[Nfbc-info] Nfbc-info Digest, Vol 110, Issue 13
Dennis Russak
russakdennis at gmail.com
Fri Jul 18 12:51:33 UTC 2014
from: Dennis Russak
As usual, good job Lisa! I'm not only glad you took it upon yourself to contact E.-How, but also for their quick and most posative response. Though we still have problems of this type to at least some extent as blind people, more and more, when it is called to their attention, people like the ones at E-How are glad to correct the err of their ways. Most sighted people, once they are able to come to understand, are glad to have us to come and be with them to make our world a better place to live for all of us. Keep up the good work. Lisa, it sounds like things are moving along great with that new chapter of ours down there.
Dennis Russak
P.S. Rgratulations to all of us who are parents in reaching our hands out to the new mother up here in Northern California. To the new mother I say: Don't worry, you're never alone.
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> 1. Re: Looking For Blind Parents (Bryan Bashin)
> 2. FW: offensive content: please immediately remove {184578}
> (Lisa Irving)
> 3. Re: FW: offensive content: please immediately remove {184578}
> (Brandon Keith Bi(s)
> 4. Re: Looking For Blind Parents (Jennifer Boylan)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 08:05:07 com0700
> From: "Bryan Bashin" <bashin at calweb.com>
> To: "'therese gardner'" <what-sharky at att.net>, "'NFB of California
> List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Looking For Blind Parents
> Message-ID: <003201cfa1d0$7fc992e0$7f5cb8a0$@calweb.com>
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> Therese,
>
> In your area Stacey Servenka and Greg Dewall are blind parents with a
> young baby. You might contact Greg through the Society for the Blind in
> Sacramento.
>
> Best,
>
> Bryan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of therese
> gardner via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 5:21 PM
> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Looking For Blind Parents
>
> Hello All:
>
>
>
> My name is Therese. I am requesting your assistance in locating parents who
> are blind.
>
>
>
> I have recently come into contact with a young mother who has recently, and
> I do mean recently, experienced vision loss. She has 2 young children, one
> of whom is a todlar.
>
>
>
> She is looking for someone to speak with.
>
>
>
> This person lives in the northern portion of San Joaquin Valley in
> California.
>
>
>
> If any one can assist, please do let me know.
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance for any assistance.
>
>
>
> Therese
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 19:43:30 com0700
> From: "Lisa Irving" <peacefulwoman89 at cox.net>
> To: <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] FW: offensive content: please immediately remove
> {184578}
> Message-ID:
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> Hello Federation Family,
>
>
>
>
>
> For those of us who heard Dr. Mauer's banquet speech we heard him reference
> an E-How article. The article described how to "entertain" a blind person.
>
>
>
>
>
> I wanted to see for myself what the entire article had to say. After reading
> the highly offensive article I sent a message and strongly recommended that
> the highly offensive article be immediately removed. Below is the response I
> received today.
>
>
>
>
>
> From,
>
> Lisa Irving
>
>
>
>
>
> From: editorialteam at demandstudios.com
> [mailto:editorialteam at demandstudios.com] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 4:19
> PM
> To: peacefulwoman89 at cox.net
> Subject: RE: offensive content: please immediately remove {184578}
>
>
>
>
> ## Reply ABOVE THIS LINE to add a note to this request ##
>
>
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>
> Request Update
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> View the complete request history
> <http://helpdesk.demandstudios.com/index.php?pg=request.check&id=184578hdnhw
> p>
>
>
>
> Hello Lisa,
>
> Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We are having the article
> removed from the site as it is certainly not something we want on eHow.com.
>
> Thank you,
>
> The DMS Team
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:09:31 com0700
> From: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com>
> To: Lisa Irving <peacefulwoman89 at cox.net>, NFB of California List
> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] FW: offensive content: please immediately
> remove {184578}
> Message-ID: <53C88FEB.4050402 at gmail.com>
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>
> Hello,
> I found the said article very amusing and wrote a response to it.
> (I had never heard of EHow or Ab.com before).
> But I also read an article on how to feed a blind person and how to
> treat a blind person. Which are all valid questions, they just need to
> not be written by someone with no idea of what they are talking about.
> But here are my responses:
>
>
> How to assist a sighted person
>
> Instructions:
>
> Sight is a very complicated infliction many people are faced with. It
> can lead to low self esteem, depression, prejudice and lots of extra
> anxiety.
>
> It often takes sighted people a lifetime to come to terms with themselves.
>
> Something you need to be careful with when dealing with a sighted person
> is conforming to their definition of what a person is supposed to be.
> Every sighted person is different, so you need to unfortunately observe
> them in their own environment before making any kind of conclusion.
> Sometimes their grasping hands and over enthusiastic reactions to what
> you do or say can be hard to live with, but here are some techniques to
> deal with those challenges.
>
> instructions:
>
> 1.
>
> Look at the sighted person's face. They feel neglected and confused when
> you move your eye sockets away from pointing at their face. Often times
> this can trigger an unfriendly response in many sighted people. Also
> make sure your face moves. Good movements include lifting the eyebrows
> to indicate interest, moving your head up and down to show you agree and
> moving your head left to right to show you disagree. Another common
> movement sighted people like to see is a small lift of the shoulders to
> show you don't know something. But always combine your actions with what
> you say, because often times sighted people don't see what you are doing
> and that makes them anxious.
>
> 2.
>
> When you walk into a room make lots of noise so the sighted person knows
> you are there. It causes lots of anxiety and fear in the sighted person
> if you are doing something in the same room as they are and they don't
> notice you are there. Most sighted people have a hard time focusing on
> more than one thing at once and their eyes can only focus on one point
> in the room at a time. Making noise alerts the sighted person so they
> can turn their face toward you if they wish. Some noise options are
> clattering your cane on the floor, scuffing your feet on the floor,
> clearing your throat or talking while you enter the room.
>
> 3.
>
> Some sighted people have a hard time talking. Make sure you ask
> questions in a clear concise manor so they just need to answer in as few
> words as possible.
>
> 4.
>
> When playing music or a section in a book for a sighted person, slow
> down your screen reader. Most sighted people have a hard time
> understanding speech at normal speed.
>
> 5.
>
> If you notice a sighted person getting anxious about something you are
> doing, start explaining what you are doing in a calm manor. Often times
> sighted people jump to conclusions very fast. If they still are acting
> anxious and start touching or grabbing you, stop and in a clear firm
> tone tell them what you are doing.
>
> 6.
>
> when telling a sighted person directions use as many vague terms as you
> can. Often times just giving a simple description of a building or
> object they need to find is too much. They have a hard time
> understanding landmarks and running into things, so even though they
> will probably spend extra time finding something because the description
> they understood was very bad, that is OK, because they thought they knew
> what you were talking about.
>
> 7.
>
> Sighted people get scared when you use your fingers to steady and mark
> where to cut with a knife, stab with a fork or place a hot object. Make
> sure your hand is at least 5 inches away from the point of impact before
> you perform your action.
>
> Tips and warnings:
>
> Sighted people can be very judgmental so be patient with them.
>
> Having sight does not mean that they use it. Don't expect people to know
> buildings around a rout they follow every day, or even the street names.
>
> Avoid any mention (unless it is complementary) of a sighted person's
> dress or looks, many are super sensitive about words like ugly and will
> fret about it for the rest of the day.
>
> Also, sighted people use much more electricity than normal people, so be
> aware of that. They like to use these strange devices called lights and
> they don't do anything but make the sighted person happy. They let off a
> little heat after they have been on for a while, but that's about it.
> Just ignore it.
>
>
> How to cair for a sighted person:
>
> 1. Make sure lights are turned on and not facing toward the door.
> Sighted people don't like walking into dark rooms. They also don't like
> walking into bright lights, so one needs to find the perfect balance.
>
> 2. Open the curtains if it is day time, even if it is really warm
> outside and the AC is on. Sighted people love to have the sun shining
> into their house even though it raises the electrical bill.
>
> 3. Make sure print labels on food and appliances aren't covered by
> anything so the sighted person can feel comfortable reading the familiar
> labels. If there aren't already print labels on something, make sure
> they are printed in at least 14 point font with black letters on a white
> background. Sighted people have a hard time seeing small and or faded print.
>
> 4. Make sure your TV screen is on and make sure your computer screen
> shows what you are doing at all times. If you wish to be safe, slow down
> your screen reader so the sighted person won't feel left out of what you
> are doing.
>
> Warning!
>
> If you plan on cooking with the sighted person in the house, make sure
> to wear big gloves, because it raises the anxiety level of the sighted
> person seeing someone cutting and using hot items without protection.
>
> If you follow all these instructions, you will be able to interact with
> a sighted person comfortably in your house.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
>
> On 7/17/2014 7:43 PM, Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info wrote:
> > Hello Federation Family,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > For those of us who heard Dr. Mauer's banquet speech we heard him reference
> > an E-How article. The article described how to "entertain" a blind person.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I wanted to see for myself what the entire article had to say. After reading
> > the highly offensive article I sent a message and strongly recommended that
> > the highly offensive article be immediately removed. Below is the response I
> > received today.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From,
> >
> > Lisa Irving
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: editorialteam at demandstudios.com
> > [mailto:editorialteam at demandstudios.com] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 4:19
> > PM
> > To: peacefulwoman89 at cox.net
> > Subject: RE: offensive content: please immediately remove {184578}
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ## Reply ABOVE THIS LINE to add a note to this request ##
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Request Update
> >
> > View the complete request history
> > <http://helpdesk.demandstudios.com/index.php?pg=request.check&id=184578hdnhw
> > p>
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Lisa,
> >
> > Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We are having the article
> > removed from the site as it is certainly not something we want on eHow.com.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > The DMS Team
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:38:55 com0700
> From: Jennifer Boylan <jaboylan at sbcglobal.net>
> To: Bryan Bashin <bashin at calweb.com>, NFB of California List
> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Looking For Blind Parents
> Message-ID: <D6FA291C-E9E1-44C6-9367-8875E95BEA0D at sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi, this is JENNIFER BOYLAN from community center for the blind and visually impaired and Stockton. I am a blind parent, and no many blind parents in San Joaquin County so please contact me Cherisse if I can be of assistance at 209-466-3836 extension 210 or email me thank you, Jennifer
>
> > On Jul 17, 2014, at 8:05 AM, Bryan Bashin via Nfbc-info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Therese,
> >
> > In your area Stacey Servenka and Greg Dewall are blind parents with a
> > young baby. You might contact Greg through the Society for the Blind in
> > Sacramento.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of therese
> > gardner via Nfbc-info
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 5:21 PM
> > To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [Nfbc-info] Looking For Blind Parents
> >
> > Hello All:
> >
> >
> >
> > My name is Therese. I am requesting your assistance in locating parents who
> > are blind.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have recently come into contact with a young mother who has recently, and
> > I do mean recently, experienced vision loss. She has 2 young children, one
> > of whom is a todlar.
> >
> >
> >
> > She is looking for someone to speak with.
> >
> >
> >
> > This person lives in the northern portion of San Joaquin Valley in
> > California.
> >
> >
> >
> > If any one can assist, please do let me know.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you in advance for any assistance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Therese
> >
> >
> >
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