[Nfb-web] Non X Catalyst Hosting on NFB Server

Tue Mar 24 10:42:14 UTC 2009

The problems lately have been with the line connecting to the 
internet.  We replaced the server about 6 months ago with one with 
dual swappable power supplies and drives.  One problem with moving 
the server (or changing it to a commercial site,) would be that a 
bunch of sites share an IP address, and if everyone had to change, it 
would cause lots of problems.

Dave

At 09:46 PM 3/23/2009, you wrote:
>Good evening,
>
>Not being a member of NFB or knowing anything about the current server
>specifications / traffic load I wonder what the cost of moving this
>over to a commercially hosted server would be if shared across all
>parties who make use of the resource?  I would expect that leasing a
>reliable server from a commercial provider would only have a nominal
>cost to each affiliate who wishes to share the cost.
>
>Just a thought,
>Everett
>
>
>On 23-Mar-09, at 4:52 PM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>
>>Hello Michael and listers,
>>
>>         It's more a question of reliability than features. There has
>>been a rash of NFB Net outages since the beginning of the year and my
>>frustration and desire to do the best job I can for the affiliates
>>whose
>>sites I manage continues to heighten. My patience with this
>>situation is
>>beginning to wear thin; particularly when you consider that I manage
>>about 12 affiliate sites hosted on NFB Net and have multiple requests
>>from these affiliates to make changes to pages on their Web sites. I
>>edit their pages and attempt to post them only to discover that NFB
>>Net
>>is down.
>>
>>         One affiliate has a state convention coming up this weekend and
>>I need to post information related to their convention including the
>>streaming links. I'm preparing the pages, but God only knows when I'll
>>be able to upload them due to these outages. Our Writers' Division has
>>asked me to post content to their site. I have it ready to go, but
>>can't
>>upload it because NFB Net is down.
>>
>>                 We all appreciate what NFB Net offers in the way of Web
>>space and other resources. However as NFB Net grows the need to
>>address
>>matters like these outages must be delt with. If this organization can
>>find $20,000,000 to build the Jernigan Institute we ought to be able
>>to
>>find the funding to address this issue. No more crying poverty please.
>>If these outages continue to occur perhaps this topic should be one
>>for
>>discussion at this summer's Webmasters meeting. I know Dave is doing
>>all
>>he can on his end. Perhaps we all need to put our heads together to
>>find
>>a solution to address this matter, one that is effective and that
>>won't
>>be costly to implement. Yes it's important to be grateful for what we
>>have, but there comes a point where simply being grateful isn't
>>enough.
>>
>>I've told some individuals privately that to me our Web sites are
>>those
>>of Fortune 500 Companies; not just those of a non-profit
>>organization. I
>>approach each project I've done for the NFb and others as if it were
>>for
>>a Fortune 500 Company. As such companies do all they can to prevent
>>their Web sites from being down and unavailable to the public. One
>>need
>>not have the big bucks of a Fortune 500 company to insure that their
>>organization's Web site will have 99.9999999%up-time. Perhaps this
>>topic
>>needs more discussion, myths debunked, and potential solutions
>>explored.
>>As a member of our Webmasters Committee I'm willing to do whatever
>>research is needed to find a remedy for these outages.
>>
>>         And what about the philosophical end of things? I would be
>>extremely embarrassed as an affiliate president to refer members and
>>potential members and supporters to visit a Web site not knowing if
>>it's
>>going to be available or not. That doesn't bode well for us and our
>>belief that the blind can succeed as computer and Web professionals.
>>
>>         I noticed that  the NFB server in Baltimore is hardly down. I
>>only recall one instance when the NFB National sites were down and
>>that
>>was for a few days last year. It was this that got me to wonder if
>>non X
>>Catalyst hosting could be made available on the NFB server for
>>affiliates that prefer not to use X Catalyst allowing them to use
>>whatever design methodologies they chose for building their Web sites.
>>
>>         Sorry for the rant. I'm trying to fulfill the requests turned in
>>to me by affiliates for their Web sites that need servicing. Here's
>>hoping we'll see the light at the end of the tunnel soon. All the best
>>for a great week.
>>
>>A very frustrated Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>On
>>Behalf Of Michael Hansen
>>Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:50 PM
>>To: NFB Webmaster's List
>>Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Non X Catalyst Hosting on NFB Server
>>
>>
>>Peter,
>>
>>The only reason why a site would have been hosted on the nfb.org
>>server
>>instead of the nfbnet.org server was because that is were the x
>>Catalyst
>>software was installed. What features or functionality are you looking
>>for that is not available on the nfbnet.org server?
>>
>>Mike
>>---
>>Mike Hansen
>>NFB of Nebraska
>>
>>
>>On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net >
>>wrote:
>>>Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>    During last year's webmasters workshop the plan offered by our
>>>national office for affiliates wishing to host their Web sites via X
>>>Catalyst was explained. Has a non X Catalyst hosting plan for
>>>affiliates wanting to host their sites on the NFB Server been
>>>considered, and what would be the cost? I'm envisioning something
>>>similar to what is now offered on NFB Net, but the affiliate sites
>>>would be hosted on the NFB Server instead of NFB Net. Just thought I
>>>would ask.
>>>
>>>Peter Donahue
>>>
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