[Nfbc-info] bus stop announcements

Tue Apr 19 19:20:18 UTC 2016

Hi Eileen,

Thanks to you I just installed the app I'm sitting and eating lunch at work and it's pretty amazing this app knows exactly where our building is and were in the middle of not a whole lot thanks again.

From,
Lisa Irving

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> On Apr 19, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Eileen Misrahi via Nfbc-info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Lisa, 
> 
> I thought this app may answer your problem of not having bus stops announced. The app is called "Moovit." I will paste the app store link below. It is VO accessible, but I can't remember if it's free or a paid app. I did check to see if San Diego (city) was listed and it is. I hope this helps.
> 
> Moovit: Your Local Transit App with Live Bus Schedules and Subway Maps by Moovit App Global LTD
> https://appsto.re/us/5TITD.i
> Best, 
> Eileen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 9:20 PM, Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm struggling with some of this. It's not unreasonable to expect to have equal access when riding the bus.  I really would like to see this affiliate join hands with Disability Rights Advocates to ensure  that cities currently using or planning to use automated announcements program in all stops; not just the ADA call-out points. Let's think about this. How might sighted folks respond if we went around and removed every fifth street sign. That's basically what we're expected to digest. 
>> 
>> I can pay attention to my watch. I also know there's some variables; traffic flow; construction; not stopping at a stop because no one is there and the list goes on. I'm back to my point. Let's work to ensure our right to ride the bus, without unnecessary dependency on transit operators or benevolent passengers. Just something to ponder. 
>> 
>> Lisa 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Frida Aizenman via Nfbc-info
>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 8:05 PM
>> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Frida Aizenman <nfbfrida at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] bus stop announcements
>> 
>> Also checking the time on your watch if you know approximately how long it takes. Then, you can remind the driver.
>> Frida
>>> On 4/17/2016 7:28 PM, Darian Smith via Nfbc-info wrote:
>>> Lisa,
>>> 
>>>  This is a great topic you bring up, and I thank you for  doing so.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In my experience  I have encountered all of what you have mentioned.  Sometimes I have to sit near the front of  the bus and ask the driver   every so often what stop is coming up, sometimes I ask a fellow passenger  that  I might be seated next to, sometimes I use a landmark  such as a turn the bus makes or a hill the bus goes down, and   other times I might use an app such as  blind square that tells me  streets I’m crossing.
>>> 
>>> I obviously can’t speak to the  resolution and the progress that may have been made on it, but I can suggest tools that I might use to work within the current system such as the ones just mentioned.
>>> Maybe others might have a few different thoughts and ideas? I hope that helps.
>>> 
>>> Darian
>>>    .
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps some of you have had an experience, or multiple experiences, 
>>>> where you have requested that the bus driver call out a particular 
>>>> stop and either the announcement wasn't discernable or the transit 
>>>> operator forgot. If you live in a major city them maybe some or all 
>>>> of the bus stop announcements are automated. In San Diego we have a 
>>>> combination of some automated announcements; ADA stops, and some 
>>>> stops called out by bus drivers when requested. Maybe you count 
>>>> stops. This works if the bus stops at all of the stops. Maybe you ask 
>>>> a passenger. This works if that person shares a common language with 
>>>> you. Maybe, most of the time, it's no big deal if you're let off at 
>>>> the stop before or after your stop. However, all of these variables can be problematic at one time or another.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> When 27 years of group advocacy; letter writing; participating in 
>>>> public meetings and meeting with administration hasn't resolved the 
>>>> issue then what's left? I wrote a resolution which was passed by the 
>>>> California affiliate, however, it appears as though it has not been 
>>>> acted upon. I really don't know what else to do. I'd appreciate your 
>>>> thoughts. I'd also appreciate it if we as an affiliate could address 
>>>> this issue that likely occurs up and down the state. Your thoughts???
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From,
>>>> 
>>>> Lisa Irving
>>>> 
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