[Nfbc-info] Nfbc-info Digest, Vol 121, Issue 26

Fri Jun 26 21:16:42 UTC 2015

Maybe so, but there is still no reason for smething like that. It doesn't 
matter who was stopped by the police, this is something that just shouldn't 
happen. I have total respect for the police, but there are some police out 
there that feel that they need to go above and beyond the law.

Rob Kaiser
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After reading the story.  I believe the assault on her had nothing to do 
with her blindness

it was an overzealous police officer who got angry when she did not jump 
when he told her to

I believe this would have happened to any person standing at that bar

Ted Clark
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Doesn't every police station have a coppy of the White Cane Act? If they 
don't, they should. I know that when I was getting dogs at Leaderdog, they 
would suggest when we went home, that we go to our local police station with 
the dog and even show them a coppy of the White Cane Act. Also, you would 
think that police would get some training in this while at the police 
acdomy.

I guess things hae changed.

Rob Kaiser
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Hello to all,

  It goes on and on, doesn't it? The incident in St. Louis is absolutely 
reprehensible! What's more, it never had to happen. Apparently Officer 
Clinton had no idea (if he even would have cared), that it is generally the 
law (White Cane Law), that among other things, that guide dogs are almost 
always allowed in any public place, including restaurants, stores, bars, 
office and other Government buildings, and any place else the public 
frequents.

  We need to come up to the plate too, if we haven't already, and try our 
best to educate and inform police about the white Cane laws in our state, 
together with how to deal effectively with guide dog users.

  On the elderly man who was decapitated, I'm sure everyone shares my belief 
that if they catch the person who did this, that animal can never walk the 
streets again. It reminds us what a sick society we have become.

      Dennis Russak

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>    4. Elderly blind Inglewood California man is decapitated
>       (Lisa Irving)
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>    6. Any ladies need a room at convention in Orlando? (Shannon Ramsay)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:12:50 com0500
> From: "Nancy Lynn" <freespirit.stl at att.net>
> To: "nfbmo list" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>, "NFBC List"
>  <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Blind Woman with Dog & Police
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> I got this from another list.
> Off-duty cop dragged blind woman and dog out of bar, suit says. By
> Robert Patrick St. Louis Post-Dispatch. STILL. LOUIS A federal civil
> rights lawsuit filed Tuesday claims that an off-duty police officer
> handcuffed a blind woman without cause and dragged her and her dog out
> of a St. Louis bar. The suit says that Marvelena Quesada had left
> Caleco's Bar & Grill ,
> 1010 North Broadway, on Oct. 28, 2013 as the bar was closing, but
> returned to help her friend settle her bill. As she was paying the
> bill at the bar, an off-duty officer, William Clinton, "told her to
> 'get out and get out now1'" the suit says, and refused to wait while
> she stowed her debit card and wallet in her purse. Quesada heard the
> jangling of handcuffs, and Clinton saying, "I said now, bitch!
>
> You're
>
> going to jail," the suit claims. Clinton handcuffed her and pulled her
> and pulled her off her chair, causing her to hit her head on the
> floor, the suit says. He then dragged her out of bar and down the
> sidewalk on her back, the suit says. The leash for Quesada's guide dog
> was on her arm, the suit says, and the dog was dragged into chairs and
> tables. Outside Caleco's, as Quesada screamed for help, her friend and
> other patrons successfully urged Clinton to release her, the suit
> says. Quesada suffered cuts and bruises, a back injury, depression and
> loss of sleep due to nightmares. She was confined to her bed for weeks
> afterward, the suit says. The two-count lawsuit seeks unspecified
> compensation for unreasonable seizure and assault and battery.
>
> Clinton
>
> could not be immediately reached for comment. Quesada, 40, is the
> vice-president of the Braille Revival League of Missouri, which
> advocates for the "use, production, and instruction of braille. She
> was also one of the plaintiffs involved in a successful federal suit
> against the Social Security Administration that said that the agency
> refused to correspond with the blind in any way other than printed
> letters and other notices that they couldn't read. In 2009, a judge
> ordered the administration to correspond in a format that is
> accessible to them, including at least Braille and the use of COULDs.
> Robert Patrick
>
> 314-621-5154 @rxpatrick on Twitter RPatrick at post-dispatch.com
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:17:37 com0700
> From: "Rob Kaiser" <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Blind Woman with Dog & Police
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> I hope thaqt officer was fired from his job.
>
>
>
> Rob Kaiser
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> From: Nancy Lynn via Nfbc-info
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> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Blind Woman with Dog & Police
>
> I got this from another list.
> Off-duty cop dragged blind woman and dog out of bar, suit says. By
> Robert Patrick St. Louis Post-Dispatch. STILL. LOUIS A federal civil
> rights lawsuit filed Tuesday claims that an off-duty police officer
> handcuffed a blind woman without cause and dragged her and her dog out
> of a St. Louis bar.
> The
> suit says that Marvelena Quesada had left Caleco's Bar & Grill , 1010
> North Broadway, on Oct. 28, 2013 as the bar was closing, but returned
> to help her friend settle her bill. As she was paying the bill at the
> bar, an off-duty officer, William Clinton, "told her to 'get out and
> get out now1'" the suit says, and refused to wait while she stowed her
> debit card and wallet in her purse. Quesada heard the jangling of
> handcuffs, and Clinton saying, "I said now, bitch!
>
> You're
>
> going to jail," the suit claims. Clinton handcuffed her and pulled her
> and pulled her off her chair, causing her to hit her head on the
> floor, the suit says. He then dragged her out of bar and down the
> sidewalk on her back, the suit says. The leash for Quesada's guide dog
> was on her arm, the suit says, and the dog was dragged into chairs and
> tables. Outside Caleco's, as Quesada screamed for help, her friend and
> other patrons successfully urged Clinton to release her, the suit
> says. Quesada suffered cuts and bruises, a back injury, depression and
> loss of sleep due to nightmares. She was confined to her bed for weeks
> afterward, the suit says. The two-count lawsuit seeks unspecified
> compensation for unreasonable seizure and assault and battery.
>
> Clinton
>
> could not be immediately reached for comment. Quesada, 40, is the
> vice-president of the Braille Revival League of Missouri, which
> advocates for the "use, production, and instruction of braille. She
> was also one of the plaintiffs involved in a successful federal suit
> against the Social Security Administration that said that the agency
> refused to correspond with the blind in any way other than printed
> letters and other notices that they couldn't read. In 2009, a judge
> ordered the administration to correspond in a format that is
> accessible to them, including at least Braille and the use of COULDs.
> Robert Patrick
>
> 314-621-5154 @rxpatrick on Twitter RPatrick at post-dispatch.com
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> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:50:46 com0700
> From: Lisa Irving <peacefulwoman89 at cox.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Blind Woman with Dog & Police
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> Sadly police brutality knows no limits. I can think of other instances
> where there has been police Bertelli against persons with
> developmental disabilities and I imagine other blind individuals. I
> believe that there needs to be a nationwide discussion about this
> topic. From Lisa Irving
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Rob Kaiser via Nfbc-info
> > <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > I hope thaqt officer was fired from his job.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rob Kaiser
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> > -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Lynn via Nfbc-info
> > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:12 PM
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> > Subject: [Nfbc-info] Blind Woman with Dog & Police
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> > I got this from another list.
> > Off-duty cop dragged blind woman and dog out of bar, suit says. By
> > Robert Patrick St. Louis Post-Dispatch. STILL. LOUIS A federal civil
> > rights lawsuit filed Tuesday claims that an off-duty police officer
> > handcuffed a blind woman without cause and dragged her and her dog
> > out of a St. Louis bar. The suit says that Marvelena Quesada had
> > left Caleco's Bar & Grill , 1010 North Broadway, on Oct. 28, 2013 as
> > the bar was closing, but returned to help her friend settle her
> > bill. As she was paying the bill at the bar, an off-duty officer,
> > William Clinton, "told her to 'get out and get out now1'" the suit
> > says, and refused to wait while she stowed her debit card and wallet
> > in her purse. Quesada heard the jangling of handcuffs, and Clinton 
> > saying, "I said now, bitch!
> >
> > You're
> >
> > going to jail," the suit claims. Clinton handcuffed her and pulled
> > her and pulled her off her chair, causing her to hit her head on the
> > floor, the suit says. He then dragged her out of bar and down the
> > sidewalk on her back, the suit says. The leash for Quesada's guide
> > dog was on her arm, the suit says, and the dog was dragged into chairs 
> > and tables.
> > Outside Caleco's, as Quesada screamed for help, her friend and other
> > patrons successfully urged Clinton to release her, the suit says.
> > Quesada suffered cuts and bruises, a back injury, depression and
> > loss of sleep due to nightmares. She was confined to her bed for
> > weeks afterward, the suit says. The two-count lawsuit seeks
> > unspecified compensation for unreasonable seizure and assault and 
> > battery.
> >
> > Clinton
> >
> > could not be immediately reached for comment. Quesada, 40, is the
> > vice-president of the Braille Revival League of Missouri, which
> > advocates for the "use, production, and instruction of braille. She
> > was also one of the plaintiffs involved in a successful federal suit
> > against the Social Security Administration that said that the agency
> > refused to correspond with the blind in any way other than printed
> > letters and other notices that they couldn't read. In 2009, a judge
> > ordered the administration to correspond in a format that is
> > accessible to them, including at least Braille and the use of
> > COULDs. Robert Patrick
> >
> > 314-621-5154 @rxpatrick on Twitter RPatrick at post-dispatch.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:53:35 com0700
> From: Lisa Irving <peacefulwoman89 at cox.net>
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> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Elderly blind Inglewood California man is
> decapitated
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> This morning Los Angeles news stations reported the decapitation of an
> elderly blind man this is appalling! This is obscene!
> From Lisa Irving
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:56:16 com0700
> From: "Rob Kaiser" <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Elderly blind Inglewood California man is
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> I understand from the news that this man was a good christian man who
> didn't hurt anyone. Why would anyone do such a thing.
>
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> This morning Los Angeles news stations reported the decapitation of an
> elderly blind man this is appalling! This is obscene!
> >From Lisa Irving
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:36:19 com0700
> From: "Shannon Ramsay" <salynnr at yahoo.com>
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> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Any ladies need a room at convention in Orlando?
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> Hello,
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>
>
>    My name is Shannon and I will be attending the NFB convention in
> Orlando
> this July.  I will be arriving July 5th and checking out early in the
> morning of Friday, July 10.  If there is still a lady looking for a room
> in
> the Rosen Centre Hotel, please let me know.  I can take one female
> roommate.
> Thanks and see you in Orlando!
>
>
>
>     Best wishes,
>
>
>
>     Shannon
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:26:34 com0700
> From: "Charles Krugman" <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Elderly blind Inglewood California man is
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> It actually happened several days ago and I've been following the case. I
> wondered if anyone in that area knew him or more details that hadn't been
> released to the media as it appears there are no leads and today's
> coverage
> involved the offering of a reward for information.
> Chuck
>
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> This morning Los Angeles news stations reported the decapitation of an
> elderly blind man this is appalling! This is obscene!
> >From Lisa Irving
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