[Nfbc-info] Note-Taking Devices

Fri Sep 13 04:34:39 UTC 2013

I have the first Brailliant.  I like the hardware a lot more than I like the
hardware for the Focus 40. However, because JAWS does not support Humanware
Braille displays, and the Brailliant is Humanware, it's not as easy to
connect as the Focus 40.  But it's totally doable. I have been using a
Brailliant since 2005 with JAWS.

I haven't used an Apex but I know a lot of people really like them.

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From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chela
Robles
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:16 PM
To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Note-Taking Devices

What about the Brailliant braille displays or the Apex?

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On 9/12/2013 8:56 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
> Hello,
> I use a
> Braille Plus 18
> <http://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_Braille%20Plus%
> 2018_1-07466-00P_10001_11051> for reading books, taking quick notes, 
> recording my voice lessons, searching the web really quick in the 
> hall, and listening to music. I use an IPhone for testing and calling 
> people and doing things that the Braille Plus 18 can't do.
> But I always use my computer to take notes in class and that way I can 
> search the internet, do tests, email and do what ever else while I'm 
> taking notes. Switching apps is really fast on the BP18, but not quite 
> as fast as it is on the computer.
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
>
> On 9/12/2013 8:47 PM, Shannon L. Dillon wrote:
>> Hi Chela,
>> First, the Focus 14 is too small to be really useful with a laptop. 
>> It works
>> fine for an iPhone, but it's no good for reading and getting an idea 
>> of formatting on the laptop screen. Don't leet your counselor BS you 
>> into a Focus 14.
>>
>> As for notetakers, I have had many people tell me their iPhone is 
>> sufficient to take notes with. I have tried a couple of Bluetooth 
>> keyboards, and the Focus 14, and my experience has not been that 
>> great. The iPhone simply can't keep up with my Brailling. So I don't 
>> know what your Braille typing speed is, but I would really put an 
>> iPhone and Braille display or Bluetooth keyboard to the test before 
>> using it as your notetaker. And trying using them quickly like you're 
>> taking notes in a fast paced class. Don't just try writing a letter 
>> or something you can do without concern for time.
>>
>> Plus, a notetaker you can always connect to a flash drive or memory 
>> stick and get files from other people. You would have to use Dropbox 
>> or email to get files from other people with your iPhone. So it 
>> limits your options for sharing information with other people.
>>
>> My notetaker has been sick this last few months, and I've been trying 
>> my iPhone and my laptop and in my experience, they don't replace the 
>> notetaker.
>> You can't just pop open your laptop and reboot it in the middle of 
>> the hall while talking to someone if they come up with something you 
>> want to write down. You can't type while standing at someone's desk. 
>> You have to find somewhere to sit down, lay down the laptop and turn 
>> it on. I find the notetaker to be a lot more portable and flexible. 
>> And as I said before, the iPhone doesn't cut it because I type too 
>> fast and the words run together and it starts to drop characters. I 
>> never had that with a notetaker, not even back in the days of the 
>> Braille 'n Speak.
>>
>> Saying that, the laptop is great obviously for writing papers and 
>> reading books that are electronic. I wouldn't want to only have a 
>> notetaker. I would still want a laptop, too.
>>
>> Hope it helps. Feel free to contact me ifyou want.
>>
>> -Shannon
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Chela Robles
>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:30 PM
>> To: undisclosed-recipients:
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Note-Taking Devices
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I have told you while back that I'm going to take the Administrative 
>> Assistant Program starting October 21st and through the summer of
>> 2014 at
>> Mt. Diablo Adult Education School in my hometown, Concord, California 
>> and I have made a list in conjunction with the financial aid adviser 
>> who will be working with my counselor and I to make sure I succeed. A 
>> couple of the items I listed I think are note-taking possibilities a 
>> windows professional
>> 7 equipped laptop and the Braille Focus 14 display.
>> My question to all of you since I'm not going to divulge my whole 
>> list which is only ten items, which I'm sure you guys don't wish to 
>> read unless I'm wrong about that then let me know.
>> Anyway my question is what do you guys use for taking notes in school?
>> Several people from the IOs listserv I'm on say they use their IPads, 
>> IPhones, IPod Touches, MacBookPro's, while others use PC Laptops in 
>> conjunction with braille displays that have the braille keyboard 
>> integrated with the laptop while still others use just the braille 
>> display because it has note-taking functionality itself, yet others 
>> still stick to the classic note-takers such as from Humanware or the 
>> pac mate from Freedom Scientific which mine didn't last. I just 
>> really think personally it would be easier to take the laptop and the 
>> braille display along with the digital recorder I have from Olympus 
>> to record lectures, but I want to make sure I know what others are 
>> using but to me it sounds like a lot of people are using their 
>> IDevices or Braille displays in conjunction with the IDevices or as a 
>> stand-alone note-taker, or in conjunction or without laptops whether 
>> from Apple or PC-based, now, but correct me if I'm wrong, but there 
>> are still those who use the older technology such as what I mentioned 
>> before from Freedom Scientific which again my Pac Mate did retire and 
>> I'd not get one again.
>> I'd like to know before 8AM PST. Tomorrow.
>> I don't want to limit myself yet I want to make sure I don't break 
>> Rehab's budget smiles.
>> I have a meeting tomorrow with a tech evaluator name Steven Clark 
>> from Adaptive Technology Services, even though I already gave him the 
>> list, I'd still like to know what others are using to take notes in 
>> classes nowadays.
>> Thanks for your kind responses.
>> Chela Robles
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Teachers have a sacred task:
>> It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an 
>> expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of 
>> light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will 
>> have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song.
>> And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally-and 
>> in Chela's case--out of sight.it is the voice and touch of a Teacher 
>> that sheds light on what the world can be.
>> Academics-and no one will ever change my mind on this-take a distant 
>> second place. -Dr. Bil Hawkins
>> --
>> Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, 
>> certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF):
>> http://www.nrffoundation.com/
>> E-mail: cdrobles693 at gmail.com
>> Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles693 at hotmail.com
>> Skype: jazzytrumpet
>> I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with
>> us,visit:
>> http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and 
>> start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my 
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>> you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E
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