[Nfbc-info] NFBC-Info Digest, Vol 133, Issue 6
Jordan Mirander
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Mon Jun 20 13:52:16 UTC 2016
Is that for the 2016 national federation of the blind of California state convention in el SEGUNDO, California? That is what my last question was regarding the 2016 NFBC state convention in El Segundo will there be any exercise sports and recreational activities? Are you planning any activities for that convention I think there could've been some confusion David could I think you meant the national where is I meant state. I am not going to Orlando.
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> Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention (Charles Krugman)
> 2. NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium (Allison Depner)
> 3. Re: NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium (nancy Lynn)
> 4. Re: NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium (Michael Hingson)
> 5. Re: NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium (Lisa Irving)
> 6. Re: NFBC-Info Digest, Vol 133, Issue 5 (Jordan Mirander)
> 7. Re: NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium (Allison Depner)
> 8. Re: NFBC-Info Digest, Vol 133, Issue 5 (David Andrews)
> 9. Re: NFBC-Info Digest, Vol 133, Issue 5 (Michael Hingson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 11:10:33 -0700
> From: "Charles Krugman" <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] MeetingWith
> PresidentRiccobono Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention
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> interestingly ACB has had such a group for the past several years. I
> expressed concerns about not having such a group in the early nineties and
> was told at that time that the powers that were would have no part of any
> discussion about it. That caused me to leave the NFB for many years. At that
> time there were not only the social issues but there were access issues as
> there were no LGBT publications available or literature available through
> NLS or any other sources for that matter. Now with the evolution of the
> internet and organizations such as bookshare.org the access issues have
> diminished somewhat.
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lauren Merryfield via NFBC-Info
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 2:09 AM
> To: 'NFB of California List'
> Cc: Lauren Merryfield
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] MeetingWith
> PresidentRiccobono Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention
>
> Hi,
> Some women tried years ago but when a women's group was forming, straight
> women became angry that lesbians were trying to run it when, as far as I
> know, they were just trying to attain equal opportunity. Nothing much
> happened for years and years after that. I would think it could be good for
> lgbt people to find each other and deal in a group with their specific
> issues.
> Thanks,
> Lauren
>
> Blessings in Jesus' name:
> But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy,
> peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and
> self-control. There is no law against these things!
> --Galatians 5:22-23, NLT
> My digital evangelism blog is at:
> w w w . ask in jesus name . org (remove the spaces).
> Advice from my cats:"meow when you feel like it."
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Charles
> Krugman via NFBC-Info
> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 8:54 PM
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> Cc: Charles Krugman <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With
> PresidentRiccobono Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention
>
> the fact that such a meeting is taking place is a major step forward for
> NFB.
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nancy Lynn via NFBC-Info
> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 5:54 PM
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> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With
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> From: Tai Tomasi via Nfbnet-members-list
> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:48 PM
> To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With President Riccobono Regarding
> LGBT Issues at National Convention
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>
> If you are attending the National Federation of the Blind convention and are
>
> interested in issues affecting the blind LGBT+ population, please come to a
> meeting with President Mark Riccobono on Saturday July 2 from 5:30 to 6:30
> P.M. in Panzacola Ballroom F-1. Spread the word. For questions, please
> contact Tai at (515) 710-4402 or email tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 11:28:39 -0700
> From: "Allison Depner" <adepner1425 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium
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> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> Here is a description of a recent San Diego Chapter outing.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Allison Depner
>
> You Can Live the Life You Want!
>
> NFBC,SD Chapter Trip to the Birch Aquarium
>
>
>
> Yesterday, Saturday, June 18, several of the local chapter of the National
> Federation of the Blind visited the Birch Aquarium in La Jolla. Thanks to
> the assistance provided by 2 Delta-Gamma Sorority alumnae, (Jennifer and
> Cara),
>
> and an aquarium volunteer, our visit was a great success! Kayla, the
> aquarium volunteer gave us an hour long guided tour packed with fascinating
> facts. Thank you Kayla for this generous contribution to our tour . We
> realize that such a tour usually costs a great deal of money, and we deeply
> appreciate the effort of the Birch Staff to make sure we were able to enjoy
> the facility as much as possible.
>
>
>
> At the end of the guided tour, We also had a chance to touch a starfish,
> anemones, a sea cucumber, and a sea urchin. How cool is that? BTW, the
> anemones felt like sticky plastic wrap. I thought the Sea Urchin felt like
> a kind of cactus.
>
>
>
> After the guided tour wrapped up, the 2 Delta-Gamma volunteers helped us
> look at some of the exhibits that hadn?t been covered by Kayla. They did a
> great job with describing the fish and reading signage.
>
>
>
> No visit to such a venue is complete without a trip to the gift shop.
> Again, Jennifer, and Cara did an exemplary job of telling us everything that
> the gift shop had to offer.
>
>
>
> We topped off the Birch Aquarium with lunch at the Splash outdoor caf?. I
> was impressed with how affordable the food was.
>
>
>
> We all had the same MTS bus to go home. On the way, Lisa thanked me for
> setting up the visit and said she had enjoyed herself more than she had for
> a very long time. The credit really goes to Birch Aquarium for providing us
> with a discounted entrance fee and the fabulous tour guide as well as to
> Cara and Jennifer who gave up their Saturday afternoon to work with us.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> NFBC,SD Secretary Allison Depner
>
> (619) 952-2352
>
> You can live the life you Want.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 13:33:56 -0500
> From: "nancy Lynn" <seabreeze.stl at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium
> Message-ID: <5AA362FDE8964E6C9CE1AE9E8CD06062 at nancyPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8";
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>
> Sounds like it was lots of fun.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allison Depner via NFBC-Info
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 1:28 PM
> To: 'NFB of California List'
> Cc: Allison Depner
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> Here is a description of a recent San Diego Chapter outing.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Allison Depner
>
> You Can Live the Life You Want!
>
> NFBC,SD Chapter Trip to the Birch Aquarium
>
>
>
> Yesterday, Saturday, June 18, several of the local chapter of the National
> Federation of the Blind visited the Birch Aquarium in La Jolla. Thanks to
> the assistance provided by 2 Delta-Gamma Sorority alumnae, (Jennifer and
> Cara),
>
> and an aquarium volunteer, our visit was a great success! Kayla, the
> aquarium volunteer gave us an hour long guided tour packed with fascinating
> facts. Thank you Kayla for this generous contribution to our tour . We
> realize that such a tour usually costs a great deal of money, and we deeply
> appreciate the effort of the Birch Staff to make sure we were able to enjoy
> the facility as much as possible.
>
>
>
> At the end of the guided tour, We also had a chance to touch a starfish,
> anemones, a sea cucumber, and a sea urchin. How cool is that? BTW, the
> anemones felt like sticky plastic wrap. I thought the Sea Urchin felt like
> a kind of cactus.
>
>
>
> After the guided tour wrapped up, the 2 Delta-Gamma volunteers helped us
> look at some of the exhibits that hadn?t been covered by Kayla. They did a
> great job with describing the fish and reading signage.
>
>
>
> No visit to such a venue is complete without a trip to the gift shop.
> Again, Jennifer, and Cara did an exemplary job of telling us everything that
> the gift shop had to offer.
>
>
>
> We topped off the Birch Aquarium with lunch at the Splash outdoor caf?. I
> was impressed with how affordable the food was.
>
>
>
> We all had the same MTS bus to go home. On the way, Lisa thanked me for
> setting up the visit and said she had enjoyed herself more than she had for
> a very long time. The credit really goes to Birch Aquarium for providing us
> with a discounted entrance fee and the fabulous tour guide as well as to
> Cara and Jennifer who gave up their Saturday afternoon to work with us.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> NFBC,SD Secretary Allison Depner
>
> (619) 952-2352
>
> You can live the life you Want.
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 11:36:08 -0700
> From: "Michael Hingson" <mike at michaelhingson.com>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium
> Message-ID: <000001d1ca59$725e7c70$571b7550$@michaelhingson.com>
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>
> It sounds like all of you had a great time. Congrats. It is great to dream
> the dream and live the lives we want.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Allison
> Depner via NFBC-Info
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 11:29 AM
> To: 'NFB of California List' <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Allison Depner <adepner1425 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> Here is a description of a recent San Diego Chapter outing.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Allison Depner
>
> You Can Live the Life You Want!
>
> NFBC,SD Chapter Trip to the Birch Aquarium
>
>
>
> Yesterday, Saturday, June 18, several of the local chapter of the National
> Federation of the Blind visited the Birch Aquarium in La Jolla. Thanks to
> the assistance provided by 2 Delta-Gamma Sorority alumnae, (Jennifer and
> Cara),
>
> and an aquarium volunteer, our visit was a great success! Kayla, the
> aquarium volunteer gave us an hour long guided tour packed with fascinating
> facts. Thank you Kayla for this generous contribution to our tour . We
> realize that such a tour usually costs a great deal of money, and we deeply
> appreciate the effort of the Birch Staff to make sure we were able to enjoy
> the facility as much as possible.
>
>
>
> At the end of the guided tour, We also had a chance to touch a starfish,
> anemones, a sea cucumber, and a sea urchin. How cool is that? BTW, the
> anemones felt like sticky plastic wrap. I thought the Sea Urchin felt like
> a kind of cactus.
>
>
>
> After the guided tour wrapped up, the 2 Delta-Gamma volunteers helped us
> look at some of the exhibits that hadn?t been covered by Kayla. They did a
> great job with describing the fish and reading signage.
>
>
>
> No visit to such a venue is complete without a trip to the gift shop.
> Again, Jennifer, and Cara did an exemplary job of telling us everything that
> the gift shop had to offer.
>
>
>
> We topped off the Birch Aquarium with lunch at the Splash outdoor caf?. I
> was impressed with how affordable the food was.
>
>
>
> We all had the same MTS bus to go home. On the way, Lisa thanked me for
> setting up the visit and said she had enjoyed herself more than she had for
> a very long time. The credit really goes to Birch Aquarium for providing us
> with a discounted entrance fee and the fabulous tour guide as well as to
> Cara and Jennifer who gave up their Saturday afternoon to work with us.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> NFBC,SD Secretary Allison Depner
>
> (619) 952-2352
>
> You can live the life you Want.
>
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 12:09:08 -0700
> From: Lisa Irving <peacefulwoman89 at cox.net>
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium
> Message-ID: <D9CEBF2F-7A5B-43B2-86FC-639A74743DCD at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hello, I would like to add to Alice's wonderful commentary. First I really appreciate all of her hard work and pulling together this trip. She has been planning this outing for about three months.
>
> I particularly enjoyed learning about the Monterey aquarium's phone app which enables those of us who eat fish to choose fish that are sustainable. For those of you going to Orlando you may wish to try the delicacy a lionfish. Who would think of eating a lion fish? Well they are overtaking that area of the United States. And that is why restaurants are putting together delicious menu options.
>
> We were also able to feel a raised timeline that shows the depletion of CO2 in the atmosphere. Additionally we were able to see colorful fish and learn that some fish I forget which grow up to 300 pounds. We used to think that's a lot of tacos however this fish was still a very young fish.
>
> I really enjoyed the fact that our young Chapter family joined us. It was fun to once again hold a toddler who squealed with the light it's seeing the various fish float around.
>
> About a year ago one of our chapter members Kyle what are began the practice of something called brags and rags. Basically you pay to brag or you pay to drag. We were able to use this petty cash to pay for the tickets for both volunteers. We also purchased their lunch.
>
> Once again, thank you very much allison and Depner for putting together this amazing day at the aquarium.
>
> Thoughtfully,
> Lisa Irving, Chapter President
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> It sounds like all of you had a great time. Congrats. It is great to dream
>> the dream and live the lives we want.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Allison
>> Depner via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 11:29 AM
>> To: 'NFB of California List' <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Allison Depner <adepner1425 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is a description of a recent San Diego Chapter outing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Allison Depner
>>
>> You Can Live the Life You Want!
>>
>> NFBC,SD Chapter Trip to the Birch Aquarium
>>
>>
>>
>> Yesterday, Saturday, June 18, several of the local chapter of the National
>> Federation of the Blind visited the Birch Aquarium in La Jolla. Thanks to
>> the assistance provided by 2 Delta-Gamma Sorority alumnae, (Jennifer and
>> Cara),
>>
>> and an aquarium volunteer, our visit was a great success! Kayla, the
>> aquarium volunteer gave us an hour long guided tour packed with fascinating
>> facts. Thank you Kayla for this generous contribution to our tour . We
>> realize that such a tour usually costs a great deal of money, and we deeply
>> appreciate the effort of the Birch Staff to make sure we were able to enjoy
>> the facility as much as possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> At the end of the guided tour, We also had a chance to touch a starfish,
>> anemones, a sea cucumber, and a sea urchin. How cool is that? BTW, the
>> anemones felt like sticky plastic wrap. I thought the Sea Urchin felt like
>> a kind of cactus.
>>
>>
>>
>> After the guided tour wrapped up, the 2 Delta-Gamma volunteers helped us
>> look at some of the exhibits that hadn?t been covered by Kayla. They did a
>> great job with describing the fish and reading signage.
>>
>>
>>
>> No visit to such a venue is complete without a trip to the gift shop.
>> Again, Jennifer, and Cara did an exemplary job of telling us everything that
>> the gift shop had to offer.
>>
>>
>>
>> We topped off the Birch Aquarium with lunch at the Splash outdoor caf?. I
>> was impressed with how affordable the food was.
>>
>>
>>
>> We all had the same MTS bus to go home. On the way, Lisa thanked me for
>> setting up the visit and said she had enjoyed herself more than she had for
>> a very long time. The credit really goes to Birch Aquarium for providing us
>> with a discounted entrance fee and the fabulous tour guide as well as to
>> Cara and Jennifer who gave up their Saturday afternoon to work with us.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> NFBC,SD Secretary Allison Depner
>>
>> (619) 952-2352
>>
>> You can live the life you Want.
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:23:11 -0700
> From: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] NFBC-Info Digest, Vol 133, Issue 5
> Message-ID: <84C13737-315F-4A09-A6FE-A7D4F8E5D566 at icloud.com>
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> You know our conventions are definitely characterized by prolonged sitting. This is not good as it is likely to lead to heart disease and diabetes. So therefore I have this question that I want to throw out there to the list serve. What activities are we planning for the 2014 convention that involve sports, recreation, and exercise? I liked what we did last year up in the Bay Area and I do not want that to end that is a good trend that we started last year we had a dance I loved it. I mean you wouldn't like any of us to end up with diabetes or heart disease would you?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 1. Re: 8 helpful things THAT DON'T REALLY HELP PEOPLE WITH
>> DISABILITIES (Michael Hingson)
>> 2. Re: 8 helpful things THAT DON'T REALLY HELP PEOPLE WITH
>> DISABILITIES (nancy Lynn)
>> 3. Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With President Riccobono
>> Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention (nancy Lynn)
>> 4. Re: Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With PresidentRiccobono
>> Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention (Charles Krugman)
>> 5. Re: Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With PresidentRiccobono
>> Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention (Lisa Irving)
>> 6. Re: Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With PresidentRiccobono
>> Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention (Lauren Merryfield)
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 15:36:08 -0700
>> From: "Michael Hingson" <mike at michaelhingson.com>
>> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] 8 helpful things THAT DON'T REALLY HELP
>> PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES
>> Message-ID: <007c01d1c9b1$cf0b1760$6d214620$@michaelhingson.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> May this be disseminated?
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of nancy
>> Lynn via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 2:23 AM
>> To: mcb chat <chat at moblind.org>; nfbmo list <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>; NFBC List
>> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: nancy Lynn <seabreeze.stl at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] 8 helpful things THAT DON'T REALLY HELP PEOPLE WITH
>> DISABILITIES
>>
>> An interesting conversation picked up on Reddit this week when a user posted
>> the following question to people with disabilities: "What is something that
>> we (presumably people without disabilities) do that we think helps, but it
>> really doesn't?" In just a day, more than 9,000 comments rolled in, and
>> people living with all types of health conditions - from physical
>> disabilities to developmental delays to invisible illnesses - offered a lot
>> of great insight.
>>
>>
>> If you're unfamiliar with what it's like to live with a health condition,
>> you may not even realize when you're not actually being that helpful.
>> (That's OK because that's where we come in). According to Redditors, here
>> are eight common mistakes people make when they're trying to help:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Helping without asking.
>>
>> "I love when people help me, but please always ask first, and if I say, 'No
>> thanks, I've got it,' then go on with your day. Or better yet, strike up a
>> conversation!"
>>
>> "A friend of a friend of mine who [uses a wheelchair] told us how people
>> constantly offer to push her to her destination, and often times go to start
>> push (sic) her along. One person said, 'I'm helping!' as he started pushing
>> her in her chair. She yelled back, 'No, you're kidnapping!!' He stopped."
>>
>> 2. Changing the way you talk.
>>
>> "A wheelchair doesn't make someone hard of hearing. Or stupid. Stop acting
>> like it does."
>>
>> "I'm hearing impaired (or hard of hearing, as the Deaf community prefers to
>> put it). Do. Not. Yell at top volume, reeeaaaaaallllllly painfully slow.
>> Just like it isn't going to help a Spanish person understand the English you
>> are speaking, it's going to make you look real stupid to me. and everyone
>> else we are around. It might work for you with Grandma, but I'm not your
>> granny. Face me so I can read your lips, speak sharp and speak clear and we
>> cool."
>>
>> "Don't bend down to my level to talk to me, I can hear you perfectly well,
>> and it's incredibly demeaning."
>>
>> "I have an autism spectrum disorder. Just talk to me like you would anyone
>> else, and if I need something explained to me, I will ask. It's that
>> simple."
>>
>> 3. Saying "But you don't look [disabled, sick, etc.]"
>>
>> "'But you don't look sick.' 'Well you don't look like a doctor, but that's
>> just my opinion.'"
>>
>> "The thing is, people without visible disabilities. often hear 'But you
>> don't look sick' as an excuse for the person saying it to not take the
>> condition seriously or not give proper accommodations. In those cases it's
>> not a compliment, it's an accusation. It happens way more often than you'd
>> expect, and since it's not just annoying but often an obstacle to actually
>> getting the help needed to get on with your life, it gets old fast."
>>
>> 4. Feeling sorry.
>>
>> "I don't want to be pitied for something I can't do anything about. It makes
>> me feel less human/inferior."
>>
>> "Pity is condescending, it ignores a person's talents, relationships,
>> accomplishments and joys and paints them as nothing more than a thing that
>> suffers."
>>
>> 5. Offering medical advice.
>>
>> "My husband has chronic migraines. I can't tell you the number of times
>> someone suggests f**king Excedrin. 'Oh really? I've lived with migraines for
>> 20 years and I never thought to try over-the-counter Excedrin! Tell me more
>> about how it helped you with a really bad headache once.'"
>>
>> "Someone told me cashews could cure depression. I. may not have been the
>> most tactful in my response."
>>
>> "Believe me, unless you are a researcher who specializes in my condition,
>> you probably don't know more about treatments than me."
>>
>> 6. Calling a person "inspiring" or "brave."
>>
>> "I laugh when people call me an inspiration. If they only knew. No Hallmark
>> movies to be made about me anytime soon. lol"
>>
>> "This! I'm being praised for going to university and doing normal random
>> everyday stuff.What am I supposed to do, sit on my ass all day and wait to
>> die?"
>>
>> "There's nothing brave or strong about it. I exist. My strength and courage
>> comes from what I do. Not what I am."
>>
>> 7. Shrugging off an illness you can't see.
>>
>> "I have a chronic pain condition. Please don't tell me it's all in my head.
>> Everything we experience, we experience through the brain. Of course it's in
>> my head."
>>
>> "Just because someone looks OK to you, doesn't mean you should treat them
>> like they're faking it."
>>
>> 8. Avoiding eye contact or keeping your questions to yourself.
>>
>> "I have some form of Tourette's syndrome. I love questions. Questions show
>> concern and interest, and that is (for me at least) infinitely more
>> preferable than awkward tension."
>>
>> "I only have one eye. Look, I already know I look different. I understand
>> that your kid is curious. That's a good thing. Let me answer their
>> questions. They can learn something and find out that I'm still a nice guy
>> even though I look different. Don't make them feel afraid to talk to people
>> who don't look exactly like them."
>>
>> But remember, everyone is different.
>>
>> "Many of the things that some people don't want could likewise be things
>> others might welcome. The point is, everyone is different and has different
>> needs and feelings about their situation in life. My advice is engage in a
>> conversation and ask if there is anything you can do. If the answer is yes,
>> help. If the answer is no, fine. This applies to everyone - not just those
>> people with a clear physical impairment."
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 19:51:51 -0500
>> From: "nancy Lynn" <seabreeze.stl at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] 8 helpful things THAT DON'T REALLY HELP
>> PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES
>> Message-ID: <B5B89C9A3CD249C6A716C194E04FAD3E at nancyPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Sure. I got it from another list and sent it around.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 5:36 PM
>> To: 'NFB of California List'
>> Cc: Michael Hingson
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] 8 helpful things THAT DON'T REALLY HELP PEOPLEWITH
>> DISABILITIES
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> May this be disseminated?
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of nancy
>> Lynn via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 2:23 AM
>> To: mcb chat <chat at moblind.org>; nfbmo list <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>; NFBC List
>> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: nancy Lynn <seabreeze.stl at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] 8 helpful things THAT DON'T REALLY HELP PEOPLE WITH
>> DISABILITIES
>>
>> An interesting conversation picked up on Reddit this week when a user posted
>> the following question to people with disabilities: "What is something that
>> we (presumably people without disabilities) do that we think helps, but it
>> really doesn't?" In just a day, more than 9,000 comments rolled in, and
>> people living with all types of health conditions - from physical
>> disabilities to developmental delays to invisible illnesses - offered a lot
>> of great insight.
>>
>>
>> If you're unfamiliar with what it's like to live with a health condition,
>> you may not even realize when you're not actually being that helpful.
>> (That's OK because that's where we come in). According to Redditors, here
>> are eight common mistakes people make when they're trying to help:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Helping without asking.
>>
>> "I love when people help me, but please always ask first, and if I say, 'No
>> thanks, I've got it,' then go on with your day. Or better yet, strike up a
>> conversation!"
>>
>> "A friend of a friend of mine who [uses a wheelchair] told us how people
>> constantly offer to push her to her destination, and often times go to start
>> push (sic) her along. One person said, 'I'm helping!' as he started pushing
>> her in her chair. She yelled back, 'No, you're kidnapping!!' He stopped."
>>
>> 2. Changing the way you talk.
>>
>> "A wheelchair doesn't make someone hard of hearing. Or stupid. Stop acting
>> like it does."
>>
>> "I'm hearing impaired (or hard of hearing, as the Deaf community prefers to
>> put it). Do. Not. Yell at top volume, reeeaaaaaallllllly painfully slow.
>> Just like it isn't going to help a Spanish person understand the English you
>> are speaking, it's going to make you look real stupid to me. and everyone
>> else we are around. It might work for you with Grandma, but I'm not your
>> granny. Face me so I can read your lips, speak sharp and speak clear and we
>> cool."
>>
>> "Don't bend down to my level to talk to me, I can hear you perfectly well,
>> and it's incredibly demeaning."
>>
>> "I have an autism spectrum disorder. Just talk to me like you would anyone
>> else, and if I need something explained to me, I will ask. It's that
>> simple."
>>
>> 3. Saying "But you don't look [disabled, sick, etc.]"
>>
>> "'But you don't look sick.' 'Well you don't look like a doctor, but that's
>> just my opinion.'"
>>
>> "The thing is, people without visible disabilities. often hear 'But you
>> don't look sick' as an excuse for the person saying it to not take the
>> condition seriously or not give proper accommodations. In those cases it's
>> not a compliment, it's an accusation. It happens way more often than you'd
>> expect, and since it's not just annoying but often an obstacle to actually
>> getting the help needed to get on with your life, it gets old fast."
>>
>> 4. Feeling sorry.
>>
>> "I don't want to be pitied for something I can't do anything about. It makes
>> me feel less human/inferior."
>>
>> "Pity is condescending, it ignores a person's talents, relationships,
>> accomplishments and joys and paints them as nothing more than a thing that
>> suffers."
>>
>> 5. Offering medical advice.
>>
>> "My husband has chronic migraines. I can't tell you the number of times
>> someone suggests f**king Excedrin. 'Oh really? I've lived with migraines for
>> 20 years and I never thought to try over-the-counter Excedrin! Tell me more
>> about how it helped you with a really bad headache once.'"
>>
>> "Someone told me cashews could cure depression. I. may not have been the
>> most tactful in my response."
>>
>> "Believe me, unless you are a researcher who specializes in my condition,
>> you probably don't know more about treatments than me."
>>
>> 6. Calling a person "inspiring" or "brave."
>>
>> "I laugh when people call me an inspiration. If they only knew. No Hallmark
>> movies to be made about me anytime soon. lol"
>>
>> "This! I'm being praised for going to university and doing normal random
>> everyday stuff.What am I supposed to do, sit on my ass all day and wait to
>> die?"
>>
>> "There's nothing brave or strong about it. I exist. My strength and courage
>> comes from what I do. Not what I am."
>>
>> 7. Shrugging off an illness you can't see.
>>
>> "I have a chronic pain condition. Please don't tell me it's all in my head.
>> Everything we experience, we experience through the brain. Of course it's in
>> my head."
>>
>> "Just because someone looks OK to you, doesn't mean you should treat them
>> like they're faking it."
>>
>> 8. Avoiding eye contact or keeping your questions to yourself.
>>
>> "I have some form of Tourette's syndrome. I love questions. Questions show
>> concern and interest, and that is (for me at least) infinitely more
>> preferable than awkward tension."
>>
>> "I only have one eye. Look, I already know I look different. I understand
>> that your kid is curious. That's a good thing. Let me answer their
>> questions. They can learn something and find out that I'm still a nice guy
>> even though I look different. Don't make them feel afraid to talk to people
>> who don't look exactly like them."
>>
>> But remember, everyone is different.
>>
>> "Many of the things that some people don't want could likewise be things
>> others might welcome. The point is, everyone is different and has different
>> needs and feelings about their situation in life. My advice is engage in a
>> conversation and ask if there is anything you can do. If the answer is yes,
>> help. If the answer is no, fine. This applies to everyone - not just those
>> people with a clear physical impairment."
>> _______________________________________________
>> NFBC-Info mailing list
>> NFBC-Info at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbc-info_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 19:54:12 -0500
>> From: "nancy Lynn" <seabreeze.stl at gmail.com>
>> To: "nfbmo list" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>, "NFBC List"
>> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With President
>> Riccobono Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention
>> Message-ID: <6910418D9C2C4A0CA4DBBB0FD6632F02 at nancyPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Tai Tomasi via Nfbnet-members-list
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:48 PM
>> To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With President Riccobono Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention
>>
>>
>> If you are attending the National Federation of the Blind convention and are interested in issues affecting the blind LGBT+ population, please come to a meeting with President Mark Riccobono on Saturday July 2 from 5:30 to 6:30 P.M. in Panzacola Ballroom F-1. Spread the word. For questions, please contact Tai at (515) 710-4402 or email tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 20:54:05 -0700
>> From: "Charles Krugman" <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With
>> PresidentRiccobono Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention
>> Message-ID: <040BE3EE05BD467DA6801896510C6500 at Spike>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> the fact that such a meeting is taking place is a major step forward for
>> NFB.
>> Chuck
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nancy Lynn via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 5:54 PM
>> To: nfbmo list ; NFBC List
>> Cc: nancy Lynn
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With
>> PresidentRiccobono Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Tai Tomasi via Nfbnet-members-list
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:48 PM
>> To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With President Riccobono Regarding
>> LGBT Issues at National Convention
>>
>>
>> If you are attending the National Federation of the Blind convention and are
>> interested in issues affecting the blind LGBT+ population, please come to a
>> meeting with President Mark Riccobono on Saturday July 2 from 5:30 to 6:30
>> P.M. in Panzacola Ballroom F-1. Spread the word. For questions, please
>> contact Tai at (515) 710-4402 or email tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:47:29 -0700
>> From: Lisa Irving <peacefulwoman89 at cox.net>
>> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With
>> PresidentRiccobono Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention
>> Message-ID: <9B217424-C04F-4014-8DEB-61AD0ECD8FD7 at cox.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> I thoroughly applied president Ricca Bonow's desire to have an open conversation regarding the LGBT queue humidity within the NFB
>>
>> Thoughtfully,
>> Lisa Irving chapter president
>> National Federation Of The Blind of California San Diego Chapter
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Charles Krugman via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> the fact that such a meeting is taking place is a major step forward for NFB.
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: nancy Lynn via NFBC-Info
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 5:54 PM
>>> To: nfbmo list ; NFBC List
>>> Cc: nancy Lynn
>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With PresidentRiccobono Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Tai Tomasi via Nfbnet-members-list
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:48 PM
>>> To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With President Riccobono Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention
>>>
>>>
>>> If you are attending the National Federation of the Blind convention and are interested in issues affecting the blind LGBT+ population, please come to a meeting with President Mark Riccobono on Saturday July 2 from 5:30 to 6:30 P.M. in Panzacola Ballroom F-1. Spread the word. For questions, please contact Tai at (515) 710-4402 or email tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 02:09:49 -0700
>> From: "Lauren Merryfield" <lauren at catlines.com>
>> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With
>> PresidentRiccobono Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention
>> Message-ID: <013401d1ca0a$5523ac60$ff6b0520$@catlines.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Hi,
>> Some women tried years ago but when a women's group was forming, straight
>> women became angry that lesbians were trying to run it when, as far as I
>> know, they were just trying to attain equal opportunity. Nothing much
>> happened for years and years after that. I would think it could be good for
>> lgbt people to find each other and deal in a group with their specific
>> issues.
>> Thanks,
>> Lauren
>>
>> Blessings in Jesus' name:
>> But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy,
>> peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and
>> self-control. There is no law against these things!
>> --Galatians 5:22-23, NLT
>> My digital evangelism blog is at:
>> w w w . ask in jesus name . org (remove the spaces).
>> Advice from my cats:"meow when you feel like it."
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Charles
>> Krugman via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 8:54 PM
>> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Charles Krugman <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With
>> PresidentRiccobono Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention
>>
>> the fact that such a meeting is taking place is a major step forward for
>> NFB.
>> Chuck
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nancy Lynn via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 5:54 PM
>> To: nfbmo list ; NFBC List
>> Cc: nancy Lynn
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Fw: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With
>> PresidentRiccobono Regarding LGBT Issues at National Convention
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Tai Tomasi via Nfbnet-members-list
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:48 PM
>> To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] Meeting With President Riccobono Regarding
>> LGBT Issues at National Convention
>>
>>
>> If you are attending the National Federation of the Blind convention and are
>>
>> interested in issues affecting the blind LGBT+ population, please come to a
>> meeting with President Mark Riccobono on Saturday July 2 from 5:30 to 6:30
>> P.M. in Panzacola Ballroom F-1. Spread the word. For questions, please
>> contact Tai at (515) 710-4402 or email tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:40:14 -0700
> From: "Allison Depner" <adepner1425 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium
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> Hey, I forgot to mention one very important thing. Thank you Lisa for making the transportation arrangements. It can be tricky to coordinate schedules. I appreciate you taking that duty off my hads.
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> Alley
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> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 12:09 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium
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> Hello, I would like to add to Alice's wonderful commentary. First I really appreciate all of her hard work and pulling together this trip. She has been planning this outing for about three months.
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> I particularly enjoyed learning about the Monterey aquarium's phone app which enables those of us who eat fish to choose fish that are sustainable. For those of you going to Orlando you may wish to try the delicacy a lionfish. Who would think of eating a lion fish? Well they are overtaking that area of the United States. And that is why restaurants are putting together delicious menu options.
>
> We were also able to feel a raised timeline that shows the depletion of CO2 in the atmosphere. Additionally we were able to see colorful fish and learn that some fish I forget which grow up to 300 pounds. We used to think that's a lot of tacos however this fish was still a very young fish.
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> I really enjoyed the fact that our young Chapter family joined us. It was fun to once again hold a toddler who squealed with the light it's seeing the various fish float around.
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> About a year ago one of our chapter members Kyle what are began the practice of something called brags and rags. Basically you pay to brag or you pay to drag. We were able to use this petty cash to pay for the tickets for both volunteers. We also purchased their lunch.
>
> Once again, thank you very much Allison and Depner for putting together this amazing day at the aquarium.
>
> Thoughtfully,
> Lisa Irving, Chapter President
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> It sounds like all of you had a great time. Congrats. It is great to
>> dream the dream and live the lives we want.
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>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Allison Depner via NFBC-Info
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>> Cc: Allison Depner <adepner1425 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] NFBC,SD Chapter Outing to the Birch Aquarium
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>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is a description of a recent San Diego Chapter outing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Allison Depner
>>
>> You Can Live the Life You Want!
>>
>> NFBC,SD Chapter Trip to the Birch Aquarium
>>
>>
>>
>> Yesterday, Saturday, June 18, several of the local chapter of the
>> National Federation of the Blind visited the Birch Aquarium in La
>> Jolla. Thanks to the assistance provided by 2 Delta-Gamma Sorority
>> alumnae, (Jennifer and Cara),
>>
>> and an aquarium volunteer, our visit was a great success! Kayla, the
>> aquarium volunteer gave us an hour long guided tour packed with
>> fascinating facts. Thank you Kayla for this generous contribution to
>> our tour . We realize that such a tour usually costs a great deal of
>> money, and we deeply appreciate the effort of the Birch Staff to make
>> sure we were able to enjoy the facility as much as possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> At the end of the guided tour, We also had a chance to touch a
>> starfish, anemones, a sea cucumber, and a sea urchin. How cool is
>> that? BTW, the anemones felt like sticky plastic wrap. I thought the
>> Sea Urchin felt like a kind of cactus.
>>
>>
>>
>> After the guided tour wrapped up, the 2 Delta-Gamma volunteers helped
>> us look at some of the exhibits that hadn?t been covered by Kayla.
>> They did a great job with describing the fish and reading signage.
>>
>>
>>
>> No visit to such a venue is complete without a trip to the gift shop.
>> Again, Jennifer, and Cara did an exemplary job of telling us
>> everything that the gift shop had to offer.
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>> We topped off the Birch Aquarium with lunch at the Splash outdoor
>> caf?. I was impressed with how affordable the food was.
>>
>>
>>
>> We all had the same MTS bus to go home. On the way, Lisa thanked me
>> for setting up the visit and said she had enjoyed herself more than
>> she had for a very long time. The credit really goes to Birch
>> Aquarium for providing us with a discounted entrance fee and the
>> fabulous tour guide as well as to Cara and Jennifer who gave up their Saturday afternoon to work with us.
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>> Respectfully,
>>
>> NFBC,SD Secretary Allison Depner
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>> (619) 952-2352
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>> You can live the life you Want.
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> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
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> If you look in the agenda you will see that the sports and rec
> division has several things planned, and there is at least one
> dance. And ... all that walking from meeting to meeting!
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> Dave
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> At 05:23 PM 6/19/2016, you wrote:
>> You know our conventions are definitely characterized by prolonged
>> sitting. This is not good as it is likely to lead to heart disease
>> and diabetes. So therefore I have this question that I want to throw
>> out there to the list serve. What activities are we planning for the
>> 2014 convention that involve sports, recreation, and exercise? I
>> liked what we did last year up in the Bay Area and I do not want
>> that to end that is a good trend that we started last year we had a
>> dance I loved it. I mean you wouldn't like any of us to end up with
>> diabetes or heart disease would you?
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> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 17:22:04 -0700
> From: "Michael Hingson" <mike at michaelhingson.com>
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> I may be incorrect David, but I think Jordan was referring to the California
> convention.
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> Best Regards,
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> Michael Hingson
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> If you look in the agenda you will see that the sports and rec division has
> several things planned, and there is at least one dance. And ... all that
> walking from meeting to meeting!
>
> Dave
>
> At 05:23 PM 6/19/2016, you wrote:
>> You know our conventions are definitely characterized by prolonged
>> sitting. This is not good as it is likely to lead to heart disease and
>> diabetes. So therefore I have this question that I want to throw out
>> there to the list serve. What activities are we planning for the
>> 2014 convention that involve sports, recreation, and exercise? I
>> liked what we did last year up in the Bay Area and I do not want that
>> to end that is a good trend that we started last year we had a dance I
>> loved it. I mean you wouldn't like any of us to end up with diabetes or
>> heart disease would you?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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