[Nfbc-info] bus stop announcements

Lisa Irving peacefulwoman89 at cox.net
Tue Apr 19 19:23:47 UTC 2016 

I look forward to your recommendations for other apps apps about whatever might be helpful. From Lisa

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 19, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Chad Allen via Nfbc-info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Lisa,
> 
>    Yes. I am a Voice Over user. I have used all the screen reader technology over time but Voice Over is King in my house. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> Chad 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 6:23 AM, Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chad, I'm wondering if you are a voiceover user? 
>> 
>> Lisa 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chad Allen via Nfbc-info
>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 9:48 PM
>> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Chad Allen <chad at chadallenmagic.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] bus stop announcements
>> 
>> Hi Lisa,
>> 
>>    No. I have not used it personally but it looked like a good fit for your needs if you have an iPhone. but, I assume Android users may have an alternative. 
>> 
>>    I have used LA’s version of a transit App and find it useful from time to time. These kinds of Apps are typically free of charge so it’s of no cost to the user for testing it out. I hope you find it useful in your travels. 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Chad 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How well does this work with voiceover on the iPhone? Do you regularly use this? 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Chad Allen via Nfbc-info
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 8:17 PM
>>> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Chad Allen <chad at chadallenmagic.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] bus stop announcements
>>> 
>>> Transit Tracker - San Diego (MTS) by Raging Coders 
>>> https://appsto.re/us/h4V-3.i
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Frida Aizenman via Nfbc-info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Also checking the time on your watch if you know approximately how long it takes. Then, you can remind the driver.
>>>> Frida
>>>>> On 4/17/2016 7:28 PM, Darian Smith via Nfbc-info wrote:
>>>>> Lisa,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a great topic you bring up, and I thank you for  doing so.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In my experience  I have encountered all of what you have mentioned.  Sometimes I have to sit near the front of  the bus and ask the driver   every so often what stop is coming up, sometimes I ask a fellow passenger  that  I might be seated next to, sometimes I use a landmark  such as a turn the bus makes or a hill the bus goes down, and   other times I might use an app such as  blind square that tells me  streets I’m crossing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I obviously can’t speak to the  resolution and the progress that may have been made on it, but I can suggest tools that I might use to work within the current system such as the ones just mentioned.
>>>>> Maybe others might have a few different thoughts and ideas? I hope that helps.
>>>>> Darian
>>>>>  .
>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Lisa Irving via Nfbc-info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Perhaps some of you have had an experience, or multiple 
>>>>>> experiences, where you have requested that the bus driver call out 
>>>>>> a particular stop and either the announcement wasn't discernable or 
>>>>>> the transit operator forgot. If you live in a major city them maybe 
>>>>>> some or all of the bus stop announcements are automated. In San 
>>>>>> Diego we have a combination of some automated announcements; ADA 
>>>>>> stops, and some stops called out by bus drivers when requested. 
>>>>>> Maybe you count stops. This works if the bus stops at all of the 
>>>>>> stops. Maybe you ask a passenger. This works if that person shares 
>>>>>> a common language with you. Maybe, most of the time, it's no big 
>>>>>> deal if you're let off at the stop before or after your stop. However, all of these variables can be problematic at one time or another.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When 27 years of group advocacy; letter writing; participating in 
>>>>>> public meetings and meeting with administration hasn't resolved the 
>>>>>> issue then what's left? I wrote a resolution which was passed by 
>>>>>> the California affiliate, however, it appears as though it has not 
>>>>>> been acted upon. I really don't know what else to do. I'd 
>>>>>> appreciate your thoughts. I'd also appreciate it if we as an 
>>>>>> affiliate could address this issue that likely occurs up and down the state. Your thoughts???
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lisa Irving
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