[Nfbc-info] [nabs-l] Follow NFB on Twitter

Sat Jan 31 16:09:14 UTC 2009

I'm hard of hearing. The Twitter Captcha sounds like when a cassette gets
jammed in one of those library of congress cassette players. If I'd listened
to it 20 times and kept guessing, I'm sure I would have gotten it
eventually, but is that really accessible? I've seen sites with clear enough
Catpchas that I could just type as I listened.
	I agree with Michael though that in order to further our cause we
need to get our message out into mainstreamed media, including social
networking sites. We'll just have to keep after them.    

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Peterson
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:38 PM
To: NFB of California List
Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] [nabs-l] Follow NFB on Twitter

    Hi Dave. the only problem is the captchea that twitter uses tries to
duplicate a visual one in a sound format. this isn't a reasonable
alternative for those of us who have any kind of hearing impairment because
we can't hear the letters any cleare than we can see them.
Either way for us the site would be unaccessible without assistance.
For a blind person with unimpaired hearing maybe the sound isn't a problem
I've never had that luxury so I can't say but we can't discern it.
Security concerns are what they are the problem being security is fluid. 
Give me a secure site and in time a hacker will compromise it than the whole
format has to change again.
If a consistent standard isn't set the day might come when those of you with
lack of sight but normal hearing will be faced once again with no access.
Mike Peterson

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] [nabs-l] Follow NFB on Twitter

Peter:

It seems to me that it is not CAPTCHA's per se
that we are opposed to, but visual requirements
without reasonable alternatives.  Twitter does have an audio CAPTCHA.

These sites have reasonable security concerns and
it is their right and responsibility to take
steps to make them secure.  As long as they
provide us with reasonable alternatives we should
not oppose their visual approaches.

Dave

At 01:59 PM 1/30/2009, Peter Donahue wrote:
>Good afternoon everyone,
>
>     I'm sorry folks but if this organization opposes the use of CAPTCHA as

> a
>means of site security it has no business putting its presences on these
>sites that require blind people to use them; particularly if the audio
>quality is horrible and the person is both blind  and deaf. I'm all for
>establishing presences on social networks but not on those that require the
>use of a CAPTCHA as a part of registration process. As far as I'm concerned
>we're shooting ourselves in the foot if this continues!!
>
>Peter Donahue
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Danielsen, Chris (by way of David Andrews<dandrews at visi.com>)"
><CDanielsen at nfb.org>
>To: <david.andrews at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:58 PM
>Subject: [nabs-l] Follow NFB on Twitter
>
>
>
>Dear Fellow Federationists:
>
>
>I am writing with exciting news! You can now
>follow the latest news and information from the
>National Federation of the Blind, the Voice of
>the Nation's Blind, on Twitter.  To follow our
>Twitter updates, go to
><http://www.twitter.com/NFB_voice>www.twitter.com/NFB_voice.
>You'll need to join Twitter if you don't have an account.
>
>
>
>Twitter is a social networking site that allows
>you to keep track of your friends, family, and
>interests online.  In addition to signing up for
>Web updates for the National Federation of the
>Blind, you can also opt to receive our Twitter
>updates via text message on your mobile
>phone.  And while you're at it, follow the 2009
>Braille Readers are Leaders campaign as well, by
>going to
><http://www.twitter.com/brailleliteracy>www.twitter.com/brailleliteracy
>
>
>
>We hope lots of you will follow our new Twitter
>feed-and don't hesitate to send us a direct
>message if you have questions or comments about what you read.
>
>
>
>Sincerely:
>
>
>
>Chris Danielsen
>
>Director of Public Relations
>
>NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
>
>
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