[Nfb-web] introduction

Fri Oct 23 17:45:28 UTC 2009

actually I was refring to the place of bookshare.rog. It even states
in several parts of the site that it needs a player. To play a rfbd
player you would have to have paid for that service, so i negates your
point. Hoever, I search for bookshare books with some issues because I
find it and find a way to get the zipped files right? Well, I go into
every single file extension with no success and that isn't th last of
them either as far as issues just the tip of my personal iceberg

On 10/23/09, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
>     I believe you're referring to RFB&D. They require the use of a special
> download manager to download their audio books. Contact their tech support
> for assistance with your trouble. Bookshare.org no longer requires the use
> of such a program to access their books. All the best.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] introduction
>
>
> Peter,
>
>
>     It's Peter that oiginally posted about advice on learning
> programming. I can't get my free Bookshare account to work right with
> the player that I downloaded to read the documents. I've almost tried
> everything with that stupid player. I thought originally you didn't
> need a player to download the files?
>
> On 10/23/09, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Hello Peter and listers,
>>
>>     Are you a member of bookshare.org?
>>
>> They have lots of books on Web design including many titles covering
>> various
>> Web programming languages and techniques. For further information visit:
>> http://www.bookshare.org
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] introduction
>>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>>
>>     Thanks for the speedy welcome on this e-mail list. What would be
>> better than an e-mail list is a forum. Uh, got any tips on learning
>> all of the languages that you know being blind? Mine are that you have
>> to be extremely patient being blind than a normal programmer. There
>> are things that we can do though to be able to make the page more
>> visual just takes more time with learning more code. I've currently
>> got like three e-books from O'Reilly publishing and plan to wait for
>> the html 5 and css 2.1 books next ear. My other thing is my adobe
>> reader acts up with it's big document and freezes if I leave the page.
>> Got any ideas on how to fix that specific problem?
>>     Well, thanks for ll of the information man. Sorry that your bitter
>> about yu know all of that stuff you have to go into as a programmer.
>> Maybe a database administrator is better? My friend Andy works in
>> Washington D.C as a defense database admin and seems to be getting
>> along quite well. Moreover, I wish to eventually make my game into a
>> software and use it as a plugin in your browser. Looking for assistant
>> webmasters and volunteers too!
>>
>> On 10/23/09, Chris Westbrook <westbchris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Welcome, Peter.  I don't post much to this list, I don't actually do any
>>> NFB
>>> work at the moment, but I am a web developer at an ad agency.  I think
>>> design work is a challenge all web developers face, blind or sighted, but
>>> I
>>> think blindness creates even more challenges in this area.  It is
>>> extremely
>>> hard for a blind person to understand where things are laid out on the
>>> screen and what size certain things should be in relation to other things
>>> on
>>> the page because, well, we can't see the screen.  Yes, we can go to a
>>> sighted person and get feedback and attempt to adjust our pages to match
>>> their feedback, but it is my experience that this takes a lot longer than
>>> having a sighted person do the markup and look at it instantly.  It has
>>> been
>>> decided at my department by new management to remove me from design work
>>> as
>>> much as possible and have me focus on back end and JavaScript programming
>>> and be given templates to use with the necessary fields and tables for
>>> the
>>> project already included.  Frankly, I hate design work.  I think most of
>>> you
>>> develop for a blindness only or primarily blind clientele, so you are not
>>> aware of how hard it is to design for the sighted.  I'm not even talking
>>> about flash, etc., I'm talking about pure html and css.  I believe this
>>> is
>>> why the national office has made templates for all affiliates to use, and
>>> I
>>> would be willing to bet they were made by sighted people.  As an aside, I
>>> hope your learning of JavaScript includes jquery, which has taken the
>>> JavaScript world by storm.  Microsoft is even including it in their
>>> latest
>>> asp.net framework.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>>> To: <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:18 AM
>>> Subject: [Nfb-web] introduction
>>>
>>>
>>> To NFB webmasters,
>>>
>>>
>>>     My name is Peter, who is a amateur web programming working on my
>>> new site found below at my signature. Currently working on learning
>>> java script just got to look back over hyper text markup language and
>>> cascading style sheets as I’ve been busy in classes too. If you have
>>> any advice about your first viewing of my site that would be
>>> appreciated. What are some common challenges that all of you as blind
>>> website programmers face? My biggest challenge is too convey visual
>>> affects in the right size and shape in that specific area to be
>>> visually appealing to users on all platforms using different specs
>>> with different sproviders and hardware/software functionality. My
>>> project is to one day to make a free persistant browser based game for
>>> the blind and sighted to play for free! If you have any resources you
>>> can give me in any helfpful way they will all be appreciated. Thanks
>>> for all of the help to  this novice.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter
>>> Webmaster
>>> http://www.darkstruggle.com
>>> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
>>> alternative e-mail
>>> sunspot005 at gmail.com
>>>
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