[Nfbc-info] driverless car

Chad Allen chad at chadallenmagic.com
Thu Dec 17 15:47:34 UTC 2015

The state legislation been considered by the NFB of California?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Tim Elder via Nfbc-info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> The DMV proposed draft regulations.  An opportunity to provide comments to
> the DMV will be available at hearings in January and February.  NFB or the
> CA affiliate should join forces with Google and be present at those
> hearings.
> http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/DMV-wants-driverless-cars-to-have-lice
> nsed-drivers-6703538.php
> Regards,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> Hingson via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 7:18 AM
> To: 'NFB of California List'
> Cc: Michael Hingson
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] driverless car
> On the news last evening I heard that legislation has been introduced that
> would require a licensed driver behind the wheel in California. 
> Best Regards,
> Michael Hingson
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
> Merryfield via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 1:59 AM
> To: 'NFB of California List' <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Lauren Merryfield <lauren at catlines.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] driverless car
> Hi,
> I just heard on the news today, Wednesday the 16th, that such cars will
> require a steering wheel and a driver in case something goes wrong. How can
> we overturn that or have it be recognized that a blind person could be
> considered a driver?
> Thanks,
> Lauren
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> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan
> Mirander via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 2:16 PM
> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] driverless car
> I have a question. My brother Joe and I had t his conversation last night.
> He had to pick up his son from school after a wrestling tournament. He
> didn't want him calling him while he was in the middle of cooking dinner
> because of course he would have to go get him, end it impossible for a
> person to be at in two places at the same time I said eventually I can go
> get him because there is the whole idea and topic of the autonomist car Sent
> from my iPhone
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>>  1. Re: Guide Dogs Night Before Christmas (Frida Aizenman)
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>> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 10:55:04 -0800
>> From: Frida Aizenman <nfbfrida at gmail.com>
>> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Guide Dogs Night Before Christmas
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>> Nancy,
>> That was very cute.
>> Here is another one:
>>    Frida
>> https://nfb.org/images/nfb/audio/twas%20the%20night%20before%20christm
>> as.mp3
>>> On 12/10/2015 7:44 PM, Nancy Lynn via Nfbc-info wrote:
>>> Guide Dogs? Night Before Christmas
>>> Twas the night before Christmas and the kennels were still, with most 
>>> dogs asleep having eaten their fill.
>>> The Labs were sprawled out, quite snug in their beds, while visions 
>>> of NylaBones danced in their heads.
>>> The Goldens and Shepherds curled up on the floor ? some twitched in 
>>> their sleep, some started to snore.
>>> The dog food was stacked in the feed room with care, in hopes that a 
>>> trainer may soon would be there.
>>> While up near the window a kennel cat lay, surveying the lawn at the 
>>> end
> of his day.
>>> Tonight would be different, that little cat knew. Something special 
>>> would happen, it had to be true.
>>> For today as the workers departed to roam, they?d wished Merry 
>>> Christmas before going home.
>>> The dogs noticed it too in this past week of walks ? the trainers so 
>>> happy and eager to talk.
>>> In the mall where they worked through the mazes of stores, were 
>>> lights, decorations, distractions galore!
>>> Most dogs pranced along without worry or fear, but some barked at the 
>>> sleigh and the fake looking deer.
>>> The cat, almost asleep when he first heard the sound, a whoosh 
>>> through the air and a jingle around.
>>> German Shepherds Pewter, Rachel, Kayla and Este pose in front of 
>>> their
> Christmas tree.
>>> Like a dog?s collar makes when the animal shook, but the sound kept 
>>> on
> growing.
>>> He?d better go look.
>>> From up on the ceiling there came a faint thunk, as the kennel cat 
>>> climbed on a high pile of junk.
>>> When before he?d known people to work on the roof, they?d come down 
>>> the trap door to a chorus of woof!
>>> But the dogs still were quiet, all sleeping so sound, as this man 
>>> dressed in red made his way right on down.
>>> He patted the cat, e?r he climbed past his spot, then made his way to 
>>> a hot coffee pot.
>>> A shepherd sat up, not fully awake, and a Golden retriever arose with 
>>> a
> shake!
>>> Soon everyone sprang to their paws with loud noise. In spite of the 
>>> din, the old elf kept his poise.
>>> The pot was plum full of his favorite brew, so he pulled up a chair 
>>> and took in the view.
>>> The dogs all around him, so carefully bred. He knew well their jobs, 
>>> the blind people they led.
>>> Some had stopped barking and looked at him now, while others rejoiced 
>>> in their deafening howl.
>>> Laying a finger in front of his lips, the man bade them cease their
> excitable yips.
>>> ?You all may not know me, but I?m Santa Claus.?
>>> He then stopped and smiled and took a short pause, while he filled up 
>>> his mug with hot liquid and cream. ?I?ve long wanted to stop here.
>>> It?s
> been one of my dreams.?
>>> The cat had climbed down to explore Santa?s sack. ?Yes, little kitty, 
>>> that?s an empty pack.?
>>> Santa smiled as he drank and looked at those eyes, deep brown ones 
>>> and gold ones held wide in surprise.
>>> Some of these dogs, he?d seen just last year, in their pup homes, 
>>> full of holiday cheer.
>>> He?d seen the effects of a pup on the tree, but now they were here at 
>>> the school, just waiting to be.
>>> Yellow Labs Ardsley and Amity in front of the Rockefeller Center tree 
>>> ?I didn?t bring presents or bones just to chew. I?ll say something 
>>> better, what you?re going to do.
>>> You?ll all work real hard and the trainers will share both praise and 
>>> correction, gentle and fair.
>>> You?ll go lots of places and face scary things. You?ll ride buses and 
>>> subways and hear fire sirens ring.
>>> Cars will drive at you but you will stand strong, not moving toward 
>>> danger, not moving toward wrong.
>>> And then just when you think that this trainer?s the best, the 
>>> kindest, and funnest person, toss away all the rest, that trainer 
>>> will begin to ignore you and give you away, handing your leash over
> despite your dismay.
>>> Now the one who will pet you and feed you will be, a blind person, 
>>> someone who can?t see. This man or this woman may see just a tad, But 
>>> their view?s missing parts or the focus is bad.
>>> So you, well trained dogs, will act as their eyes. You will work as a 
>>> team and discover the size ? of this great world we live in, because 
>>> you will go, a million new places with this person, you know.?
>>> Santa sipped at his coffee and looked over the brood, Knowing what 
>>> he?d say next might sound kind of rude.
>>> ?Not all will go on to become canine guides. But your time won?t be 
>>> wasted. You won?t be cast aside.
>>> Some will be drug dogs and some will find bombs. Some will be pets in 
>>> a home with a dad and a mom.
>>> All these things are important. People wait on long lists, to receive 
>>> such good dogs as you, the school folks insist.?
>>> The last drop of coffee had gone into his cup. As Santa turned, 
>>> smiling broadly at each wide eyed pup.
>>> ?The best gift of all is to give something back. That?s why there?s 
>>> nothing for any of you inside my pack.?
>>> Draining his mug, Santa went to each pen, and petted and scratched 
>>> each dog again and again.
>>> ?Now next year and many more years after that, you all will give 
>>> gifts wherever you?re at.
>>> You might lick a hand that?s had a bad day, or notice a car and step 
>>> out
> of the way.
>>> Yellow Lab Doris and black Lab Macbeth pose with Santa Claus You 
>>> might help catch a crook or discover some loot, or bring some joy to 
>>> a tired old man in a funny red suit.
>>> Your master will love you and treat you with care. In return, your 
>>> training and trust will always be there.?
>>> After the last dog had been petted and soothed, Santa put away the 
>>> coffee pot and made ready to move.
>>> Up the ladder he rose to the door high above, with a smile and a wave 
>>> as he slipped on his gloves.
>>> And all ears were pricked as he flew out of sight. ?Merry Christmas 
>>> to all, and to all a good night!?
>>> (Author Unknown)
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>> *****************************************  to to that he responded 
>> that
> they would have to be a licensed driver in the car with you in order for
> that to happen that no driverless car could you have somebody without a
> licensed driver I said that's what the NFB is trying to fight and he said
> that they're going to be defeated because of all computer glitches or fake
> starting and shuttingg down the car. 
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