From mota at hawaii.rr.com Thu Sep 1 22:48:20 2011 From: mota at hawaii.rr.com (Milton Ota) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 12:48:20 -1000 Subject: [Nfb-web] Conference Recording of 8/28/2011 Message-ID: <000901cc68f9$3fd08f80$bf71ae80$@rr.com> To All Affiliate, Division and Chapter Webmasters: Now available as an .MP3 file to eather stream or download is the recorded session of 8/28/2011. It is recommended that you download the file by right clicking or pressing your applications key and select save as. To be able to get the file you will need your username and password. If you don't have one, you can request for one right from the website. The website is at: http://nfb-web.nfb.org/ Another session will be scheduled this month but it will not be on a Sunday. Watch this list for the date and time. Milton Ota National Federation of the Blind From dbomer at txwinet.com Fri Sep 2 01:26:41 2011 From: dbomer at txwinet.com (Don Bomer (Tex)) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 20:26:41 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos Message-ID: Greetings I Know I Haven't been around for a while but I need help! I am working on a new website for my wife Ellen and I want to embed YouTube videos of several news interviews of her that were recorded shorftly after Bin Laden was killed. Embedding the videos isn't a problem as YouTube provides the code for every file. However, they now use IFrames rather than the less secure Object, Embed method and I can find no way to add Alt Text to the embedded videos. Has anyone seen a solution to this problem? I'd sure like to know the answer. Here is the functional snippet of my code. I tried tseveral methods but can't get JAWS to say anything between the IFrame and /IFrame tags: -------------------------------------------- In the Media

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Thanks and warm regards, Don Bomer From TOlivero at nfb.org Fri Sep 2 03:48:39 2011 From: TOlivero at nfb.org (Olivero, Tony) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 20:48:39 -0700 Subject: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <098893C0-5B22-4813-91D0-5E69928A282C@nfb.org> Don, I believe you can select an option when creating the embed link and still get the object code. This also gives a player with some labeled controls. Tony Sent from my wireless phone. Pith is intentional; typos or perceived abruptness are not. On Sep 1, 2011, at 21:27, "Don Bomer (Tex)" wrote: > Greetings > > I Know I Haven't been around for a while but I need help! > > I am working on a new website for my wife Ellen and I want to embed YouTube videos of several news interviews of her that were recorded shorftly after Bin Laden was killed. Embedding the videos isn't a problem as YouTube provides the code for every file. However, they now use IFrames rather than the less secure Object, Embed method and I can find no way to add Alt Text to the embedded videos. > > Has anyone seen a solution to this problem? I'd sure like to know the answer. > > Here is the functional snippet of my code. I tried tseveral methods but can't get JAWS to say anything between the IFrame and /IFrame tags: > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > > In the Media > > > >

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> > > > > > > Thanks and warm regards, > > Don Bomer > > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/tolivero%40nfb.org > From pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com Fri Sep 2 15:08:44 2011 From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com (Peter Donahue) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:08:44 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos References: <098893C0-5B22-4813-91D0-5E69928A282C@nfb.org> Message-ID: <008301cc6982$357189c0$9e010b43@yourfsyly0jtwn> Good morning everyone, Why not just place the videos directly on the same server as the site itself? You can then create hyper links to allow visitors to access the videos directly from the site instead of uTube. uTube is a great place to store videos but I wouldn't want visitors seeing some of the obnoxious and distracting adds they display. Some of them are rather explicit. When I build a Web site for a client their audio or video content goes directly on the same server as their Web site. If they want it on uTube I'll do that too but not without first posting it on the server as their site. If you visited the NFB Web sites you'll see that this is exactly how this is done. If disk space is an issue you can purchess additional space if needed to accommodate these files due to their size. Hope this helps. Peter Donahue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olivero, Tony" To: "NFB Webmaster's List" Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos Don, I believe you can select an option when creating the embed link and still get the object code. This also gives a player with some labeled controls. Tony Sent from my wireless phone. Pith is intentional; typos or perceived abruptness are not. On Sep 1, 2011, at 21:27, "Don Bomer (Tex)" wrote: > Greetings > > I Know I Haven't been around for a while but I need help! > > I am working on a new website for my wife Ellen and I want to embed > YouTube videos of several news interviews of her that were recorded > shorftly after Bin Laden was killed. Embedding the videos isn't a problem > as YouTube provides the code for every file. However, they now use > IFrames rather than the less secure Object, Embed method and I can find no > way to add Alt Text to the embedded videos. > > Has anyone seen a solution to this problem? I'd sure like to know the > answer. > > Here is the functional snippet of my code. I tried tseveral methods but > can't get JAWS to say anything between the IFrame and /IFrame tags: > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > > In the Media > > > >

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> > > > > > > Thanks and warm regards, > > Don Bomer > > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Nfb-web: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/tolivero%40nfb.org > _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/pdonahue2%40satx.rr.com From dbomer at txwinet.com Fri Sep 2 19:12:36 2011 From: dbomer at txwinet.com (Don Bomer (Tex)) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:12:36 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos References: <098893C0-5B22-4813-91D0-5E69928A282C@nfb.org> Message-ID: <086D23D8ED1A45D6BF09B8D2324CF4CD@base1> Thanks Tony, Yes, you can do that. However, Object code is said to be less secure and I couldn't size the displayed result for some reason. Regards, Don... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olivero, Tony" To: "NFB Webmaster's List" Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos > Don, > > > I believe you can select an option when creating the embed link and still > get the object code. This also gives a player with some labeled controls. > > Tony > > Sent from my wireless phone. Pith is intentional; typos or perceived > abruptness are not. > > On Sep 1, 2011, at 21:27, "Don Bomer (Tex)" wrote: > >> Greetings >> >> I Know I Haven't been around for a while but I need help! >> >> I am working on a new website for my wife Ellen and I want to embed >> YouTube videos of several news interviews of her that were recorded >> shorftly after Bin Laden was killed. Embedding the videos isn't a problem >> as YouTube provides the code for every file. However, they now use >> IFrames rather than the less secure Object, Embed method and I can find >> no way to add Alt Text to the embedded videos. >> >> Has anyone seen a solution to this problem? I'd sure like to know the >> answer. >> >> Here is the functional snippet of my code. I tried tseveral methods but >> can't get JAWS to say anything between the IFrame and /IFrame tags: >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> In the Media >> >> >> >>

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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks and warm regards, >> >> Don Bomer >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nfb-web mailing list >> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> Nfb-web: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/tolivero%40nfb.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Nfb-web: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/dbomer%40txwinet.com > > From dbomer at txwinet.com Fri Sep 2 19:16:41 2011 From: dbomer at txwinet.com (Don Bomer (Tex)) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:16:41 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos References: <098893C0-5B22-4813-91D0-5E69928A282C@nfb.org> <008301cc6982$357189c0$9e010b43@yourfsyly0jtwn> Message-ID: <1DAFF76CD86049CEAD0B8918A3B1A6B5@base1> Hi Peter, Space shouldn't be a problem. I do some testing and see what I can do with that. Thanks and warm regards, Don... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Donahue" To: "NFB Webmaster's List" Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos > Good morning everyone, > > Why not just place the videos directly on the same server as the site > itself? You can then create hyper links to allow visitors to access the > videos directly from the site instead of uTube. > > uTube is a great place to store videos but I wouldn't want visitors seeing > some of the obnoxious and distracting adds they display. Some of them are > rather explicit. When I build a Web site for a client their audio or video > content goes directly on the same server as their Web site. If they want > it > on uTube I'll do that too but not without first posting it on the server > as > their site. If you visited the NFB Web sites you'll see that this is > exactly > how this is done. If disk space is an issue you can purchess additional > space if needed to accommodate these files due to their size. Hope this > helps. > > Peter Donahue > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Olivero, Tony" > To: "NFB Webmaster's List" > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos > > > Don, > > > I believe you can select an option when creating the embed link and still > get the object code. This also gives a player with some labeled controls. > > Tony > > Sent from my wireless phone. Pith is intentional; typos or perceived > abruptness are not. > > On Sep 1, 2011, at 21:27, "Don Bomer (Tex)" wrote: > >> Greetings >> >> I Know I Haven't been around for a while but I need help! >> >> I am working on a new website for my wife Ellen and I want to embed >> YouTube videos of several news interviews of her that were recorded >> shorftly after Bin Laden was killed. Embedding the videos isn't a problem >> as YouTube provides the code for every file. However, they now use >> IFrames rather than the less secure Object, Embed method and I can find >> no >> way to add Alt Text to the embedded videos. >> >> Has anyone seen a solution to this problem? I'd sure like to know the >> answer. >> >> Here is the functional snippet of my code. I tried tseveral methods but >> can't get JAWS to say anything between the IFrame and /IFrame tags: >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> In the Media >> >> >> >>

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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks and warm regards, >> >> Don Bomer >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nfb-web mailing list >> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> Nfb-web: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/tolivero%40nfb.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Nfb-web: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/pdonahue2%40satx.rr.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/dbomer%40txwinet.com > > From pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com Fri Sep 2 20:38:03 2011 From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com (Peter Donahue) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:38:03 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos References: <098893C0-5B22-4813-91D0-5E69928A282C@nfb.org><008301cc6982$357189c0$9e010b43@yourfsyly0jtwn> <1DAFF76CD86049CEAD0B8918A3B1A6B5@base1> Message-ID: <002901cc69b0$36b00e50$9e010b43@yourfsyly0jtwn> Hello Don and everyone, Here's the code to link to a video file for playback: http://www.site.com/videos/filename.wmv">My Video The video can be in any format. I for one prefer Windows Media as when played in Media Player you can get a full-screen view as if you were watching it on T.V.I bet Ellen would look and sound great on a 60-inch HD T.V. and heard in 6.1 channel surround sound. Now to get Mary's computer ready for a trip to the hospital next week. We believe she may have a virus. All the best. Peter Donahue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Bomer (Tex)" To: "NFB Webmaster's List" Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos Hi Peter, Space shouldn't be a problem. I do some testing and see what I can do with that. Thanks and warm regards, Don... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Donahue" To: "NFB Webmaster's List" Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos > Good morning everyone, > > Why not just place the videos directly on the same server as the site > itself? You can then create hyper links to allow visitors to access the > videos directly from the site instead of uTube. > > uTube is a great place to store videos but I wouldn't want visitors seeing > some of the obnoxious and distracting adds they display. Some of them are > rather explicit. When I build a Web site for a client their audio or video > content goes directly on the same server as their Web site. If they want > it > on uTube I'll do that too but not without first posting it on the server > as > their site. If you visited the NFB Web sites you'll see that this is > exactly > how this is done. If disk space is an issue you can purchess additional > space if needed to accommodate these files due to their size. Hope this > helps. > > Peter Donahue > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Olivero, Tony" > To: "NFB Webmaster's List" > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos > > > Don, > > > I believe you can select an option when creating the embed link and still > get the object code. This also gives a player with some labeled controls. > > Tony > > Sent from my wireless phone. Pith is intentional; typos or perceived > abruptness are not. > > On Sep 1, 2011, at 21:27, "Don Bomer (Tex)" wrote: > >> Greetings >> >> I Know I Haven't been around for a while but I need help! >> >> I am working on a new website for my wife Ellen and I want to embed >> YouTube videos of several news interviews of her that were recorded >> shorftly after Bin Laden was killed. Embedding the videos isn't a problem >> as YouTube provides the code for every file. However, they now use >> IFrames rather than the less secure Object, Embed method and I can find >> no >> way to add Alt Text to the embedded videos. >> >> Has anyone seen a solution to this problem? I'd sure like to know the >> answer. >> >> Here is the functional snippet of my code. I tried tseveral methods but >> can't get JAWS to say anything between the IFrame and /IFrame tags: >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> In the Media >> >> >> >>

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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks and warm regards, >> >> Don Bomer >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nfb-web mailing list >> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> Nfb-web: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/tolivero%40nfb.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Nfb-web: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/pdonahue2%40satx.rr.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/dbomer%40txwinet.com > > _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/pdonahue2%40satx.rr.com From mota at hawaii.rr.com Sat Sep 3 17:42:32 2011 From: mota at hawaii.rr.com (Milton Ota) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 07:42:32 -1000 Subject: [Nfb-web] Next Conference and Training Message-ID: <000301cc6a60$dc76f550$9564dff0$@rr.com> To all Affiliate, Division and Chapter Webmasters: Can we plan for our next Conference and Training at the website of "Out-of-Sight" for Saturday, September 24, 2011 to begin at 3 PM Eastern Time, (2 PM Central, 1 PM Mountain and 12 Noon Pacific) time. At this time there is no specific topic but if someone has a suggestion, please let either Gary Wunder gwunder at earthlink.net or Milton Ota mota at hawaii.rr.com know. If you have not joined the "Out-of-Sight.net" you will need to complete an online application at: http://out-of-sight.net Allow 24 to 48 hours for confirmation of your log in. Once you have received your confirmation of log in you will need to download the small plug-in for the Talking Communities conference client to be able to join us in the conference room that is specifically setup for our use. If you miss the session, the session will be recorded. For further questions, contact committee chair Gary Wunder (e-mail found above) or just reply to this list. Milton Ota National Federation of the Blind From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 3 20:17:24 2011 From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:17:24 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Next Conference and Training References: <000301cc6a60$dc76f550$9564dff0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <3F0D16F496124B05A9C6EFA361278C67@HP8730notebook> hi, why can't people join in on a weekday? Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Milton Ota" To: "'NFB Webmaster's List'" Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 12:42 PM Subject: [Nfb-web] Next Conference and Training > To all Affiliate, Division and Chapter Webmasters: > > > > Can we plan for our next Conference and Training at the website of > "Out-of-Sight" for Saturday, September 24, 2011 to begin at 3 PM Eastern > Time, (2 PM Central, 1 PM Mountain and 12 Noon Pacific) time. > > > > At this time there is no specific topic but if someone has a suggestion, > please let either Gary Wunder gwunder at earthlink.net or Milton Ota > mota at hawaii.rr.com know. > > > > If you have not joined the "Out-of-Sight.net" you will need to complete an > online application at: http://out-of-sight.net > > > > Allow 24 to 48 hours for confirmation of your log in. > > > > Once you have received your confirmation of log in you will need to > download > the small plug-in for the Talking Communities conference client to be able > to join us in the conference room that is specifically setup for our use. > > > > If you miss the session, the session will be recorded. > > > > For further questions, contact committee chair Gary Wunder (e-mail found > above) or just reply to this list. > > > > Milton Ota > > National Federation of the Blind > > > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net From mhansen4 at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 20:49:40 2011 From: mhansen4 at gmail.com (Michael Hansen) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:49:40 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Next Conference and Training In-Reply-To: <3F0D16F496124B05A9C6EFA361278C67@HP8730notebook> References: <000301cc6a60$dc76f550$9564dff0$@rr.com> <3F0D16F496124B05A9C6EFA361278C67@HP8730notebook> Message-ID: Selfishly, I know that my job (Monday - Friday, 8 to 5) would prevent me from attending something during the day on a weekday. The other issue that we run into is that the organizer of these events Milton is in Hawaii which means there is a 5 hour time difference between some of our participants. In my humble opinion the middle of the day on either Saturday or Sunday seems to be the best option. Mike --- Mike Hansen On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote: > hi, > > why can't people join in on a weekday? > > Bryan Schulz > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Milton Ota" > To: "'NFB Webmaster's List'" > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 12:42 PM > Subject: [Nfb-web] Next Conference and Training > > >> To all Affiliate, Division and Chapter Webmasters: >> >> >> >> Can we plan for our next Conference and Training at the website of >> "Out-of-Sight" for Saturday, September 24, 2011 to begin at 3 PM Eastern >> Time, (2 PM Central, 1 PM Mountain and 12 Noon Pacific) time. >> >> >> >> At this time there is no specific topic but if someone has a suggestion, >> please let either Gary Wunder gwunder at earthlink.net or Milton Ota >> mota at hawaii.rr.com know. >> >> >> >> If you have not joined the "Out-of-Sight.net" you will need to complete an >> online application at: http://out-of-sight.net >> >> >> >> Allow 24 to 48 hours for confirmation of your log in. >> >> >> >> Once you have received your confirmation of log in you will need to >> download >> the small plug-in for the Talking Communities conference client to be able >> to join us in the conference room that is specifically setup for our use. >> >> >> >> If you miss the session, the session will be recorded. >> >> >> >> For further questions, contact committee chair Gary Wunder (e-mail found >> above) or just reply to this list. >> >> >> >> Milton Ota >> >> National Federation of the Blind >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nfb-web mailing list >> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> Nfb-web: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mhansen4%40gmail.com > From mhansen4 at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 02:17:43 2011 From: mhansen4 at gmail.com (Michael Hansen) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 21:17:43 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Drupal 7 on nfbnet Message-ID: All, I just finished up migrating the nfb-web sandbox from drupall 6.22 to drupal 7.7. This is the first time I have seen drupal 7 so I am excited to play around a bit. I don't know yet if the NFB Drupal templates will work with version 7 or if I will have to do some tweaking, but that will be the next thing I work on. Feel free to check it out if you haven't ever played with Drupal 7. Just log into www.nfb-web.nfb.org and then go to the sandbox for further info. Mike --- Mike Hansen From lists at zufelt.ca Mon Sep 5 02:32:32 2011 From: lists at zufelt.ca (E.J. Zufelt) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 22:32:32 -0400 Subject: [Nfb-web] Drupal 7 on nfbnet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52376F39-4B44-4F26-9E6C-88259639563E@zufelt.ca> Hi Mike, FOr information on upgrading a theme from Drupal 6 to 7 see: http://drupal.org/node/254940 Note that not all of the items there will apply to you. For example the first item is that the element ids of block wrappers have been changed in Drupal 7. If your current theme relies on these ids for styling then you will need to make changes, otherwise you can ignore the item. Remember that if your theme is a sub-theme of another than you will need to look at both themes for changes. HTH, Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 2011-09-04, at 10:17 PM, Michael Hansen wrote: > All, > > I just finished up migrating the nfb-web sandbox from drupall 6.22 to > drupal 7.7. This is the first time I have seen drupal 7 so I am > excited to play around a bit. I don't know yet if the NFB Drupal > templates will work with version 7 or if I will have to do some > tweaking, but that will be the next thing I work on. > > Feel free to check it out if you haven't ever played with Drupal 7. > Just log into www.nfb-web.nfb.org and then go to the sandbox for > further info. > > Mike > --- > Mike Hansen > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/lists%40zufelt.ca From mhansen4 at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 15:53:54 2011 From: mhansen4 at gmail.com (Michael Hansen) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 10:53:54 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Drupal 7 on nfbnet In-Reply-To: <52376F39-4B44-4F26-9E6C-88259639563E@zufelt.ca> References: <52376F39-4B44-4F26-9E6C-88259639563E@zufelt.ca> Message-ID: Thanks Everett --- Mike Hansen On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:32 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: > Hi Mike, > > FOr information on upgrading a theme from Drupal 6 to 7 see: > > http://drupal.org/node/254940 > > > Note that not all of the items there will apply to you. ?For example the first item is that the element ids of block wrappers have been changed in Drupal 7. ?If your current theme relies on these ids for styling then you will need to make changes, otherwise you can ignore the item. ?Remember that if your theme is a sub-theme of another than you will need to look at both themes for changes. > > HTH, > Everett Zufelt > http://zufelt.ca > > Follow me on Twitter > http://twitter.com/ezufelt > > View my LinkedIn Profile > http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt > > > > On 2011-09-04, at 10:17 PM, Michael Hansen wrote: > >> All, >> >> I just finished up migrating the nfb-web sandbox from drupall 6.22 to >> drupal 7.7. This is the first time I have seen drupal 7 so I am >> excited to play around a bit. I don't know yet if the NFB Drupal >> templates will work with version 7 or if I will have to do some >> tweaking, but that will be the next thing I work on. >> >> Feel free to check it out if you haven't ever played with Drupal 7. >> Just log into www.nfb-web.nfb.org and then go to the sandbox for >> further info. >> >> Mike >> --- >> Mike Hansen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nfb-web mailing list >> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/lists%40zufelt.ca > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mhansen4%40gmail.com > From lists at zufelt.ca Mon Sep 5 16:00:14 2011 From: lists at zufelt.ca (E.J. Zufelt) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 12:00:14 -0400 Subject: [Nfb-web] Drupal 7 on nfbnet In-Reply-To: References: <52376F39-4B44-4F26-9E6C-88259639563E@zufelt.ca> Message-ID: <9EFBBD4E-D0D3-49DC-950F-1F4EEB5A92FB@zufelt.ca> The only other thing that I'd add is that you will likely want to disable the Overlay module, if it isn't already. Likely it was not enabled if you did an upgrade from 6 to 7. When enabled the Overlay module opens admin and content editing pages in a modal dialog above the page from which they are accessed. This causes some problems for screen-reader users that we tried * very hard * to correct. We were not very successful. Overlay can be disabled on the entire site by disabling the module, or for individual users on their profile settings page. HTH, Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 2011-09-05, at 11:53 AM, Michael Hansen wrote: > Thanks Everett > --- > Mike Hansen > > > > On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:32 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> >> FOr information on upgrading a theme from Drupal 6 to 7 see: >> >> http://drupal.org/node/254940 >> >> >> Note that not all of the items there will apply to you. For example the first item is that the element ids of block wrappers have been changed in Drupal 7. If your current theme relies on these ids for styling then you will need to make changes, otherwise you can ignore the item. Remember that if your theme is a sub-theme of another than you will need to look at both themes for changes. >> >> HTH, >> Everett Zufelt >> http://zufelt.ca >> >> Follow me on Twitter >> http://twitter.com/ezufelt >> >> View my LinkedIn Profile >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt >> >> >> >> On 2011-09-04, at 10:17 PM, Michael Hansen wrote: >> >>> All, >>> >>> I just finished up migrating the nfb-web sandbox from drupall 6.22 to >>> drupal 7.7. This is the first time I have seen drupal 7 so I am >>> excited to play around a bit. I don't know yet if the NFB Drupal >>> templates will work with version 7 or if I will have to do some >>> tweaking, but that will be the next thing I work on. >>> >>> Feel free to check it out if you haven't ever played with Drupal 7. >>> Just log into www.nfb-web.nfb.org and then go to the sandbox for >>> further info. >>> >>> Mike >>> --- >>> Mike Hansen >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nfb-web mailing list >>> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/lists%40zufelt.ca >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nfb-web mailing list >> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mhansen4%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/lists%40zufelt.ca From mhansen4 at gmail.com Tue Sep 6 02:09:40 2011 From: mhansen4 at gmail.com (Michael Hansen) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:09:40 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Message-ID: All, Sometimes so that I don't get stuck in a rut, I will go and check out a few other NFB State websites to see how they do things. Well tonight I wandered over to the NFB of Missouri's website. I thought that it was both visually attractive and at first glance accessible. It seemed to be well organized and things were easy to find. If I had to say anything negative there might have been a couple alt tags missing but that was it. Very nice job Missouri I really liked what I saw and will come back again when we look at reorganizing our sites content. Check them out at: http://nfbmo.org/ Mike --- Mike Hansen NFB of Nebraska From startrekcafe at gmail.com Wed Sep 7 03:02:29 2011 From: startrekcafe at gmail.com (Marvin Hunkin) Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 20:02:29 -0700 Subject: [Nfb-web] your web master audio recording Message-ID: <4E66DEC5.507@gmail.com> hi. just listened to the web masters audio recording. milton, your voice was way too low, and even i turned up my speakers, the other speakers, were way too loud. so can you turn up your volume when you are speaking. well. doing a website development course and doing as a major project a data driven website, blindness related. and will be using xhtml, css, javascript, will be using dream weaver, and flash builder premium, and will be using either microsoft acess or sql server for my backend database. very interested in droople and word press. and interested in learning how to use a cms, as a newbie. marvin, from devonport, tasmania, australia. the little island at the bottom of australia, not new zealand. From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com Tue Sep 6 10:29:45 2011 From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 06:29:45 -0400 Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well here in NY State, if you check out the http://www.nfbny.org We here on Long Island just had our Annual Labor Day Walk A Thon, my husband took pictures and video, I was interviewing all officers and some who are not part of the chapter, people that are supporters. I hope to have them sent to the webmaster to post up on the website. Currently, I am the Treasurer of the Greater Long Island Chapter. Come by NY and check out what is going on in our state. We will be having our state convention, September 16-18 in Albany, NY. I believe we are also trying to get it streamed. Leading the Way in Independent Travel! Cheryl Echevarria http://www.echevarriatravel.com 631-456-5394 reservations at echevarriatravel.com Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located in Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & Travel, Inc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hansen" To: "NFB Webmaster's List" Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 10:09 PM Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri > All, > > Sometimes so that I don't get stuck in a rut, I will go and check out > a few other NFB State websites to see how they do things. Well tonight > I wandered over to the NFB of Missouri's website. I thought that it > was both visually attractive and at first glance accessible. It seemed > to be well organized and things were easy to find. If I had to say > anything negative there might have been a couple alt tags missing but > that was it. > > Very nice job Missouri I really liked what I saw and will come back > again when we look at reorganizing our sites content. > > Check them out at: > http://nfbmo.org/ > > Mike > --- > Mike Hansen > NFB of Nebraska > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/cherylandmaxx%40hotmail.com > From GWunder at earthlink.net Tue Sep 6 13:14:07 2011 From: GWunder at earthlink.net (Gary Wunder) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 08:14:07 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5D006AF281734BC38F4566C615887DDB@GaryWunderPC> Hi Mike. Thank you for honorable mention of our website. We are in something of a bind because we have paid a gentleman to use WordPress to make our site more attractive, but we now need help in learning how to maintain it ourselves. WordPress seems to suffer from the frailty we've seen in other web authoring tools. It relies on selecting text and then pressing buttons to do whatever one wishes with that text. For screen reader users the difficulty is that moving the cursor to find buttons once the text is selected causes it to become unselected. A person or two at our webmaster's meeting in July suggested that there are ways to make WordPress more accessible for those of us needing to manage content, and so we are hoping to have a class on that if we can. Until then Missouri is still reliant on our paid consultant. He is a very nice man and likes working with us, but he can't forever be expected to continue our updates, and we probably can't live with the delay inherent in having all of our web material updated by one person. If any of you have ideas you'd like to suggest, Missouri would be more than happy to have them. Again, I'm glad for the comments on our website, and I hope we can take it to a whole new level. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hansen Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:10 PM To: NFB Webmaster's List Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri All, Sometimes so that I don't get stuck in a rut, I will go and check out a few other NFB State websites to see how they do things. Well tonight I wandered over to the NFB of Missouri's website. I thought that it was both visually attractive and at first glance accessible. It seemed to be well organized and things were easy to find. If I had to say anything negative there might have been a couple alt tags missing but that was it. Very nice job Missouri I really liked what I saw and will come back again when we look at reorganizing our sites content. Check them out at: http://nfbmo.org/ Mike --- Mike Hansen NFB of Nebraska _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net From mbaldwin at gpcom.net Tue Sep 6 14:35:29 2011 From: mbaldwin at gpcom.net (Michael Baldwin) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:35:29 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri In-Reply-To: <5D006AF281734BC38F4566C615887DDB@GaryWunderPC> Message-ID: Hi, I recently joined this list, I have a few websites and such. I was going to write an intro, but I thought I would say hi in this message. I do php and MySQL stuff. I can do a little html and .css, but I prefer to hire most of that out. I need to start learning more though. I have been using word press for a few years now, and I update my own content and stuff. I install the Ozh admin drop down menu plugin. This makes the admin menus easier to navigate for me, it expands all the menus, so you know what you have to work with. In the profile for the users that will be posting, I ? Disable the visual editor when writing. There is a screen options button on many screens, this allows you to remove stuff from screens you might not want to worry about. In the add new post area, I change it to use a 1 column layout. Jaws seems to navigate it better for me. The options usually appear above the screen options link you entered on. I find it easier to write my post in notepad, and add in any extra html tags that might be needed. Otherwise, it is probably best to add your tags first, then go in to the post box, and insert the text between the tags. So if you want something bold, type until you get to that point, get out of forms mode and find the b button for bolding, enter on this button twice. Once for the opening tag, and the second time to put the closing tag. Go back to the post edit box and find the tags, for bold it would be . Between the <> enter your text. Note: there are less than, greater than, and a slash in the html tags above, encase your punctuation reading is off. Hope that helps you out some. Michael -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi Mike. Thank you for honorable mention of our website. We are in something of a bind because we have paid a gentleman to use WordPress to make our site more attractive, but we now need help in learning how to maintain it ourselves. WordPress seems to suffer from the frailty we've seen in other web authoring tools. It relies on selecting text and then pressing buttons to do whatever one wishes with that text. For screen reader users the difficulty is that moving the cursor to find buttons once the text is selected causes it to become unselected. A person or two at our webmaster's meeting in July suggested that there are ways to make WordPress more accessible for those of us needing to manage content, and so we are hoping to have a class on that if we can. Until then Missouri is still reliant on our paid consultant. He is a very nice man and likes working with us, but he can't forever be expected to continue our updates, and we probably can't live with the delay inherent in having all of our web material updated by one person. If any of you have ideas you'd like to suggest, Missouri would be more than happy to have them. Again, I'm glad for the comments on our website, and I hope we can take it to a whole new level. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hansen Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:10 PM To: NFB Webmaster's List Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri All, Sometimes so that I don't get stuck in a rut, I will go and check out a few other NFB State websites to see how they do things. Well tonight I wandered over to the NFB of Missouri's website. I thought that it was both visually attractive and at first glance accessible. It seemed to be well organized and things were easy to find. If I had to say anything negative there might have been a couple alt tags missing but that was it. Very nice job Missouri I really liked what I saw and will come back again when we look at reorganizing our sites content. Check them out at: http://nfbmo.org/ Mike --- Mike Hansen NFB of Nebraska _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mbaldwin%40gpcom.net From thomas.stivers at gmail.com Wed Sep 7 01:40:34 2011 From: thomas.stivers at gmail.com (Thomas Stivers) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 20:40:34 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri In-Reply-To: <5D006AF281734BC38F4566C615887DDB@GaryWunderPC> References: <5D006AF281734BC38F4566C615887DDB@GaryWunderPC> Message-ID: <23CFB013B9EE4815B0F2F35DFECFE7C2@moe> I have a few suggestions. If you or someone in your affiliate has knowledge of, or is willing to learn, basic html markup then check the "disable the visual editor when writing" checkbox. This checkbox is located on the profile page for each user. This will make the text box you write in a bit more predictable. Also the buttons which affect selected text have keyboard shortcuts in most cases. I find that I almost never use the buttons, but write out the html for the content of posts by hand. Frequently I compose my posts and pages in a text editor and then paste the finished product into the composition form. This lets me retain the control of writing at least the body of the page by hand, but allows me to have the content management system handle all the visual effects surrounding the content. Thomas Stivers http://nfbtx.org http://nfbaustin.org -----Original Message----- From: Gary Wunder Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 AM To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi Mike. Thank you for honorable mention of our website. We are in something of a bind because we have paid a gentleman to use WordPress to make our site more attractive, but we now need help in learning how to maintain it ourselves. WordPress seems to suffer from the frailty we've seen in other web authoring tools. It relies on selecting text and then pressing buttons to do whatever one wishes with that text. For screen reader users the difficulty is that moving the cursor to find buttons once the text is selected causes it to become unselected. A person or two at our webmaster's meeting in July suggested that there are ways to make WordPress more accessible for those of us needing to manage content, and so we are hoping to have a class on that if we can. Until then Missouri is still reliant on our paid consultant. He is a very nice man and likes working with us, but he can't forever be expected to continue our updates, and we probably can't live with the delay inherent in having all of our web material updated by one person. If any of you have ideas you'd like to suggest, Missouri would be more than happy to have them. Again, I'm glad for the comments on our website, and I hope we can take it to a whole new level. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hansen Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:10 PM To: NFB Webmaster's List Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri All, Sometimes so that I don't get stuck in a rut, I will go and check out a few other NFB State websites to see how they do things. Well tonight I wandered over to the NFB of Missouri's website. I thought that it was both visually attractive and at first glance accessible. It seemed to be well organized and things were easy to find. If I had to say anything negative there might have been a couple alt tags missing but that was it. Very nice job Missouri I really liked what I saw and will come back again when we look at reorganizing our sites content. Check them out at: http://nfbmo.org/ Mike --- Mike Hansen NFB of Nebraska _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/thomas.stivers%40gmail.com From mhansen4 at gmail.com Wed Sep 7 02:58:54 2011 From: mhansen4 at gmail.com (Michael Hansen) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 21:58:54 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] WordPress Help Message-ID: Thomas, Would you be willing to formally write out a few paragraphs on to make maintaining content with / administrating Wordpress more accessible to the blind. I would like to put it on the web masters website so that we have it for reference later. Please include a few note about what versions you know that these tips work with. Colaboration is what this group is all about. Thanks Mike --- Mike Hansen On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Thomas Stivers wrote: > I have a few suggestions. If you or someone in your affiliate has knowledge > of, or is willing to learn, basic html markup then check the "disable the > visual editor when writing" checkbox. This checkbox is located on the > profile page for each user. This will make the text box you write in a bit > more predictable. Also the buttons which affect selected text have keyboard > shortcuts in most cases. I find that I almost never use the buttons, but > write out the html for the content of posts by hand. Frequently I compose my > posts and pages in a text editor and then paste the finished product into > the composition form. This lets me retain the control of writing at least > the body of the page by hand, but allows me to have the content management > system handle all the visual effects surrounding the content. > > Thomas Stivers > http://nfbtx.org > http://nfbaustin.org > > -----Original Message----- From: Gary Wunder > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 AM > To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' > Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri > > Hi Mike. ?Thank you for honorable mention of our website. ?We are in > something of a bind because we have paid a gentleman to use WordPress to > make our site more attractive, but we now need help in learning how to > maintain it ourselves. ?WordPress seems to suffer from the frailty we've > seen in other web authoring tools. ?It relies on selecting text and then > pressing buttons to do whatever one wishes with that text. ?For screen > reader users the difficulty is that moving the cursor to find buttons once > the text is selected causes it to become unselected. > > A person or two at our webmaster's meeting in July suggested that there are > ways to make WordPress more accessible for those of us needing to manage > content, and so we are hoping to have a class on that if we can. ?Until then > Missouri is still reliant on our paid consultant. ?He is a very nice man and > likes working with us, but he can't forever be expected to continue our > updates, and we probably can't live with the delay inherent in having all of > our web material updated by one person. > > If any of you have ideas you'd like to suggest, Missouri would be more than > happy to have them. ?Again, I'm glad for the comments on our website, and I > hope we can take it to a whole new level. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Michael Hansen > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:10 PM > To: NFB Webmaster's List > Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri > > All, > > Sometimes so that I don't get stuck in a rut, I will go and check out > a few other NFB State websites to see how they do things. Well tonight > I wandered over to the NFB of Missouri's website. I thought that it > was both visually attractive and at first glance accessible. It seemed > to be well organized and things were easy to find. If I had to say > anything negative there might have been a couple alt tags missing but > that was it. > > Very nice job Missouri I really liked what I saw and will come back > again when we look at reorganizing our sites content. > > Check them out at: > http://nfbmo.org/ > > Mike > --- > Mike Hansen > NFB of Nebraska > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/thomas.stivers%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mhansen4%40gmail.com > From dbomer at txwinet.com Wed Sep 7 23:49:14 2011 From: dbomer at txwinet.com (Don Bomer (Tex)) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 18:49:14 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos References: <098893C0-5B22-4813-91D0-5E69928A282C@nfb.org><008301cc6982$357189c0$9e010b43@yourfsyly0jtwn><1DAFF76CD86049CEAD0B8918A3B1A6B5@base1> <002901cc69b0$36b00e50$9e010b43@yourfsyly0jtwn> Message-ID: All the best for you and Mary too. Don... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Donahue" To: "NFB Webmaster's List" Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos > Hello Don and everyone, > > Here's the code to link to a video file for playback: > http://www.site.com/videos/filename.wmv">My Video > > The video can be in any format. I for one prefer Windows Media as when > played in Media Player you can get a full-screen view as if you were > watching it on T.V.I bet Ellen would look and sound great on a 60-inch HD > T.V. and heard in 6.1 channel surround sound. > > Now to get Mary's computer ready for a trip to the hospital next week. > We believe she may have a virus. All the best. > > Peter Donahue > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Bomer (Tex)" > To: "NFB Webmaster's List" > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:16 PM > Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos > > > Hi Peter, > > Space shouldn't be a problem. I do some testing and see what I can do > with > that. > > Thanks and warm regards, > > Don... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Donahue" > To: "NFB Webmaster's List" > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:08 AM > Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos > > >> Good morning everyone, >> >> Why not just place the videos directly on the same server as the site >> itself? You can then create hyper links to allow visitors to access the >> videos directly from the site instead of uTube. >> >> uTube is a great place to store videos but I wouldn't want visitors >> seeing >> some of the obnoxious and distracting adds they display. Some of them are >> rather explicit. When I build a Web site for a client their audio or >> video >> content goes directly on the same server as their Web site. If they want >> it >> on uTube I'll do that too but not without first posting it on the server >> as >> their site. If you visited the NFB Web sites you'll see that this is >> exactly >> how this is done. If disk space is an issue you can purchess additional >> space if needed to accommodate these files due to their size. Hope this >> helps. >> >> Peter Donahue >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Olivero, Tony" >> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" >> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Alt Text for Embedded YouTube Videos >> >> >> Don, >> >> >> I believe you can select an option when creating the embed link and still >> get the object code. This also gives a player with some labeled controls. >> >> Tony >> >> Sent from my wireless phone. Pith is intentional; typos or perceived >> abruptness are not. >> >> On Sep 1, 2011, at 21:27, "Don Bomer (Tex)" wrote: >> >>> Greetings >>> >>> I Know I Haven't been around for a while but I need help! >>> >>> I am working on a new website for my wife Ellen and I want to embed >>> YouTube videos of several news interviews of her that were recorded >>> shorftly after Bin Laden was killed. Embedding the videos isn't a >>> problem >>> as YouTube provides the code for every file. However, they now use >>> IFrames rather than the less secure Object, Embed method and I can find >>> no >>> way to add Alt Text to the embedded videos. >>> >>> Has anyone seen a solution to this problem? I'd sure like to know the >>> answer. >>> >>> Here is the functional snippet of my code. I tried tseveral methods but >>> can't get JAWS to say anything between the IFrame and /IFrame tags: >>> >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In the Media >>> >>> >>> >>>

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>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks and warm regards, >>> >>> Don Bomer >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nfb-web mailing list >>> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> Nfb-web: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/tolivero%40nfb.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nfb-web mailing list >> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> Nfb-web: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/pdonahue2%40satx.rr.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nfb-web mailing list >> Nfb-web at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> Nfb-web: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/dbomer%40txwinet.com >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/pdonahue2%40satx.rr.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/dbomer%40txwinet.com > > From mota at hawaii.rr.com Sun Sep 18 18:31:33 2011 From: mota at hawaii.rr.com (Milton Ota) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:31:33 -1000 Subject: [Nfb-web] Next Conference and Training Session Message-ID: <001701cc7631$31970e40$94c52ac0$@rr.com> To Webmasters of Affiliates, Divisions, Chapters and Interested Parties: The next Conference and Training Session on the Out-of-Sight.net is scheduled for Saturday, September 24, 2011; from 3:00 PM Eastern Time, (2:00 PM Central, 1:00 PM Mountain and 12:00 PM Noon Pacific). Please plan to join me. At the moment we do not have a speaker or topic so if there is something that you are able to talk about in this training session, please come on in. Remember, if you haven't registered for an account you will need to do this to obtain a password to enter the site. Registration is FREE and you will need to do this only once. Allow at least 48 hours for site administrators to respond to your request to join the site. Out-of-Sight.net uses the Talking communities conference/chat room client. If you haven't used this conference room before, you will need to download a small plug-in to be able to fully participate in the conference. It is recommended that you have a high speed internet connection for the best result. If you have any further questions, feel free to post them here to the list. Hope to see you all there! Milton Ota National Federation of the Blind From mhansen4 at gmail.com Mon Sep 19 03:53:17 2011 From: mhansen4 at gmail.com (Michael Hansen) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 22:53:17 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Other possible topics Message-ID: Milton, Other possible topics for the NFB Webmaster conference calls could be. 1. Documentating a website. 2. Pay Pal Best Practices 3. On-line Convention registration methods and best practices 4. Email Lists (what options are there) 5. Website Backups (A content management system requires a database backup as well as a file backup) Mike --- Mike Hansen NFB of Nebraska From pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com Wed Sep 21 15:40:00 2011 From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com (Peter Donahue) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:40:00 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Sound Forge Not Opening Files Message-ID: <00dd01cc7874$b9ad65f0$9e010b43@yourfsyly0jtwn> Good morning everyone, For many years I've been using Sony's Sound Forge and until now have never had any trouble with it. I'm currently using Sound Forge Audio Studio 8 on my PC under Windows XP Home. Again it has always worked correctly until a few days ago. I have another program I use strictly for recording audio from the Internet and have it installed on two computers. I'm not sure if the recorder is producing corrupt files on my PC or if it's a problem within Sound Forge that is causing files recorded on this computer to not open. I tried several file formats and got the same results. The files were opened to about 64% and the file open operation halted at that point. It took several reboots of my computer each time this happened to get everything working right but the file open problem still persists. I also tried opening the files with several other digital-audio editors including Gold Wave and Audacity, and got the same results. There's one more twist to this situation that seems to point to the recorder being the culprit by producing corrupt files. I recorded several events on my laptop and brought them to this machine for editing and fix-up. I use Sound Forge for my file editing projects. These files opened in Sound Forge without any trouble and I was able to clean them up and save them as I usually do. The recording program I use is called "Record Pad" and is sold by NCH Software. This program is very easy to use and works very well with JAWS 12.0 and earlier versions. Another thing I like about Record Pad is that it saves your recordings as they're made. Sound Forge requires you to first save your recording just so you don't loose it before doing your edits. I had several incidents in which the power went out in the middle or shortly after an event was over yet Record Pad still saved the recording I made. I have Record Pad on several computers and use it whenever I record from those machines as well. The files play all right after I finish recording them giving me no reason to suspect that they're corrupt in any way. It's only when I record something on this particular machine that digital-audio editors will not open the finished files for further processing. Yet is I open files made on another computer this problem does not occur. Any ideas? Your feedback will help very much. Peter Donahue "Will you come and awake our lost land from its slumber And her fetters we'll break, links that long are encumbered. And the air will resound with hosannas to greet you On the shore will be found gallant Irishmen to greet you." Will You Come to the Bower Traditional Irish Folk Song From tamara.8024 at comcast.net Wed Sep 21 20:30:27 2011 From: tamara.8024 at comcast.net (Tami Kinney) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:30:27 -0700 Subject: [Nfb-web] Drupal 7 on nfbnet.org server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1316637027.2154.140.camel@Tami-Pangolin-Performance> Mike, I gave Drupal 7 a shot when it first came out and ran into the same problem -- a missing php component. So decided to stick with what I have -- latest 6.2x -- to get work done instead of playing around, thinking I could come back to play later... Haven't got there yet, so does that mean it's not later? /grin/ You mention dealing with missing php components with a .ini file? I seem to need the GD image library component and cannot for the life of me figure out how to work around that need... Which could easily just be me. Do you know of a way I could make images work for me? Please do keep us all informed about what you find out about using Drupal 7, since I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to know. Er.. Unless there's somebody who has already replied that does know. Or you've created a sandbox we can play in. Cool! . /smile/ Tami On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 14:50 -0500, Michael Hansen wrote: > Is anyone running Drupal 7 on the nfbnet.org server? I tried to set it > up last night and found that a required PHP commponent is missing. I > think I might be able to get around it with a local php.ini file but I > thought I would ask first if any one has gotten it up and going yet. > > Thanks > Mike > --- > Mike Hansen > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/tamara.8024%40comcast.net From startrekcafe at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 00:36:47 2011 From: startrekcafe at gmail.com (Marvin Hunkin) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:36:47 -0700 Subject: [Nfb-web] New Drawing Tool Message-ID: <4E7BD49F.9030803@gmail.com> hi. if you visit http://www.dickbaldwin.com, got this program link from the top tid bits from http://top.enterprises.com and it is a accessible java based drawing tool for the blind. he is a university student. and so it is fully accessible. it comes in a zip file. and you need the latest or a recent java jre or sdk, and java access bridge. cool, i have always wanted to create data flow diagrams, flow charts, for my help desk course, and computer programming. and also to design a story board for my blindness related site, for my website development course. well i was able to start a new drawing, and able to create a line control. real cool. check it out. Marvin. From GWunder at earthlink.net Thu Sep 22 16:48:22 2011 From: GWunder at earthlink.net (Gary Wunder) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:48:22 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Next Conference and Training Session In-Reply-To: <001701cc7631$31970e40$94c52ac0$@rr.com> References: <001701cc7631$31970e40$94c52ac0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <883ABF1C006E4DA1B2A6AB8A959BB736@GaryWunderPC> I am looking forward to this training. Thank you Milton. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Milton Ota Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 1:32 PM To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: [Nfb-web] Next Conference and Training Session Importance: High To Webmasters of Affiliates, Divisions, Chapters and Interested Parties: The next Conference and Training Session on the Out-of-Sight.net is scheduled for Saturday, September 24, 2011; from 3:00 PM Eastern Time, (2:00 PM Central, 1:00 PM Mountain and 12:00 PM Noon Pacific). Please plan to join me. At the moment we do not have a speaker or topic so if there is something that you are able to talk about in this training session, please come on in. Remember, if you haven't registered for an account you will need to do this to obtain a password to enter the site. Registration is FREE and you will need to do this only once. Allow at least 48 hours for site administrators to respond to your request to join the site. Out-of-Sight.net uses the Talking communities conference/chat room client. If you haven't used this conference room before, you will need to download a small plug-in to be able to fully participate in the conference. It is recommended that you have a high speed internet connection for the best result. If you have any further questions, feel free to post them here to the list. Hope to see you all there! Milton Ota National Federation of the Blind _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net From steve.jacobson at visi.com Fri Sep 23 01:11:53 2011 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:11:53 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] New Drawing Tool In-Reply-To: <4E7BD49F.9030803@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Just to clarify, the drawing program was written using the SWT library of Java, so the Windows Access Bridge is not required for this program to run. It will run with a Windows screen reader, and I have run it with Window-Eyes and it seems to work. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:36:47 -0700, Marvin Hunkin wrote: >hi. >if you visit http://www.dickbaldwin.com, got this program link from the >top tid bits from http://top.enterprises.com >and it is a accessible java based drawing tool for the blind. >he is a university student. >and so it is fully accessible. >it comes in a zip file. >and you need the latest or a recent java jre or sdk, and java access bridge. >cool, i have always wanted to create data flow diagrams, flow charts, >for my help desk course, and computer programming. >and also to design a story board for my blindness related site, for my >website development course. >well i was able to start a new drawing, and able to create a line control. >real cool. >check it out. >Marvin. >_______________________________________________ >Nfb-web mailing list >Nfb-web at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com From GWunder at earthlink.net Fri Sep 23 15:22:59 2011 From: GWunder at earthlink.net (Gary Wunder) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:22:59 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri In-Reply-To: <201109061037.1r0WMgRZ3Nl34k0@mx-avoceta.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <5D006AF281734BC38F4566C615887DDB@GaryWunderPC> <201109061037.1r0WMgRZ3Nl34k0@mx-avoceta.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <9E82BC46981E42E99D78FF2865CC9921@GaryWunderPC> Michael, are you considering being on the conference tomorrow afternoon? Your comments would be most helpful. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:35 AM To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi, I recently joined this list, I have a few websites and such. I was going to write an intro, but I thought I would say hi in this message. I do php and MySQL stuff. I can do a little html and .css, but I prefer to hire most of that out. I need to start learning more though. I have been using word press for a few years now, and I update my own content and stuff. I install the Ozh admin drop down menu plugin. This makes the admin menus easier to navigate for me, it expands all the menus, so you know what you have to work with. In the profile for the users that will be posting, I ? Disable the visual editor when writing. There is a screen options button on many screens, this allows you to remove stuff from screens you might not want to worry about. In the add new post area, I change it to use a 1 column layout. Jaws seems to navigate it better for me. The options usually appear above the screen options link you entered on. I find it easier to write my post in notepad, and add in any extra html tags that might be needed. Otherwise, it is probably best to add your tags first, then go in to the post box, and insert the text between the tags. So if you want something bold, type until you get to that point, get out of forms mode and find the b button for bolding, enter on this button twice. Once for the opening tag, and the second time to put the closing tag. Go back to the post edit box and find the tags, for bold it would be . Between the <> enter your text. Note: there are less than, greater than, and a slash in the html tags above, encase your punctuation reading is off. Hope that helps you out some. Michael -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi Mike. Thank you for honorable mention of our website. We are in something of a bind because we have paid a gentleman to use WordPress to make our site more attractive, but we now need help in learning how to maintain it ourselves. WordPress seems to suffer from the frailty we've seen in other web authoring tools. It relies on selecting text and then pressing buttons to do whatever one wishes with that text. For screen reader users the difficulty is that moving the cursor to find buttons once the text is selected causes it to become unselected. A person or two at our webmaster's meeting in July suggested that there are ways to make WordPress more accessible for those of us needing to manage content, and so we are hoping to have a class on that if we can. Until then Missouri is still reliant on our paid consultant. He is a very nice man and likes working with us, but he can't forever be expected to continue our updates, and we probably can't live with the delay inherent in having all of our web material updated by one person. If any of you have ideas you'd like to suggest, Missouri would be more than happy to have them. Again, I'm glad for the comments on our website, and I hope we can take it to a whole new level. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hansen Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:10 PM To: NFB Webmaster's List Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri All, Sometimes so that I don't get stuck in a rut, I will go and check out a few other NFB State websites to see how they do things. Well tonight I wandered over to the NFB of Missouri's website. I thought that it was both visually attractive and at first glance accessible. It seemed to be well organized and things were easy to find. If I had to say anything negative there might have been a couple alt tags missing but that was it. Very nice job Missouri I really liked what I saw and will come back again when we look at reorganizing our sites content. Check them out at: http://nfbmo.org/ Mike --- Mike Hansen NFB of Nebraska _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mbaldwin%40gpcom.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net From mota at hawaii.rr.com Fri Sep 23 20:27:38 2011 From: mota at hawaii.rr.com (Milton Ota) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:27:38 -1000 Subject: [Nfb-web] Web Accessibility Resources Now Available Message-ID: <000001cc7a2f$3d56ebe0$b804c3a0$@rr.com> To those who are waiting for information from the Web Accessibility Seminiar held on Monday September 19, 2011 at the National Center can now download a .zip file at: http://nfb.org/webaccessibility/ From mbaldwin at gpcom.net Fri Sep 23 20:45:29 2011 From: mbaldwin at gpcom.net (Michael Baldwin) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:45:29 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri In-Reply-To: <9E82BC46981E42E99D78FF2865CC9921@GaryWunderPC> Message-ID: Hi, I guess I never gave it a thought, what is the conference info again? I can see if the time works out for me. Michael -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:23 To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Michael, are you considering being on the conference tomorrow afternoon? Your comments would be most helpful. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:35 AM To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi, I recently joined this list, I have a few websites and such. I was going to write an intro, but I thought I would say hi in this message. I do php and MySQL stuff. I can do a little html and .css, but I prefer to hire most of that out. I need to start learning more though. I have been using word press for a few years now, and I update my own content and stuff. I install the Ozh admin drop down menu plugin. This makes the admin menus easier to navigate for me, it expands all the menus, so you know what you have to work with. In the profile for the users that will be posting, I ? Disable the visual editor when writing. There is a screen options button on many screens, this allows you to remove stuff from screens you might not want to worry about. In the add new post area, I change it to use a 1 column layout. Jaws seems to navigate it better for me. The options usually appear above the screen options link you entered on. I find it easier to write my post in notepad, and add in any extra html tags that might be needed. Otherwise, it is probably best to add your tags first, then go in to the post box, and insert the text between the tags. So if you want something bold, type until you get to that point, get out of forms mode and find the b button for bolding, enter on this button twice. Once for the opening tag, and the second time to put the closing tag. Go back to the post edit box and find the tags, for bold it would be . Between the <> enter your text. Note: there are less than, greater than, and a slash in the html tags above, encase your punctuation reading is off. Hope that helps you out some. Michael -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi Mike. Thank you for honorable mention of our website. We are in something of a bind because we have paid a gentleman to use WordPress to make our site more attractive, but we now need help in learning how to maintain it ourselves. WordPress seems to suffer from the frailty we've seen in other web authoring tools. It relies on selecting text and then pressing buttons to do whatever one wishes with that text. For screen reader users the difficulty is that moving the cursor to find buttons once the text is selected causes it to become unselected. A person or two at our webmaster's meeting in July suggested that there are ways to make WordPress more accessible for those of us needing to manage content, and so we are hoping to have a class on that if we can. Until then Missouri is still reliant on our paid consultant. He is a very nice man and likes working with us, but he can't forever be expected to continue our updates, and we probably can't live with the delay inherent in having all of our web material updated by one person. If any of you have ideas you'd like to suggest, Missouri would be more than happy to have them. Again, I'm glad for the comments on our website, and I hope we can take it to a whole new level. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hansen Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:10 PM To: NFB Webmaster's List Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri All, Sometimes so that I don't get stuck in a rut, I will go and check out a few other NFB State websites to see how they do things. Well tonight I wandered over to the NFB of Missouri's website. I thought that it was both visually attractive and at first glance accessible. It seemed to be well organized and things were easy to find. If I had to say anything negative there might have been a couple alt tags missing but that was it. Very nice job Missouri I really liked what I saw and will come back again when we look at reorganizing our sites content. Check them out at: http://nfbmo.org/ Mike --- Mike Hansen NFB of Nebraska _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mbaldwin%40gpcom.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mbaldwin%40gpcom.net From mota at hawaii.rr.com Fri Sep 23 21:36:34 2011 From: mota at hawaii.rr.com (Milton Ota) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:36:34 -1000 Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri In-Reply-To: <8A.FE.13937.720FC7E4@hrndva-mxlb.mail.rr.com> References: <9E82BC46981E42E99D78FF2865CC9921@GaryWunderPC> <8A.FE.13937.720FC7E4@hrndva-mxlb.mail.rr.com> Message-ID: <000601cc7a38$de158010$9a408030$@rr.com> The NFB Webmasters Conference and Training is scheduled for Saturday, September 24 beginning at 3:00 PM Eastern Time, (2:00 PM Central, 1:00 PM Mountain and 12:00 PM Noon Pacific Time). You will need to register with the website Out-of-Sight by going to http://out-of-sight.net Allow 24 to 48 hours for someone to confirm your registration. If you have never used the Talking Community Conference Room client, there is a small plug-in that needs to be downloaded and it can be downloaded from the Out-of-sight website. For the best results it is recommended that you have a high speed Internet connection. If you miss the session, it will be recorded and made available for download from http://nfb-web.nfb.org/ To be able to participate in the discussion, it is recommended that you have a microphone speakers. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me at: (808) 734-0612 -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:45 AM To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi, I guess I never gave it a thought, what is the conference info again? I can see if the time works out for me. Michael -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:23 To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Michael, are you considering being on the conference tomorrow afternoon? Your comments would be most helpful. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:35 AM To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi, I recently joined this list, I have a few websites and such. I was going to write an intro, but I thought I would say hi in this message. I do php and MySQL stuff. I can do a little html and .css, but I prefer to hire most of that out. I need to start learning more though. I have been using word press for a few years now, and I update my own content and stuff. I install the Ozh admin drop down menu plugin. This makes the admin menus easier to navigate for me, it expands all the menus, so you know what you have to work with. In the profile for the users that will be posting, I ? Disable the visual editor when writing. There is a screen options button on many screens, this allows you to remove stuff from screens you might not want to worry about. In the add new post area, I change it to use a 1 column layout. Jaws seems to navigate it better for me. The options usually appear above the screen options link you entered on. I find it easier to write my post in notepad, and add in any extra html tags that might be needed. Otherwise, it is probably best to add your tags first, then go in to the post box, and insert the text between the tags. So if you want something bold, type until you get to that point, get out of forms mode and find the b button for bolding, enter on this button twice. Once for the opening tag, and the second time to put the closing tag. Go back to the post edit box and find the tags, for bold it would be . Between the <> enter your text. Note: there are less than, greater than, and a slash in the html tags above, encase your punctuation reading is off. Hope that helps you out some. Michael -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi Mike. Thank you for honorable mention of our website. We are in something of a bind because we have paid a gentleman to use WordPress to make our site more attractive, but we now need help in learning how to maintain it ourselves. WordPress seems to suffer from the frailty we've seen in other web authoring tools. It relies on selecting text and then pressing buttons to do whatever one wishes with that text. For screen reader users the difficulty is that moving the cursor to find buttons once the text is selected causes it to become unselected. A person or two at our webmaster's meeting in July suggested that there are ways to make WordPress more accessible for those of us needing to manage content, and so we are hoping to have a class on that if we can. Until then Missouri is still reliant on our paid consultant. He is a very nice man and likes working with us, but he can't forever be expected to continue our updates, and we probably can't live with the delay inherent in having all of our web material updated by one person. If any of you have ideas you'd like to suggest, Missouri would be more than happy to have them. Again, I'm glad for the comments on our website, and I hope we can take it to a whole new level. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hansen Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:10 PM To: NFB Webmaster's List Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri All, Sometimes so that I don't get stuck in a rut, I will go and check out a few other NFB State websites to see how they do things. Well tonight I wandered over to the NFB of Missouri's website. I thought that it was both visually attractive and at first glance accessible. It seemed to be well organized and things were easy to find. If I had to say anything negative there might have been a couple alt tags missing but that was it. Very nice job Missouri I really liked what I saw and will come back again when we look at reorganizing our sites content. Check them out at: http://nfbmo.org/ Mike --- Mike Hansen NFB of Nebraska _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mbaldwin%40gpcom.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mbaldwin%40gpcom.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mota%40hawaii.rr.com From mbaldwin at gpcom.net Sat Sep 24 01:41:27 2011 From: mbaldwin at gpcom.net (Michael Baldwin) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:41:27 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri In-Reply-To: <000601cc7a38$de158010$9a408030$@rr.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Looks like I probably won't be able to attend. I could probably put something together for the next one, if Word Press would be a good topic. Michael -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Milton Ota Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 16:37 To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri The NFB Webmasters Conference and Training is scheduled for Saturday, September 24 beginning at 3:00 PM Eastern Time, (2:00 PM Central, 1:00 PM Mountain and 12:00 PM Noon Pacific Time). You will need to register with the website Out-of-Sight by going to http://out-of-sight.net Allow 24 to 48 hours for someone to confirm your registration. If you have never used the Talking Community Conference Room client, there is a small plug-in that needs to be downloaded and it can be downloaded from the Out-of-sight website. For the best results it is recommended that you have a high speed Internet connection. If you miss the session, it will be recorded and made available for download from http://nfb-web.nfb.org/ To be able to participate in the discussion, it is recommended that you have a microphone speakers. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me at: (808) 734-0612 -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:45 AM To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi, I guess I never gave it a thought, what is the conference info again? I can see if the time works out for me. Michael -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:23 To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Michael, are you considering being on the conference tomorrow afternoon? Your comments would be most helpful. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:35 AM To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi, I recently joined this list, I have a few websites and such. I was going to write an intro, but I thought I would say hi in this message. I do php and MySQL stuff. I can do a little html and .css, but I prefer to hire most of that out. I need to start learning more though. I have been using word press for a few years now, and I update my own content and stuff. I install the Ozh admin drop down menu plugin. This makes the admin menus easier to navigate for me, it expands all the menus, so you know what you have to work with. In the profile for the users that will be posting, I ? Disable the visual editor when writing. There is a screen options button on many screens, this allows you to remove stuff from screens you might not want to worry about. In the add new post area, I change it to use a 1 column layout. Jaws seems to navigate it better for me. The options usually appear above the screen options link you entered on. I find it easier to write my post in notepad, and add in any extra html tags that might be needed. Otherwise, it is probably best to add your tags first, then go in to the post box, and insert the text between the tags. So if you want something bold, type until you get to that point, get out of forms mode and find the b button for bolding, enter on this button twice. Once for the opening tag, and the second time to put the closing tag. Go back to the post edit box and find the tags, for bold it would be . Between the <> enter your text. Note: there are less than, greater than, and a slash in the html tags above, encase your punctuation reading is off. Hope that helps you out some. Michael -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi Mike. Thank you for honorable mention of our website. We are in something of a bind because we have paid a gentleman to use WordPress to make our site more attractive, but we now need help in learning how to maintain it ourselves. WordPress seems to suffer from the frailty we've seen in other web authoring tools. It relies on selecting text and then pressing buttons to do whatever one wishes with that text. For screen reader users the difficulty is that moving the cursor to find buttons once the text is selected causes it to become unselected. A person or two at our webmaster's meeting in July suggested that there are ways to make WordPress more accessible for those of us needing to manage content, and so we are hoping to have a class on that if we can. Until then Missouri is still reliant on our paid consultant. He is a very nice man and likes working with us, but he can't forever be expected to continue our updates, and we probably can't live with the delay inherent in having all of our web material updated by one person. If any of you have ideas you'd like to suggest, Missouri would be more than happy to have them. Again, I'm glad for the comments on our website, and I hope we can take it to a whole new level. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hansen Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:10 PM To: NFB Webmaster's List Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri All, Sometimes so that I don't get stuck in a rut, I will go and check out a few other NFB State websites to see how they do things. Well tonight I wandered over to the NFB of Missouri's website. I thought that it was both visually attractive and at first glance accessible. It seemed to be well organized and things were easy to find. If I had to say anything negative there might have been a couple alt tags missing but that was it. Very nice job Missouri I really liked what I saw and will come back again when we look at reorganizing our sites content. Check them out at: http://nfbmo.org/ Mike --- Mike Hansen NFB of Nebraska _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mbaldwin%40gpcom.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mbaldwin%40gpcom.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mota%40hawaii.rr.com _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mbaldwin%40gpcom.net From mota at hawaii.rr.com Sat Sep 24 02:24:01 2011 From: mota at hawaii.rr.com (Milton Ota) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:24:01 -1000 Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri In-Reply-To: <0E.70.06550.5753D7E4@hrndva-mxlb.mail.rr.com> References: <000601cc7a38$de158010$9a408030$@rr.com> <0E.70.06550.5753D7E4@hrndva-mxlb.mail.rr.com> Message-ID: <000c01cc7a61$066991a0$133cb4e0$@rr.com> I'll get back to you regarding doing a training session on Word Press as Michael Hansen will be doing a series of sessions on different topics. Milton -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 3:41 PM To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Thanks, Looks like I probably won't be able to attend. I could probably put something together for the next one, if Word Press would be a good topic. Michael -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Milton Ota Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 16:37 To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri The NFB Webmasters Conference and Training is scheduled for Saturday, September 24 beginning at 3:00 PM Eastern Time, (2:00 PM Central, 1:00 PM Mountain and 12:00 PM Noon Pacific Time). You will need to register with the website Out-of-Sight by going to http://out-of-sight.net Allow 24 to 48 hours for someone to confirm your registration. If you have never used the Talking Community Conference Room client, there is a small plug-in that needs to be downloaded and it can be downloaded from the Out-of-sight website. For the best results it is recommended that you have a high speed Internet connection. If you miss the session, it will be recorded and made available for download from http://nfb-web.nfb.org/ To be able to participate in the discussion, it is recommended that you have a microphone speakers. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me at: (808) 734-0612 -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:45 AM To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi, I guess I never gave it a thought, what is the conference info again? I can see if the time works out for me. Michael -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:23 To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Michael, are you considering being on the conference tomorrow afternoon? Your comments would be most helpful. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:35 AM To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi, I recently joined this list, I have a few websites and such. I was going to write an intro, but I thought I would say hi in this message. I do php and MySQL stuff. I can do a little html and .css, but I prefer to hire most of that out. I need to start learning more though. I have been using word press for a few years now, and I update my own content and stuff. I install the Ozh admin drop down menu plugin. This makes the admin menus easier to navigate for me, it expands all the menus, so you know what you have to work with. In the profile for the users that will be posting, I ? Disable the visual editor when writing. There is a screen options button on many screens, this allows you to remove stuff from screens you might not want to worry about. In the add new post area, I change it to use a 1 column layout. Jaws seems to navigate it better for me. The options usually appear above the screen options link you entered on. I find it easier to write my post in notepad, and add in any extra html tags that might be needed. Otherwise, it is probably best to add your tags first, then go in to the post box, and insert the text between the tags. So if you want something bold, type until you get to that point, get out of forms mode and find the b button for bolding, enter on this button twice. Once for the opening tag, and the second time to put the closing tag. Go back to the post edit box and find the tags, for bold it would be . Between the <> enter your text. Note: there are less than, greater than, and a slash in the html tags above, encase your punctuation reading is off. Hope that helps you out some. Michael -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi Mike. Thank you for honorable mention of our website. We are in something of a bind because we have paid a gentleman to use WordPress to make our site more attractive, but we now need help in learning how to maintain it ourselves. WordPress seems to suffer from the frailty we've seen in other web authoring tools. It relies on selecting text and then pressing buttons to do whatever one wishes with that text. For screen reader users the difficulty is that moving the cursor to find buttons once the text is selected causes it to become unselected. A person or two at our webmaster's meeting in July suggested that there are ways to make WordPress more accessible for those of us needing to manage content, and so we are hoping to have a class on that if we can. Until then Missouri is still reliant on our paid consultant. He is a very nice man and likes working with us, but he can't forever be expected to continue our updates, and we probably can't live with the delay inherent in having all of our web material updated by one person. If any of you have ideas you'd like to suggest, Missouri would be more than happy to have them. Again, I'm glad for the comments on our website, and I hope we can take it to a whole new level. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hansen Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:10 PM To: NFB Webmaster's List Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri All, Sometimes so that I don't get stuck in a rut, I will go and check out a few other NFB State websites to see how they do things. Well tonight I wandered over to the NFB of Missouri's website. I thought that it was both visually attractive and at first glance accessible. It seemed to be well organized and things were easy to find. If I had to say anything negative there might have been a couple alt tags missing but that was it. Very nice job Missouri I really liked what I saw and will come back again when we look at reorganizing our sites content. Check them out at: http://nfbmo.org/ Mike --- Mike Hansen NFB of Nebraska _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mbaldwin%40gpcom.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mbaldwin%40gpcom.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mota%40hawaii.rr.com _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mbaldwin%40gpcom.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mota%40hawaii.rr.com From blind at trailstone.com Sat Sep 24 09:14:28 2011 From: blind at trailstone.com (Graham Mehl) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 05:14:28 -0400 Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri In-Reply-To: <000601cc7a38$de158010$9a408030$@rr.com> References: <9E82BC46981E42E99D78FF2865CC9921@GaryWunderPC> <8A.FE.13937.720FC7E4@hrndva-mxlb.mail.rr.com> <000601cc7a38$de158010$9a408030$@rr.com> Message-ID: <003101cc7a9a$615ed960$241c8c20$@com> Hi Milton, I was so looking forward to the session today. I really enjoyed the time last month. Unfortunately I am attending a conference all day today. Some final details allowing me to attend the conference worked out less then an hour before it started yesterday. I already cannot wait to listen to the archive. -- Graham -----Original Message----- From: Milton Ota [mailto:mota at hawaii.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 5:37 PM To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri The NFB Webmasters Conference and Training is scheduled for Saturday, September 24 beginning at 3:00 PM Eastern Time, (2:00 PM Central, 1:00 PM Mountain and 12:00 PM Noon Pacific Time). You will need to register with the website Out-of-Sight by going to http://out-of-sight.net Allow 24 to 48 hours for someone to confirm your registration. If you have never used the Talking Community Conference Room client, there is a small plug-in that needs to be downloaded and it can be downloaded from the Out-of-sight website. For the best results it is recommended that you have a high speed Internet connection. If you miss the session, it will be recorded and made available for download from http://nfb-web.nfb.org/ To be able to participate in the discussion, it is recommended that you have a microphone speakers. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me at: (808) 734-0612 -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:45 AM To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi, I guess I never gave it a thought, what is the conference info again? I can see if the time works out for me. Michael -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:23 To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Michael, are you considering being on the conference tomorrow afternoon? Your comments would be most helpful. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:35 AM To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi, I recently joined this list, I have a few websites and such. I was going to write an intro, but I thought I would say hi in this message. I do php and MySQL stuff. I can do a little html and .css, but I prefer to hire most of that out. I need to start learning more though. I have been using word press for a few years now, and I update my own content and stuff. I install the Ozh admin drop down menu plugin. This makes the admin menus easier to navigate for me, it expands all the menus, so you know what you have to work with. In the profile for the users that will be posting, I ? Disable the visual editor when writing. There is a screen options button on many screens, this allows you to remove stuff from screens you might not want to worry about. In the add new post area, I change it to use a 1 column layout. Jaws seems to navigate it better for me. The options usually appear above the screen options link you entered on. I find it easier to write my post in notepad, and add in any extra html tags that might be needed. Otherwise, it is probably best to add your tags first, then go in to the post box, and insert the text between the tags. So if you want something bold, type until you get to that point, get out of forms mode and find the b button for bolding, enter on this button twice. Once for the opening tag, and the second time to put the closing tag. Go back to the post edit box and find the tags, for bold it would be . Between the <> enter your text. Note: there are less than, greater than, and a slash in the html tags above, encase your punctuation reading is off. Hope that helps you out some. Michael -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:14 To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri Hi Mike. Thank you for honorable mention of our website. We are in something of a bind because we have paid a gentleman to use WordPress to make our site more attractive, but we now need help in learning how to maintain it ourselves. WordPress seems to suffer from the frailty we've seen in other web authoring tools. It relies on selecting text and then pressing buttons to do whatever one wishes with that text. For screen reader users the difficulty is that moving the cursor to find buttons once the text is selected causes it to become unselected. A person or two at our webmaster's meeting in July suggested that there are ways to make WordPress more accessible for those of us needing to manage content, and so we are hoping to have a class on that if we can. Until then Missouri is still reliant on our paid consultant. He is a very nice man and likes working with us, but he can't forever be expected to continue our updates, and we probably can't live with the delay inherent in having all of our web material updated by one person. If any of you have ideas you'd like to suggest, Missouri would be more than happy to have them. Again, I'm glad for the comments on our website, and I hope we can take it to a whole new level. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hansen Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:10 PM To: NFB Webmaster's List Subject: [Nfb-web] Kudos to Missouri All, Sometimes so that I don't get stuck in a rut, I will go and check out a few other NFB State websites to see how they do things. Well tonight I wandered over to the NFB of Missouri's website. I thought that it was both visually attractive and at first glance accessible. It seemed to be well organized and things were easy to find. If I had to say anything negative there might have been a couple alt tags missing but that was it. Very nice job Missouri I really liked what I saw and will come back again when we look at reorganizing our sites content. Check them out at: http://nfbmo.org/ Mike --- Mike Hansen NFB of Nebraska _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mbaldwin%40gpcom.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mbaldwin%40gpcom.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mota%40hawaii.rr.com _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/blind%40trailstone.com From mota at hawaii.rr.com Mon Sep 26 17:30:38 2011 From: mota at hawaii.rr.com (Milton Ota) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 07:30:38 -1000 Subject: [Nfb-web] 9/24/2011 Conference & Training Recording Now Available Message-ID: <000301cc7c72$027b6920$07723b60$@rr.com> To all Interested Webmasters: A recording of the Saturday, September 24 Conference and Training is now available for either listening or download in .MP3 from the following: http://nfb-web.nfb.org/ You must have a username and password to log-in. If you were unable to attend the last session, another one is being scheduled. Watch this list for date and time, and the subject matter. We plan to hold these conferendceand training sessions on a monthly basis . If you haven't signed up for an account at the "Out-of-Sight" website, go to: http://out-of-sight.net/ Select the link "Join" and allow 24 to 48 hours for someone to confirm your registration. Once you have been approved, you will need to download a small plug-in for your browser to be able to use the Talking community Conference Room client. For participation it is best to have a high speed Internet connection, and a headset with a boom microphone. These headset with a boom microphone run from about $30.00 and can be found at your favorite computer store. Remember, the room is available 24/7 so if you want to arrange a meeting to discuss something or hold a group meeting, just go ahead. If you have questions, either contact Gary Wunder or myself. From dave.mehler at gmail.com Wed Sep 28 16:01:54 2011 From: dave.mehler at gmail.com (David Mehler) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:01:54 -0400 Subject: [Nfb-web] any podcasts on drupal7? Message-ID: Hello, Does anyone know if there are any podcasts out there specific to drupal7? I'm looking for a kind of a mix between new features of, setup, and a getting started with combo. Thanks. Dave. From mhansen4 at gmail.com Wed Sep 28 17:02:09 2011 From: mhansen4 at gmail.com (Michael Hansen) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:02:09 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] any podcasts on drupal7? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Podcasts I am not sure. I do know that there is a bunch of Drupal stuff on YouTube thoguh. --- Mike Hansen On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:01 AM, David Mehler wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know if there are any podcasts out there specific to > drupal7? I'm looking for a kind of a mix between new features of, > setup, and a getting started with combo. > > Thanks. > Dave. > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mhansen4%40gmail.com > From dandrews at visi.com Thu Sep 29 02:44:36 2011 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:44:36 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] Drupal 7 on nfbnet.org server In-Reply-To: <1316637027.2154.140.camel@Tami-Pangolin-Performance> References: <1316637027.2154.140.camel@Tami-Pangolin-Performance> Message-ID: If there is still anything missing, let me know and we will look into it. I know in the past I wasn't always as responsive as I could have been, but I will try to do better. I have had some success in solving some problems, and missing things for Mike, and also once again have somebody who can help with the Linux under-the-hood things that are over my head, so we should be able to get most things working. Dave At 03:30 PM 9/21/2011, you wrote: >Mike, > >I gave Drupal 7 a shot when it first came out and ran into the same >problem -- a missing php component. So decided to stick with what I have >-- latest 6.2x -- to get work done instead of playing around, thinking I >could come back to play later... Haven't got there yet, so does that >mean it's not later? /grin/ >You mention dealing with missing php components with a .ini file? I seem >to need the GD image library component and cannot for the life of me >figure out how to work around that need... Which could easily just be >me. > >Do you know of a way I could make images work for me? > >Please do keep us all informed about what you find out about using >Drupal 7, since I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to know. >Er.. Unless there's somebody who has already replied that does know. Or >you've created a sandbox we can play in. Cool! . /smile/ > >Tami > >On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 14:50 -0500, Michael Hansen wrote: > > Is anyone running Drupal 7 on the nfbnet.org server? I tried to set it > > up last night and found that a required PHP commponent is missing. I > > think I might be able to get around it with a local php.ini file but I > > thought I would ask first if any one has gotten it up and going yet. > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > --- > > Mike Hansen From GWunder at earthlink.net Thu Sep 29 13:14:11 2011 From: GWunder at earthlink.net (Gary Wunder) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:14:11 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] FW: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox Message-ID: <8FE0229F315A4C1C81E4D0FCDF5C8221@GaryWunderPC> -----Original Message----- From: nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of DanFlasar at aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:27 AM To: nfbmo at nfbnet.org Subject: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox Hi all, Does anyone know of a public domain screenreader that I can use w/ Google Chrome or Firefox? JAWS doesn't support either browser and IE9 is just way too slow. Thanks, Dan _______________________________________________ Nfbmo mailing list Nfbmo at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbmo_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfbmo: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbmo_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net From zia7 at cdc.gov Thu Sep 29 14:23:45 2011 From: zia7 at cdc.gov (Senk, Mark J. (CDC/NIOSH/NPPTL)) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:23:45 +0000 Subject: [Nfb-web] FW: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox In-Reply-To: <8FE0229F315A4C1C81E4D0FCDF5C8221@GaryWunderPC> References: <8FE0229F315A4C1C81E4D0FCDF5C8221@GaryWunderPC> Message-ID: Firefox 5 and 6 worked fairly well with JFW 12 - Give it a try. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:14 AM To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'; 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: [Nfb-web] FW: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox -----Original Message----- From: nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of DanFlasar at aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:27 AM To: nfbmo at nfbnet.org Subject: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox Hi all, Does anyone know of a public domain screenreader that I can use w/ Google Chrome or Firefox? JAWS doesn't support either browser and IE9 is just way too slow. Thanks, Dan _______________________________________________ Nfbmo mailing list Nfbmo at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbmo_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfbmo: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbmo_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/zia7%40cdc.gov From steve.jacobson at visi.com Thu Sep 29 14:21:27 2011 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:21:27 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] FW: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox In-Reply-To: <8FE0229F315A4C1C81E4D0FCDF5C8221@GaryWunderPC> Message-ID: It is my understanding that there is some support for Chrome and for Firefox in NVDA. I think the Chrome support is still evolving, though, so Firefox may be a better choice. I do not have personal experience with either, though. There are a number of reasons that IE 9 may not be working well with JFW, but I've never heard anyone say it was slow, and is it really true that JFW doesn't support FireFox? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:14:11 -0500, Gary Wunder wrote: > >-----Original Message----- >From: nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf >Of DanFlasar at aol.com >Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:27 AM >To: nfbmo at nfbnet.org >Subject: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox >Hi all, > Does anyone know of a public domain screenreader that I can use w/ >Google Chrome or Firefox? JAWS doesn't support either browser and IE9 is >just >way too slow. >Thanks, >Dan > >_______________________________________________ >Nfbmo mailing list >Nfbmo at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbmo_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfbmo: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbmo_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net >_______________________________________________ >Nfb-web mailing list >Nfb-web at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com From tamara.8024 at comcast.net Thu Sep 29 14:32:24 2011 From: tamara.8024 at comcast.net (Tami Kinney) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:32:24 -0700 Subject: [Nfb-web] Drupal 7 on nfbnet.org server In-Reply-To: References: <1316637027.2154.140.camel@Tami-Pangolin-Performance> Message-ID: <1317306744.7455.36.camel@Tami-Pangolin-Performance> Way to go, Dave. Love Linux, but learning the under the hood stuff with a screen reader is quite a project! Well, for server administration, using speech with no braille display is just crazy-making. /lol/ I'm getting the surface stuff on my new system pretty well under my belt, but the advanced stuff is coming more slowly and is a real adventure. And a bit of a full-time occupation for now. Would take forever if I had a day job... /smile/ So I was going to ask for an assist privately, but in case someone else has encountered this, I'll ask here. So here goes. I have managed to convince the NAGDU website to ban my IP address and now need to have myself removed from the ban list so I can work on it. Well, as near as I can tell, that is what has happened. Er... I will send you the IP address privately, if that's all right. I'm also mucking around with my router and modem a bit to see if that helps. Here's the history of the problem. It's a bit vague because I'm just not sure exactly how I managed to cause the problem. Sorry. I've tried a couple of times setting up Filezilla on Linux to connect to the NAGDU site for file transfer and all that. Also, I've tried going through the Network Configuration Wizard in Filezilla, and there's some sort of problem there, too, that seems to have to do with my Internet connection... So I'm using other programs and can connect just fine. But I tried Filezilla again because it's just so much more user and screen reader friendly. Now the site I need to work on is refusing to acknoledge even a good old fashioned connection through firefox to look at it. This is true for any computer in my home... So I don't know if it's something to do with Filezilla or if it's because I just happen to screw with Filezilla while my old Windows laptop is connected for my partner to work on... Turns out the thing has an infection, so it is now unplugged and turned off until I have time to deal with that! Good grief! So I now can't determine exactly what is happening on my end to make the website refuse to talk to me or acknowledge my existence. I ran a trace route, and the connection cuts off between your ISP and the server. The connection times out over and over with no response from the server. So it does seem that I have gotten myself banned for something. Since this has happened twice now when I attempt to use Filezilla, I can only conclude that I have not managed to figure out a super-easy program... Or something like that. Makes my day. Not! /smile/ Last time, the problem appeared to clear up when I had my modem reset. So I tried that this time and, well... Looks like I need your help to fix whatever I did wrong. Thanks for your help and all the good work you do keeping us all up and running. Tami On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 21:44 -0500, David Andrews wrote: > If there is still anything missing, let me know and we will look into > it. I know in the past I wasn't always as responsive as I could have > been, but I will try to do better. I have had some success in > solving some problems, and missing things for Mike, and also once > again have somebody who can help with the Linux under-the-hood things > that are over my head, so we should be able to get most things working. > > Dave > > At 03:30 PM 9/21/2011, you wrote: > >Mike, > > > >I gave Drupal 7 a shot when it first came out and ran into the same > >problem -- a missing php component. So decided to stick with what I have > >-- latest 6.2x -- to get work done instead of playing around, thinking I > >could come back to play later... Haven't got there yet, so does that > >mean it's not later? /grin/ > >You mention dealing with missing php components with a .ini file? I seem > >to need the GD image library component and cannot for the life of me > >figure out how to work around that need... Which could easily just be > >me. > > > >Do you know of a way I could make images work for me? > > > >Please do keep us all informed about what you find out about using > >Drupal 7, since I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to know. > >Er.. Unless there's somebody who has already replied that does know. Or > >you've created a sandbox we can play in. Cool! . /smile/ > > > >Tami > > > >On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 14:50 -0500, Michael Hansen wrote: > > > Is anyone running Drupal 7 on the nfbnet.org server? I tried to set it > > > up last night and found that a required PHP commponent is missing. I > > > think I might be able to get around it with a local php.ini file but I > > > thought I would ask first if any one has gotten it up and going yet. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Mike > > > --- > > > Mike Hansen > > > _______________________________________________ > Nfb-web mailing list > Nfb-web at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/tamara.8024%40comcast.net From mota at hawaii.rr.com Thu Sep 29 14:46:25 2011 From: mota at hawaii.rr.com (Milton Ota) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:46:25 -1000 Subject: [Nfb-web] FW: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox In-Reply-To: References: <8FE0229F315A4C1C81E4D0FCDF5C8221@GaryWunderPC> Message-ID: <000001cc7eb6$907d7330$b1785990$@rr.com> For firefox the latest build of JAWS works fine. I also saw something on the Freedom Scientific website in the What's New section of JAWS public beta 13 that there is some accessibility with Chrome. The public beta had a recent second release the other day. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:21 AM To: NFB Webmaster's List Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] FW: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox It is my understanding that there is some support for Chrome and for Firefox in NVDA. I think the Chrome support is still evolving, though, so Firefox may be a better choice. I do not have personal experience with either, though. There are a number of reasons that IE 9 may not be working well with JFW, but I've never heard anyone say it was slow, and is it really true that JFW doesn't support FireFox? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:14:11 -0500, Gary Wunder wrote: > >-----Original Message----- >From: nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf >Of DanFlasar at aol.com >Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:27 AM >To: nfbmo at nfbnet.org >Subject: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox >Hi all, > Does anyone know of a public domain screenreader that I can use w/ >Google Chrome or Firefox? JAWS doesn't support either browser and IE9 is >just >way too slow. >Thanks, >Dan > >_______________________________________________ >Nfbmo mailing list >Nfbmo at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbmo_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfbmo: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbmo_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net >_______________________________________________ >Nfb-web mailing list >Nfb-web at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi. com _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/mota%40hawaii.rr.com From GWunder at earthlink.net Thu Sep 29 19:21:19 2011 From: GWunder at earthlink.net (Gary Wunder) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:21:19 -0500 Subject: [Nfb-web] FW: FW: FW: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox Message-ID: _____ From: DanFlasar at aol.com [mailto:DanFlasar at aol.com] Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:45 PM To: gwunder at earthlink.net Subject: Re: FW: [Nfb-web] FW: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox Thanks,Mark! Man, the response I'm getting from y'all is phenomnenall Thanks to all who sent suggestions and tips! Dan In a message dated 9/29/2011 12:07:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, GWunder at earthlink.net writes: -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Senk, Mark J. (CDC/NIOSH/NPPTL) Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:24 AM To: NFB Webmaster's List Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] FW: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox Firefox 5 and 6 worked fairly well with JFW 12 - Give it a try. -----Original Message----- From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wunder Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:14 AM To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'; 'NFB Webmaster's List' Subject: [Nfb-web] FW: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox -----Original Message----- From: nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of DanFlasar at aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:27 AM To: nfbmo at nfbnet.org Subject: [Nfbmo] Screenreaders for Google Chrome and Firefox Hi all, Does anyone know of a public domain screenreader that I can use w/ Google Chrome or Firefox? JAWS doesn't support either browser and IE9 is just way too slow. Thanks, Dan _______________________________________________ Nfbmo mailing list Nfbmo at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbmo_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfbmo: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbmo_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/zia7%40cdc.gov _______________________________________________ Nfb-web mailing list Nfb-web at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-web_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Nfb-web: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-web_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.net