[Nfbc-info] Scramble Pedestrian Intersections?

[Hoby Wedler]

Melissa,

Which intersection is it?
-- Hoby


-----Original Message----- 
From: Melissa Haney
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 2:42 PM
To: NFB of California List
Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Scramble Pedestrian Intersections?

We have an intersectionlike this in Sonoma county. I have never used it, but 
it seems safe.

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On Aug 9, 2012, at 2:29 PM, "Michael Hingson" <info at michaelhingson.com> 
wrote:

> The asking of the question demonstrates the scary part I think.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of Jim Barbour
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 01:22 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Scramble Pedestrian Intersections?
>
> I don't understand the scary part. Basically, all traffic stops, and
> pedestrians can cross in whichever direction they want. This sounds like a
> good thing. The question is, what do we suggest the city do about the
> audible traffic signals?  Should we take them out? Should they all sound
> when pedestrians can cross? Is there a different solution?
>
> Jim
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 9, 2012, at 4:12 PM, "Michael Hingson" <info at michaelhingson.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This does sound scary.  Crossing any which way all at once?  Hmmmm.  I
>> suggest someone contact Mark Riccobono at the Jernigan Institute.
>> Mark would know about any relevant technology.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
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>> ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:53 PM
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>>
>> this sounds like an accident waiting to happen. For those of us who
>> were trained in mobility before audible devices this sounds like a
>> potential disaster. I'm not familiar with this concept. This sounds
>> about as bad as roundabouts for pedestrians.
>> Chuck
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Fred's ol' XP" <regenerative at earthlink.net>
>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:28 AM
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Scramble Pedestrian Intersections?
>>
>>
>>> Hi NFB-Cal'ers,
>>> We just got our first "Scramble" crossing along the coast of Northern
>>> San Diego County.  (That's an all-stop for vehicles, no right on red,
>>> and pedestrians can cross any which way, including diagonal.
>>> As an afterthought, the city traffic people asked the Beach Cities
>>> Chapter for input on how to change their Audible Pedestrian Signals.
>>> How do y'all do it in the big cities?
>>> What do your gadgets usually say or do?
>>> I used them in New Zealand and Australia, but was cruising around
>>> with locals.
>>> Thanks for your input!
>>> Fred Chambers
>>>
>>>
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