[Nfb-web] FW: Notes from last meeting and Webmasters Meeting Agenda

Littlefield, Tyler tyler at tysdomain.com
Tue Jun 28 19:35:26 UTC 2016


Hello,
I want to mirror some of what has already been said. Generally 
affiliates do not pay their other board positions. While this may be a 
great step into the web design market, if the affiliate does not pay for 
web design then there's not to many other options. If you want work, 
simply do not volunteer for the affiliates who do not pay or request 
payment and leave it alone if they decide not to pay you. Affiliates not 
paying for webmasters is not a mark of the NFB, it's up to that 
individual affiliate and their available funding. Putting limitations on 
webmasters who will be hired or volunteer after you have parted ways, 
regardless of the stipulations is in general bad business; there really 
are two scenarios that I can see in either way. first, you were hired 
and the affiliate chose to either not pay you anymore or you chose not 
to work for the affiliate, in which case you rendered services, they 
were paid for and what they do with the website after that is their own 
business. Second, you volunteered and they paid you nothing, in which 
case they are even less beholden to you because you provided the 
services free, of your own choice.

If you are a good web developer with the skillset to build any website, 
I recommend you look elsewhere for opportunities. It is clear that you 
find working for affiliates distasteful; if you are of the caliber you 
believe yourself, finding work outside of affiliates should be no 
problem in any case.
On 6/28/2016 3:28 PM, Steve Jacobson via Nfb-web wrote:
> Peter,
>
> As I am sure you know, there are many websites outside of our organization that have volunteer webmasters.  It depends upon who might be available and willing to volunteer and how complex the needs are.  I am sorry that you feel you were mistreated, but I don't see why being a webmaster should be such a lofty position as to never be done by volunteers.  I'm not saying that a webmaster should never be paid, just that it will depend on a number of variables, and many of us volunteer time to do things for which we might get paid in difference circumstances because we think it is worth it.
>
> I also think we need to do the best we can to make our websites accessible, but as mentioned in another message, I'm seeing cases where some issues may not be accessibility-related in general but have more to do with the interaction between specific screen readers and web browsers.  This is something I think we are going to have to understand better.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-web [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter Donahue via Nfb-web
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 11:56 AM
> To: NFB Webmaster's List <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] FW: Notes from last meeting and Webmasters Meeting Agenda
>
> Good morning again everyone,
>
>      The NFB holds itself as the standard barer when it comes to
> application and Web accessibility. As such it should walk the walk not
> just talk the talk and then jump all over those that expose this
> weakness. If the NFB and others championing Web accessibility would
> insure that their Websites are models of accessibility they need to do
> so. It's one thing to talk about but another to do it particularly when
> your name and reputation are on the line.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
>
> Littlefield, Tyler via Nfb-web wrote:
>> I'm not really sure how this is different from a guy whose website
>> consists of tons of unlabeled screenshots. That's not all that
>> accessible either.
>> On 6/28/2016 11:34 AM, Gabe Vega via Nfb-web wrote:
>>> This organization has income of millions of dollars per year and this
>>> is the most Mickey Mouse operation I ever heard of. Give me a break.
>>> nd still using Drupal? Word press excess ability out beats Drupal any
>>> day. It's a shame that this is all we get. From a great rich
>>> organization
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Bryan Schulz via Nfb-web
>>>> <nfb-web at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the drupal template,
>>>> Why does it take so long to actually get the template after it is
>>>> announced on lists?
>>>> How easy is it for state webmasters to tweak it to make their own
>>>> changes?
>>>> Why would the national office send out a template that uses combo
>>>> lists not accessible by jaws users?
>>>> Why can't the national office have training sessions in various
>>>> cities to provide training instead of ending up with sites that
>>>> continually have problems caused by volunteers who struggle to make
>>>> it work when they don't completely know what to fix?
>>>> Perhaps these are just local irks.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Nfb-web [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary
>>>> Wunder via Nfb-web
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 5:35 AM
>>>> To: nfb-web at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: Gary Wunder
>>>> Subject: [Nfb-web] FW: Notes from last meeting and Webmasters
>>>> Meeting Agenda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Michael Hansen [mailto:mhansen4 at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 9:06 PM
>>>> To: NFB Internet Support Team - Members
>>>> Subject: Notes from last meeting and Webmasters Meeting Agenda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We had a short meeting on Monday July 13th. We got an update on the
>>>> new Drupal / Word Press Affiliate web template. We also ran through
>>>> the agenda for the webmasters meeting. So as a quick reminder here
>>>> we go.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Logistics:
>>>>
>>>> -          The national office can provide a Mixer, Mic, Speaker
>>>> and, Laptop. Rachel will make this request of John Berggren.
>>>>
>>>> -          Gary Wunder will provide internet hot spot so that the
>>>> laptop will have internet access.
>>>>
>>>> -     Rachel will log the laptop into Skype on her account and Mike
>>>> Hansen will connect from Lincoln.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time and Location:
>>>>
>>>> 8:00 - 9:30 pm—WEBMASTERS MEETING
>>>>
>>>> Suwannee 20, Level 2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agenda:
>>>>
>>>> Plans for National Convention Webmasters Meeting:
>>>>
>>>> -          Topic Outline (1 and a half hours to fill)
>>>>
>>>> o   IST update
>>>>
>>>> §  Facebook Audit
>>>>
>>>> §  Website Template
>>>>
>>>> §  Legal Document
>>>>
>>>> o   Danielle Trevino - Discuss Affiliate Social Media accounts
>>>>
>>>> §  Facebook
>>>>
>>>> §  Twitter
>>>>
>>>> §  Possibly Periscope
>>>>
>>>> -          Solicit volunteer webmasters
>>>>
>>>> -          Discuss available resources
>>>>
>>>> -          Q & A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you everyone for you efforts and help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if anyone has any questions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Mike Hansen
>>>>
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