[Nfb-web] FW: Notes from last meeting and Webmasters Meeting Agenda
Littlefield, Tyler
tyler at tysdomain.com
Wed Jun 29 01:12:15 UTC 2016
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Hello Peter,
It seems you've got a bone to pick and feel like you were targetted
removed unjustly etc. What exactly gives the webmaster or this
committee the right to monitor the websites of affiliates? If the
webmaster's committee is going to oversee the appointment and removal
of webmasters, are they also going to insure that websites stay
updated (so no security issues), etc? How would you suggest a
framework like this be put in place and where would the money come
from to pay for such a task? Should every affiliate with a website
also be required to pay the webmaster's committee to hire people like
yourself who believe they are qualified when most can't afford a
webmaster to hold a paid position?
Thanks,
On 6/28/2016 7:37 PM, Peter Donahue via NFB-Web wrote:
> Good evening again everyone,
>
> I would also urge the Webmasters Committee to draft guidelines for
> affiliates to follow when recruiting and when necessary dismissing
> NFB Webmasters to insure that it is done ethically, that the
> reasons are valid, and to put in place a due-process procedure a
> Webmaster can follow should they feel they have been unjustly
> removed from servicing an affiliate Website.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
>
> Charles Buggs via NFB-Web wrote:
>> I also believe that we as an organization would be much better
>> served by having a distributed technology team and not requiring
>> people to live in Baltimore. Many companies now days are going to
>> distributed teams. With all due respect, Baltimore isn't known
>> for being a safe and family friendly city and I personally would
>> never live there.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:36 PM, Charles Buggs via NFB-Web
>>> <nfb-web at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I agree that the current NFB website is absolutely not a good
>>> user experience. In addition, we currently do not meet
>>> responsive design standards. Google announced last year they
>>> would begin punishing websites in search results who do not
>>> meet mobile standards, so we're not helping ourselves by having
>>> the current outdated theme which was created in 2007.
>>>
>>> I disagree that WordPress has better accessibility than
>>> Drupal, especially if we are talking about the newest version,
>>> Drupal 8. I was at a Drupal conference in the Twin Cities over
>>> the weekend and they focused on accessibility as one of their
>>> main topics. However, it was noted that the NFB and other
>>> disability organizations who use Drupal frequently do not
>>> contribute their expertise to the Drupal community, I am
>>> currently working on learning more about Drupal 8 and plan to
>>> participate in making it better.
>>>
>>> If we are talking about coding websites in HTML or having a
>>> very basic website then I agree that volunteers are capable of
>>> doing the job. However, if we are talking about complicated
>>> websites, which many are considered today, especially if you
>>> include mobile first design, event registration, and other
>>> aspects, then paid web developers are needed in my opinion. I
>>> have volunteered as webmaster in the past but I am scaling this
>>> back as my job and family life just have me too busy to do
>>> this. I have been told by fellow Drupal developers that they
>>> also don't do this anymore and charge a minimum of $40 per hour
>>> for web development, even for friends and nonprofit
>>> organization's.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Gabe Vega via NFB-Web
>>>> <nfb-web at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Exactly my point. The webmaster or web department our IT
>>>> department that the NFB have is atrocious. Look at their
>>>> current website it is the most God awful thing I've ever
>>>> experienced. You have to click about 15 times in order to
>>>> read one braille monitor issue. It's really awful but to keep
>>>> on topic. Here's another idea. Fix your own website before
>>>> you try and fix other websites and me. And I am really
>>>> staying on topic. Because excess ability is fine. But
>>>> usability is another thing. The NFB main website is not a
>>>> musical. It's a horrible user experience
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Bryan Schulz via Nfb-web
>>>>> <nfb-web at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> The only choice I didn't try was nvda. After a complaint,
>>>>> the webmaster changed the combo lists to something that
>>>>> jaws can navigate. This shouldn't have even been a problem
>>>>> if the webmaster tested work while using any flavor of
>>>>> speech! Bryan Schulz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Nfb-web
>>>>> [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>>>>> Jacobson via Nfb-web Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:59 PM
>>>>> To: 'NFB Webmaster's List' Cc: Steve Jacobson Subject: Re:
>>>>> [Nfb-web] FW: Notes from last meeting and Webmasters
>>>>> Meeting Agenda
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not seen the combos you mention, but I would be
>>>>> curious to know if you have tried them with different web
>>>>> browsers and also whether you've tried them with NVDA.
>>>>> There seem to be more and more cases where certain
>>>>> combinations of screen readers and web browsers work
>>>>> differently, and where possible, we need to hold screen
>>>>> reader developers accountable when appropriate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Nfb-web
>>>>> [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan
>>>>> Schulz via Nfb-web Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:26 AM To:
>>>>> 'NFB Webmaster's List' <nfb-web at nfbnet.org> Cc: Bryan
>>>>> Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] FW:
>>>>> Notes from last meeting and Webmasters Meeting Agenda
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding the drupal template, Why does it take so long to
>>>>> actually get the template after it is announced on lists?
>>>>> How easy is it for state webmasters to tweak it to make
>>>>> their own changes? Why would the national office send out a
>>>>> template that uses combo lists not accessible by jaws
>>>>> users? Why can't the national office have training sessions
>>>>> in various cities to provide training instead of ending up
>>>>> with sites that continually have problems caused by
>>>>> volunteers who struggle to make it work when they don't
>>>>> completely know what to fix? Perhaps these are just local
>>>>> irks. Thanks, Bryan Schulz
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Nfb-web
>>>>> [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary
>>>>> Wunder via Nfb-web Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 5:35 AM To:
>>>>> nfb-web at nfbnet.org Cc: Gary Wunder Subject: [Nfb-web] FW:
>>>>> Notes from last meeting and Webmasters Meeting Agenda
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Michael Hansen [mailto:mhansen4 at gmail.com] Sent:
>>>>> Monday, June 27, 2016 9:06 PM To: NFB Internet Support Team
>>>>> - Members Subject: Notes from last meeting and Webmasters
>>>>> Meeting Agenda
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We had a short meeting on Monday July 13th. We got an
>>>>> update on the new Drupal / Word Press Affiliate web
>>>>> template. We also ran through the agenda for the webmasters
>>>>> meeting. So as a quick reminder here we go.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Logistics:
>>>>>
>>>>> - The national office can provide a Mixer, Mic,
>>>>> Speaker and, Laptop. Rachel will make this request of John
>>>>> Berggren.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Gary Wunder will provide internet hot spot so
>>>>> that the laptop will have internet access.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Rachel will log the laptop into Skype on her account
>>>>> and Mike Hansen will connect from Lincoln.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Time and Location:
>>>>>
>>>>> 8:00 - 9:30 pm—WEBMASTERS MEETING
>>>>>
>>>>> Suwannee 20, Level 2
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Agenda:
>>>>>
>>>>> Plans for National Convention Webmasters Meeting:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Topic Outline (1 and a half hours to fill)
>>>>>
>>>>> o IST update
>>>>>
>>>>> § Facebook Audit
>>>>>
>>>>> § Website Template
>>>>>
>>>>> § Legal Document
>>>>>
>>>>> o Danielle Trevino - Discuss Affiliate Social Media
>>>>> accounts
>>>>>
>>>>> § Facebook
>>>>>
>>>>> § Twitter
>>>>>
>>>>> § Possibly Periscope
>>>>>
>>>>> - Solicit volunteer webmasters
>>>>>
>>>>> - Discuss available resources
>>>>>
>>>>> - Q & A
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you everyone for you efforts and help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if anyone has any questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Hansen
>>>>>
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