[Nfbc-info] Nfbc-info Digest, Vol 132, Issue 16
Jordan Mirander
jordanmirander at icloud.com
Mon May 16 04:07:47 UTC 2016
Wow, Jesus, prices for laundry have soared since I used to live on my own in 2002. I am just remarking on what one of my listers said. $6 per load that's rediculous. Too bad your apartment complex does not use technology like that used at Wells Fargo automatic teller machines. Where I can walk up to the automatic teller machine, and insert my card, and it says, "Welcome to Wells Fargo." It asks me for my ATM pin, and I enter it. It guides me through the prompts speaking to me every step. You'd think they could implement or invent something similar to that where you plug in headphones and a screen reader I like Jaws comes on and says welcome to wave vision. What I believe that companies are liable legally to let blind people know about prices in pricing information I mean employers are liable and they have to provide accommodations to the same old like I heard that all employers and companies must test blind people based on their ability instead of their disability and provide reasonable accommodation I think it should be the same for companies to let wave vision I feel must be required to provide adequate accommodation and let blind people know about their prices
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> 1. Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Community Service project for May,
> please read!!!! (Rochelle Houston)
> 2. Re: 3-hole punched tractor feed braille paper (Lauren Merryfield)
> 3. Re: 3-hole punched tractor feed braille paper (Jana Littrell)
> 4. Re: 3-hole punched tractor feed braille paper
> (Fred's Win7 Catastrophe)
> 5. Re: 3-hole punched tractor feed braille paper (Eileen Misrahi)
> 6. Re: Nfbc-info Digest, Vol 132, Issue 13 (Jordan Mirander)
> 7. including deaf-blind individuals at chapter meetings (Lisa Irving)
> 8. Today's San Diego Chapter meeting (Lisa Irving)
> 9. adapting board games (Lisa Irving)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 09:04:04 -0700
> From: Rochelle Houston <rhouston58 at gmail.com>
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> Cc: Rochelle Houston <rhouston58 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Community Service
> project for May, please read!!!!
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>> From: Dacia Cole via Nfbnet-members-list <nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: May 6, 2016 at 1:00:41 PM PDT
>> To: nfbnet-members-list <nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] Community Service project for May, please read!!!!
>> Reply-To: Dacia Cole <dacia.luck at gmail.com>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I am writing to you on behalf of the Community Service division and as
>> the chairperson of the #NFB4mserve project. Below you will find all
>> you need about this project and how to get involved. Please share far
>> and wide and participate in the calls. Our next call is May 15 at
>> 8:30 PM easterntime. I will also attach the flyer to this email so
>> you can email it to others.
>> Let me know if you have questions.
>> Dacia
>>
>> The National Federation of theBlind Community Service Division presents:
>>
>> May The Mission, The Movement,, The Milestone (NFB4MServe).
>>
>> This is a Month long effort in which:
>>
>> The mission is to give of our talents and skills to people and places
>> in our communities. We want our sighted friends and neighbors to
>> understand that the blind can and do give, and are not always the
>> ?takers? society might have us be.
>>
>> The movement is all of us as the organized blind furthering our
>> message through community service that blindness is not the
>> characteristic that defines us or our future. It is also us coming
>> together to support each other as we find the ways we will give back
>> along side our sighted peers.
>>
>> The milestone is the results; the raising of expectations of the
>> blind and the celebration of the difference that we will have made as
>> a federation family by coming together to share our successes and work
>> through our obstacles in order to ultimately strengthen the
>> Federation and break down barriers to full participation in society.
>>
>> You can take part in this project individually or with your chapter ,
>> by engaging in a community service project, such as
>> volunteering for a nonprofit organization, local church or school, or
>> helping those in need in your neighborhood. Participants will be able
>> to share ideas and receive support during bi-weekly conference calls,
>> use the hashtag #NFB4MServe to tweet about their community service
>> activities
>> , and will also have the opportunity to write about
>> their experiences on the National Community Service Division?s
>> official blog, www.nfbcommunityservice.org/blog. The purpose of the
>> blog is to communicate to society that the blind are active
>> participants, contributors and collaborators in society. The Blog
>> is a outlet through which we showcase by way of community
>> Service/volunteerism what we believe in the Federation, that we as
>> blind people can live the life we want and that blindness isn?t what
>> holds us bak from doing so. .
>> The first call will take place on Sunday, May 1, at 8:30 pm EST. The
>> Call- in information for this, and all other calls is as follows:
>> (712)432-0140 and the access code is 808277. The
>> specific dates of each call are as follows:
>> Sunday, 5/1: 8:30 pm Eastern/5:30 pm Pacific
>> Sunday, 5/15: 8:30pm Eastern/5:30 pm Pacific.
>> Tuesday, 5/31: 8:30 pm Eastern/5:30 pm Pacific.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are interested in being a part of this exciting project, you
>> can:
>> 1. join any of the above mentioned calls at the times listed.
>> 2. check out our website at www.nfbcommunityservice.org.
>> 3. follow us on twitter at ?@nfbcsdivision?.
>> 4. join our Facebook page by searching for ?National Federation of the
>> Blind Community Service division..
>> We Hope you are as excited to get started as we are to get this going!
>> Should you have any questions over the course of this effort, please
>> do not hesitate to email us at nfb4mserve at nfbcommunityservice.org.
>> Yours in the Movement,
>> The #NFB4Mserve Leadership Team.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 10:39:00 -0700
> From: "Lauren Merryfield" <lauren at catlines.com>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] 3-hole punched tractor feed braille paper
> Message-ID: <00d901d1ae07$8047ac80$80d70580$@catlines.com>
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> Hi,
> I checked out American Thermoform however, they did not have any paper that
> I could find with the 3 holes.
> Thanks
> Lauren
>
> Blessings in Jesus' name:
> But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy,
> peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and
> self-control. There is no law against these things!
> --Galatians 5:22-23, NLT
> My digital evangelism blog is at:
> w w w . ask in jesus name . org (remove the spaces).
> Advice from my cats:"meow when you feel like it."
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
> Andrews via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 10:00 AM
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>; NFB of California List
> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] 3-hole punched tractor feed braille paper
>
> The best source for a wide variety of Braille paper is American Thermoform,
> I think.
>
> Dave
>
> At 09:50 PM 5/12/2016, Nancy Lynn via Nfbc-info wrote:
>> You can always try either A.P.H or NBP.
>
> David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 11:30:04 -0700
> From: "Jana Littrell" <janadlittrell at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] 3-hole punched tractor feed braille paper
> Message-ID: <005e01d1ae0e$a2d7c580$e8875080$@gmail.com>
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> Try APH.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
> Merryfield via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 10:39 AM
> To: 'NFB of California List' <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Lauren Merryfield <lauren at catlines.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] 3-hole punched tractor feed braille paper
>
> Hi,
> I checked out American Thermoform however, they did not have any paper that
> I could find with the 3 holes.
> Thanks
> Lauren
>
> Blessings in Jesus' name:
> But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy,
> peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and
> self-control. There is no law against these things!
> --Galatians 5:22-23, NLT
> My digital evangelism blog is at:
> w w w . ask in jesus name . org (remove the spaces).
> Advice from my cats:"meow when you feel like it."
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
> Andrews via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 10:00 AM
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>; NFB of California List
> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] 3-hole punched tractor feed braille paper
>
> The best source for a wide variety of Braille paper is American Thermoform,
> I think.
>
> Dave
>
> At 09:50 PM 5/12/2016, Nancy Lynn via Nfbc-info wrote:
>> You can always try either A.P.H or NBP.
>
> David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
> E-Mail: dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 13:31:32 -0700
> From: Fred's Win7 Catastrophe <regenerative at earthlink.net>
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] 3-hole punched tractor feed braille paper
> Message-ID: <E1b1gEW-0006r4-SW at elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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> Hello again Federationists!
> Do blind people have a right to know prices, and what amount is being
> deducted from our debit cards? Do you know what accessible
> commercial washer and dryer technology is available?
> Under new management, my apartment complex switched to new washers
> and dryers in our laundry room. Big front loading Speedqueens, each
> machine has 2-digital displays, and instead of Quarters, they require
> a debit card.
> I kinda have the card swipe figured out, but cannot read that
> display. It'll say things like, "Please swipe card," "Authorizing,"
> "No Balance," and who knows what else. I'd like that info to be
> spoken, but it's not essential.
> The other display shows different prices as I select different
> washing or drying options, then it'll begin a countdown clock once
> the machine is running. I would like to know the prices, and what
> amount is being sucked out of my card account.
> Are there any accessible versions of these stupid machines?
> Do I have a legal right to know prices and debits before I authorize
> them? Do I have a Legal Right to know when and how much I'm spending on what?
> The vendor that we are leasing or bought these junky monsters from
> says they've never heard of such a thing. (Wasn't there a Superbowl
> ad that showed talking appliances?)
>
> Part of that vending company is called WashView or WaveVision, and I
> can supposedly monitor our laundry room through
> <http://www.washview.com>www.washview.com. That's a feature for
> people who cannot tell time, I assume. HaHaHaHeeheehaw! Also
> seems odd that a company that calls itself "WaveVision," wouldn't put
> a little thought into nonvisual access!
>
> To add insult to injury, a load of wash and dry used to cost
> $1.75-total. The new machines cost me about $6-total.
>
> Please feel free to pass this email on to others who may be helpful!
>
> Fred
> near San Diego
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 15:17:24 -0700
> From: Eileen Misrahi <eileenmis at dslextreme.com>
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] 3-hole punched tractor feed braille paper
> Message-ID: <41DC2369-D86E-406B-BEA8-14337D65E06F at dslextreme.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi Fred,
>
> I acknowledge your frustration, but unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world. One suggestion that I have in regards to accessing the amount various wash prices is to use the app on your phone called "BeMyEyes." That's if you have access to a iPhone. This app has assisted me in the past with several digital devices that do not have voice output. I'm wondering if at the next state convention a resolution could be drafted to address commercial appliances that are installed in public facilities such as apartments and/or public vending machines. Just a thought initiate a change for all.
>
> Best,
> Eileen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 14, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Fred's Win7 Catastrophe via Nfbc-info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello again Federationists!
>> Do blind people have a right to know prices, and what amount is being deducted from our debit cards? Do you know what accessible commercial washer and dryer technology is available?
>> Under new management, my apartment complex switched to new washers and dryers in our laundry room. Big front loading Speedqueens, each machine has 2-digital displays, and instead of Quarters, they require a debit card.
>> I kinda have the card swipe figured out, but cannot read that display. It'll say things like, "Please swipe card," "Authorizing," "No Balance," and who knows what else. I'd like that info to be spoken, but it's not essential.
>> The other display shows different prices as I select different washing or drying options, then it'll begin a countdown clock once the machine is running. I would like to know the prices, and what amount is being sucked out of my card account.
>> Are there any accessible versions of these stupid machines?
>> Do I have a legal right to know prices and debits before I authorize them? Do I have a Legal Right to know when and how much I'm spending on what?
>> The vendor that we are leasing or bought these junky monsters from says they've never heard of such a thing. (Wasn't there a Superbowl ad that showed talking appliances?)
>>
>> Part of that vending company is called WashView or WaveVision, and I can supposedly monitor our laundry room through <http://www.washview.com>www.washview.com. That's a feature for people who cannot tell time, I assume. HaHaHaHeeheehaw! Also seems odd that a company that calls itself "WaveVision," wouldn't put a little thought into nonvisual access!
>>
>> To add insult to injury, a load of wash and dry used to cost $1.75-total. The new machines cost me about $6-total.
>>
>> Please feel free to pass this email on to others who may be helpful!
>>
>> Fred
>> near San Diego
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 18:52:41 -0700
> From: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Nfbc-info Digest, Vol 132, Issue 13
> Message-ID: <E75D7ECE-7FCC-4C0D-8DA0-9DDBAFCE5A54 at icloud.com>
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> I hear that there will be a bell academy conference call on May 15, is that true?
>
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>> 1. Reminder: Next meeting of the At Large Chapter tomorrow night
>> (Mary Willows)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 17:43:01 -0700
>> From: "Mary Willows" <mwillows at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Reminder: Next meeting of the At Large Chapter
>> tomorrow night
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>> Hello All:
>>
>>
>>
>> Only 50 days until the greatest gathering of blind people and other
>> interested parties. Join us on a conference call tomorrow night to make
>> plans for the 2016 convention of the National Federation of the Blind in
>> Orlando, Florida and hear all about what you can learn there.
>>
>>
>>
>> The purpose of the At Large Chapter is to give those who cannot get to
>> regular monthly chapter meetings to have an opportunity to be kept informed
>> and up to date on issues concerning blind people. This month is no
>> acception. We have been devoting part of the conference call to a
>> technology instruction from Assistive Technology Instructor and Second
>> Vice-president, Robert Stigile. This month, Robert will teach us how to
>> back up our phones and why that is important to us.
>>
>>
>>
>> See you at 7:00 P.M. on Thursday, May 12.
>>
>> (712)432-0175 access code 184220 pound.
>>
>>
>>
>> The National Federation of the blind knows that blindness is not the
>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
>> expectations of blind people because low expectations create obstacles
>> between blind people and our dreams.
>>
>> You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back.
>>
>>
>>
>> National Federation of the Blind of California (NFBC)
>>
>> 3934 Kern Court
>>
>> Pleasanton, CA 94588
>>
>> 925-462-8575
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Mary Willows, President NFBC
>>
>> <mailto:mwillows at sbcglobal.net> mwillows at sbcglobal.net
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>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 01:11:23 -0700
> From: "Lisa Irving" <peacefulwoman89 at cox.net>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] including deaf-blind individuals at chapter
> meetings
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> Hello,
>
>
>
> This evening I received a troubleing message from one of our members. The
> member is deaf-blind to the extent that he feels it'stoo difficult to hear
> what's being said.
>
>
>
> Chapter presidents, how do you make it work to actively include deaf-blind
> members. I really don't want to see this man walk away.
>
>
>
> From,
>
> Lisa Irving, S. D. Chapter President
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 01:20:40 -0700
> From: "Lisa Irving" <peacefulwoman89 at cox.net>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Today's San Diego Chapter meeting
> Message-ID: <004501d1ae82$aab00960$00101c20$@cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Today was a great meeting. One of our board members HAVA, Helping Americans
> Vote Act. The information is very timely given that the Calif. Primary
> election is next month. Our chapter secretary did an excellent presentation
> about very inexpensive and practical ways to organize the home. She'll
> probably kill me for telling all of you that her workshop would be an
> excellent workshop for state convention.
>
>
>
> We also voted in a young couple into the chapter. Daniel is an Assistive
> Technology Instructor and Elizabeth is a homemaker and mother to a highly
> energetic toddler. The couple is expecting their second child within the
> next couple of months. I foresee a baby shower down the road.
>
>
>
> From,
>
> Lisa Irving
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 01:29:23 -0700
> From: "Lisa Irving" <peacefulwoman89 at cox.net>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] adapting board games
> Message-ID: <005a01d1ae83$e27e6ca0$a77b45e0$@cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm wondering how to adapt or modify some group games. These games will be
> played sometimes by blind and visually impaired players and at other times,
> by my sighted friends from church and me. (For the most part, I rely on
> basic braille and speech output).
>
>
>
> Here are the games that I would like to play.
>
>
>
> Outburst
>
> Scattagories
>
> Apples to Apples
>
>
>
> From,
>
> Lisa Irving
>
>
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