[Nfb-web] Non X Catalyst Hosting on NFB Server

Ruth Anne Wheeler webmaster at nfbofillinois.org
Tue Mar 24 11:19:43 UTC 2009


Bryan,
My response was to Peter, not to you.   
Ruth Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 11:07 PM
To: NFB Webmaster's List
Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Non X Catalyst Hosting on NFB Server

hi,

my question wasn't asked to irk people or push them to get on their soapbox.
i asked where/what redundancy was in place and David answered the question.

Bryan Schulz
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ruth Anne Wheeler" <webmaster at nfbofillinois.org>
To: "'NFB Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Non X Catalyst Hosting on NFB Server


> Chiming in here from Chicago.....
>
> The Illinois affiliate made a decision quite a few years back now that to
> them it was worth the investment of a couple hundred dollars a year to
> utilize an outside hosting company, because the company provided an uptime
> guarantee at 99.xx%. Illinois also chose that course in order to have an
> independent site, also. (we do utilize NFBnet for our listserves)  Is that
> in the realm of every affiliate?  Probably not.  But we make a point of
> utilizing our giftcard fundraiser (among other projects we have) to ensure
> we have the funds to pay for that independent hosting.
>
> That said, what is done with NFBnet.org is incredible.  The fact it is
> provided free of charge is beyond incredible - it is a priceless gift to 
> all
> of the NFB.  If there is a line problem with Qwest, that is beyond David's
> control, and solely the responsibility of Qwest.  If David needs to go and
> buy a new DSL modem once every few years, that is a price of business. 
> But
> everything that David Andrews has done has been timely and certainly to
> everyone's best interest.
>
> We cannot look the gift horse in the mouth.  If we are being given a gift,
> we use it and work with that gift to the best of our ability.  It is 
> called
> stewardship.  That is the course of action of any responsible non-profit
> organization.
>
> Stepping off my soapbox,
> Ruth Anne
> Ruth Anne Wheeler
> Webmaster
> NFB of Illinois
> www.nfbofillinois.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Gary Wunder
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:37 PM
> To: NFB Webmaster's List
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Non X Catalyst Hosting on NFB Server
>
> Pete, As one  who is keenly interested in our web presence but also serves
> on the national board of directors, I have to take issue with your 
> statement
> that we should not use poverty as an excuse for not upgrading our site. 
> The
> investments we make in the NFB are, by most standards, conservative, and 
> yet
> the drop that we have seen in the economy means that this year we will 
> have
> millions of dollars less to spend nationally than we have in the past. You
> have every right if you wish to tell us how we should spend our money, but
> you have every obligation as well to help us raise it. You do a 
> spectacular
> job, and I have no doubt that you're feeling tremendous pressure as a
> result, but do not let yourself be placed in the position where you feel
> responsible for something which is beyond your control. Missouri does not
> hold you responsible, and neither does anyone else who understands the
> complexity of technology.
>
> None of us, as divisions or affiliates, is obligated in the least to use 
> NFB
> Net. At least in Missouri we use it because it is a bargain, because until
> recently it has been extremely reliable, and because the volunteers who 
> give
> so much of their time to host and moderate are just spectacular. I think
> that you have every right to rant if you must, but you also do have an
> obligation to be grateful for what is given, and unless you and I and a 
> few
> other people can figure out a way to provide better funding for NFB Net,
> we're going to have to deal with the situation where we have one modem, 
> one
> server, and one small and dedicated volunteer staff.
>
> Gary
>
> P.S. I will gladly withdraw the preceding statement if somebody wants to
> offer us $1 million so that we may continue to grant free web service to 
> our
> affiliates.
>
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