> because I knew how to do something the old way but not necessarily in
>>>>>> drupal. I am happy to say though that I am now very comfortable with
>>>>>> drupal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unlike some of you I would not call myself a developer but instead a
>>>>>> integrator. I am good at taking other peoples work (programs) and
>>>>>> making them work together. Working with Drupal has forced me to begin
>>>>>> to learn PHP and CSS. This has been a struggle but I don't regret it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Mike Hansen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Peter Donahue
>>>>>> <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Michael,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Can you explain how Drupal differs from X Catalyst?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:18 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Using Drupal on Safari
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Couple notes on Drupal,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. I am about ready to cut the nfb webmasters site over to a drupal
>>>>>>> version. I am working out some of the last details but it will allow
>>>>>>> us a password protected site (one of the original requests by Gary).
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am also looking at allowing members to contribute content that way we
>>>>>>> have a place besides email to share ideas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. I have a Drupal NFB Affiliate template that I have worked up over
>>>>>>> the last few days. It is roughly the same layout as the Offical NFB
>>>>>>> Affiliate templates and uses the same color sceme but still needs
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> work to be exactly the same. If any one is interested in it let me
>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. If there is interest I would be happy to setup a Drupal Sandbox
>>>>>>> members could experiment with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh and by the way drupal is awesome, I have to thank Atty for turning
>>>>>>> me on to it.
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Mike Hansen
>>>>>>> NFB of Nebraska
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 9:57 AM, The Crowd <the_crowd at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some hosting companies are still not up to 6.8 though,
>>>>>>>> unfortunately.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Atty
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Life is short ...forgive quickly, kiss slowly, love truly,  laugh
>>>>>>>> uncontrollably... and never regret anything that made you smile
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Qui docet, discit."
>>>>>>>> "He who teaches, learns"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have learned that people will forget what you said,
>>>>>>>> people will forget what you did,
>>>>>>>> but people will never forget how you made them feel.
>>>>>>>> Maya Angelou
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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