[Nfb-web] introduction

[Peter Donahue]

Hello Peter and listers,

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Peter Donahue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] introduction


Chris,


    Thanks for the speedy welcome on this e-mail list. What would be
better than an e-mail list is a forum. Uh, got any tips on learning
all of the languages that you know being blind? Mine are that you have
to be extremely patient being blind than a normal programmer. There
are things that we can do though to be able to make the page more
visual just takes more time with learning more code. I've currently
got like three e-books from O'Reilly publishing and plan to wait for
the html 5 and css 2.1 books next ear. My other thing is my adobe
reader acts up with it's big document and freezes if I leave the page.
Got any ideas on how to fix that specific problem?
    Well, thanks for ll of the information man. Sorry that your bitter
about yu know all of that stuff you have to go into as a programmer.
Maybe a database administrator is better? My friend Andy works in
Washington D.C as a defense database admin and seems to be getting
along quite well. Moreover, I wish to eventually make my game into a
software and use it as a plugin in your browser. Looking for assistant
webmasters and volunteers too!

On 10/23/09, Chris Westbrook <westbchris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Welcome, Peter.  I don't post much to this list, I don't actually do any 
> NFB
> work at the moment, but I am a web developer at an ad agency.  I think
> design work is a challenge all web developers face, blind or sighted, but 
> I
> think blindness creates even more challenges in this area.  It is 
> extremely
> hard for a blind person to understand where things are laid out on the
> screen and what size certain things should be in relation to other things 
> on
> the page because, well, we can't see the screen.  Yes, we can go to a
> sighted person and get feedback and attempt to adjust our pages to match
> their feedback, but it is my experience that this takes a lot longer than
> having a sighted person do the markup and look at it instantly.  It has 
> been
> decided at my department by new management to remove me from design work 
> as
> much as possible and have me focus on back end and JavaScript programming
> and be given templates to use with the necessary fields and tables for the
> project already included.  Frankly, I hate design work.  I think most of 
> you
> develop for a blindness only or primarily blind clientele, so you are not
> aware of how hard it is to design for the sighted.  I'm not even talking
> about flash, etc., I'm talking about pure html and css.  I believe this is
> why the national office has made templates for all affiliates to use, and 
> I
> would be willing to bet they were made by sighted people.  As an aside, I
> hope your learning of JavaScript includes jquery, which has taken the
> JavaScript world by storm.  Microsoft is even including it in their latest
> asp.net framework.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> To: <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:18 AM
> Subject: [Nfb-web] introduction
>
>
> To NFB webmasters,
>
>
>     My name is Peter, who is a amateur web programming working on my
> new site found below at my signature. Currently working on learning
> java script just got to look back over hyper text markup language and
> cascading style sheets as I’ve been busy in classes too. If you have
> any advice about your first viewing of my site that would be
> appreciated. What are some common challenges that all of you as blind
> website programmers face? My biggest challenge is too convey visual
> affects in the right size and shape in that specific area to be
> visually appealing to users on all platforms using different specs
> with different sproviders and hardware/software functionality. My
> project is to one day to make a free persistant browser based game for
> the blind and sighted to play for free! If you have any resources you
> can give me in any helfpful way they will all be appreciated. Thanks
> for all of the help to  this novice.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> --
> Peter
> Webmaster
> http://www.darkstruggle.com
> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
> alternative e-mail
> sunspot005 at gmail.com
>
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Peter
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