[Nfb-web] Accessible Captcha
E.J. Zufelt
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Wed Nov 9 17:09:42 UTC 2011
Hi Peter,
I completely understand that user feedback is an important consideration in a SPAM prevention decision.
That being said, a SPAM prevention decision that requires any time / effort on the part of the site administration does not scale.
Thanks,
Everett Zufelt
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On 2011-11-09, at 11:36 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
> Hello Everet and everyone,
>
> I go by visitor complaints not page views.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "E.J. Zufelt" <lists at zufelt.ca>
> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Accessible Captcha
>
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> Can you please tell us how many page views / month you are handling? If you
> do not have the exact numbers available, can you please state if it greater
> than, or less than, 1 million?
>
> Thanks,
> Everett Zufelt
> http://zufelt.ca
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> On 2011-11-09, at 9:35 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>
>> Hello Mike and everyone,
>>
>> We don't subject anyone to CAPTCHAS of any kind and don't have a spam
>> issue. The back-end solution we're using on Web sites on our VPS is very
>> effective and should be explored as an alternative to CAPTCHAS.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Hansen" <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 6:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Accessible Captcha
>>
>>
>> I mentioned that I am using a drupal module to put a captcha on the
>> Nebraska site. The module name is "Captcha" and "Captcha Pack". With
>> these installed you are able to do several different types of
>> accessible captchas. The one I have chosen to use is a fill n the
>> blank. It gives you a word with one or two missing letters that you
>> have to supply. The word is given to you in straight text so your
>> screen reader can read it without any problem. The only issue I have
>> run into so far is that it is a little different of an approach to
>> captchas therefore users are a bit confused at first having never seen
>> a captcha like that. It has done the trick for me and stopped all the
>> spam I was getting.
>>
>> Mike
>> ---
>> Mike Hansen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> so are you using the honey pot deal?
>>>
>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell Shandrow"
>>> <darrell.shandrow at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Accessible Captcha
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Bryan,
>>>>
>>>> As is already being discussed, there are some backend forms of
>>>> protection
>>>> that do not require CAPTCHA or anything else that interacts with the
>>>> user.
>>>>
>>>> When that's not possible, techniques like manual comment moderation
>>>> could
>>>> be used.
>>>>
>>>> Ultimately, since we're NFB, we should never do anything that leaves out
>>>> anyone who is blind or deaf-blind.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/8/2011 9:31 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> so what's your solution?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell Shandrow"
>>>>> <darrell.shandrow at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 9:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Accessible Captcha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Gary, Michael and all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am totally against the use of any CAPTCHA that's not purely
>>>>>> text-based on any blindness-specific website, including NFB sites.
>>>>>> Even audio CAPTCHAs exclude deaf-blind people, so they're totally
>>>>>> unworkable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Darrell
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/8/2011 7:52 PM, Gary H. Ray wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The one the vender currently has an audio option, but with JAWS
>>>>>>> talking in
>>>>>>> the background, it gets tough to make it go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary Ray
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Michael Baldwin
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:26 PM
>>>>>>> To: 'NFB Webmaster's List'
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Accessible Captcha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Personally I think captchas are over used, but, that isn't' the
>>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>>> Look at recaptcha from Google. it has an option for an audio captcha.
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Gary H. Ray
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 17:50
>>>>>>> To: 'NFB Webmaster's List'
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Accessible Captcha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I am looking for is something to suggest to a vender. I bitched
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> a hard captcha and they said it was "industry standard," but they
>>>>>>> also said
>>>>>>> they were willing to look at any I suggest so I need one to suggest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is for a web-based database system for my Friends of the NC
>>>>>>> Library for
>>>>>>> the Blind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanx!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary Ray, NC
>>>>>>> 828 505 0299
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Michael Hansen
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:59 PM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Webmaster's List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Accessible Captcha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have an accessible captcha installed for the Nebraska website and
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> NFB-Webmasters website but they are both Drupal Modules. I am
>>>>>>> guessing that
>>>>>>> you want something that will work with Wordpress.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Mike Hansen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Gary H. Ray<ghraynfbofnc at charter.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe I saw a post pointing to a place where an accessible
>>>>>>>> captcha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> be found. Can someone point me to it again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanx!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gary Ray, NC
>>>>>>>> 828 505 0299
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