[Nfb-web] Captcha challenge?

[Gary Wunder]

Hello Pete. I think you have a good idea, and in fact we've been working on
a blind captcha challenge for about two years now. One of the people
involved in that is Doctor Jonathan Lazar who is about as fine an advocate
as you will ever find for accessibility for the blind. The problem is not so
much to find solutions which will serve to figure out who is a human and who
is a machine, but to get those solutions implemented by companies which
already have some investment in their own captcha technology.

If you would like to write to Doctor Lazar, I think you will find some of
his captcha idea is quite intriguing.

Warmly,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 5:16 PM
To: NFB Webmaster's List
Subject: [Nfb-web] Captcha challenge?

Hello everyone,

    A while ago we returned from our monthly Chapter Meeting. Many of our
members tried casting votes for the Pepsi Challenge and were unsuccessful. 
Some members got frustrated with the blasted Captcha while others don't have
texting capabilities and didn't want to fool with the Web site. In fact our
president didn't even push our members to vote. The only mention of this
project came when the August Presidential Release was played. Due to the
mood of the membership concerning the Pepsi Challenge. This was a subject
best left alone particularly due to our having  many guests at this month's
meeting some of witch became members.

    It has been said that a goal of the Blind Driver Challenge is to help
raise expectations among the public and the blind themselves. It's having
this effect here. We find it disheartening that we can develop the
technology to enable a blind person to drive a car independently but haven't
done the same so captcha information can be made available to screen readers
while hiding it from spam bots. Something is very wrong with this picture! 
This is of particular concern to those with a hearing loss of any degree. 
Will we see deaf-blind persons driving their own car before they're able to
deal with captchas without the assistance of a sighted person or a third
party solution? If any more captcha solving solutions are to be developed
they need to take the needs of the hearing impaired in mind. Why not issue a
"Captcha Challenge" to hopefully encourage folks to come up with such a
solution. Okay I'm done with this rant.

Peter Donahue



     ----- Original Message -----
From: "Milton Ota" <mota at hawaii.rr.com>
To: "'NFB Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] CAPTCHA & Twitter?


Sign up for an account with Solona.net at:

http://solona.net

There you will find a real human that will help you solve the CAPTCHA.

Personally I found using Mozilla firefox with Webvisum much easier to use.



-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Everett Gavel
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:50 AM
To: NFB Webmaster's List
Subject: [Nfb-web] CAPTCHA & Twitter?

Hi All,

In subscribing-to and signing-up for various things on
the Internet over the years, I usually struggle a bit
using Zoomtext and/or the audio option when there is
one, with Captcha, and am able to subscribe.  Been
suffering through this "strictly visual" Captcha BS for
years, but getting it done.

But now there's Twitter.

I've just tried for about the 6th time in a week, to
subscribe to Twitter, and the damnable thing keeps
acting like I'm not getting it right, though I'm pretty
certain I have been.  I just don't get it.  The audio
is not that hard to understand, and the graphics can
usually be deciphered.  But every time with Twitter,
every time -- and I've only been unsure of exactly what
it might seem to be 2 out of the 6 times now -- it
tells me to try again.

Anyone got any ways to get around this Captcha BS,
without needing to bring in a person who is sighted?  I
mean, I shouldn't HAVE to ask for help if I don't want
to.  On top of it all, there doesn't even seem to be a
link to e-mail Twitter or the Captcha 'service' and get
help.

Seems slightly discriminatory to me, though more likely
it's just the typical ignorance.

I use IE, not Firefox or other browsers.  I heard of
one Captcha-workaround service that only works with
Firefox browsers unfortunately.  Anyone got any other
ideas?  Thanks in advance for any help.


Strive On!
Everett
everett at everettgavel.com



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