[Nfbc-info] NFBC-Info Digest, Vol 145, Issue 9
Jordan Mirander
jordanmirander at icloud.com
Sun Jun 18 06:52:56 UTC 2017
Who is our benefactor in Florida? Can we suggest to the convention planning staff the manchester grand Hyatt in San Diego?
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> 1. Discussion (Jordan Mirander)
> 2. Re: Discussion (Michael Hingson)
> 3. Re: Discussion (Lori Noyes)
> 4. Re: Discussion (Jim Barbour)
> 5. Re: Discussion (Michael Hingson)
> 6. Re: Discussion (Lori N)
> 7. Re: Discussion (Michael Hingson)
> 8. Re: Discussion (Jim Barbour)
> 9. Re: Discussion (KEVIN VERDI)
> 10. Re: Discussion (Jim Barbour)
> 11. Re: Discussion (Charles Krugman)
> 12. Re: Discussion (KEVIN VERDI)
> 13. Re: Discussion (KEVIN VERDI)
> 14. Re: Discussion (Lori N)
> 15. Re: Discussion (Lyn Gwizdak)
> 16. Re: Discussion (Lisa Irving)
> 17. off list RE: Discussion (Michael Hingson)
> 18. Re: Discussion (Jim Barbour)
> 19. Fwd: [Community-service] National Federation of the Blind
> Community Service Division 2017 Convention Service Project: Last
> chance to sign up. (Kyra Sweeney)
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> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 07:02:56 -0700
> From: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
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> Hello all,
> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an item that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national convention in Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year of the national Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts. This and very happy about, because I do not see any reason why the West Coast cannot host a national convention. I mean after all we have Los Angeles Sacramento San Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some of the biggest cities in the nation. What do you guys think about bringing 2018, and 2019 national Federation of the blind national conventions to the West Coast? I mean come on guys I would love that if we could bring that together, and pull it off.
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 07:22:10 -0700
> From: "Michael Hingson" <mike at michaelhingson.com>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "'Jordan Mirander'" <jordanmirander at icloud.com>, "'Chun Chao'"
> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> To keep the discussion juices flowing:
>
> 1. I believe next year is the last year of the contract.
>
> 2. he first is price. Getting a price of $83 per room for the
> present convention hotel is tremendous and difficult to manage. The whole
> idea is to make the hotel as affordable as possible.
>
> Also, we need a hotel as large as possible to accommodate not only
> appropriate meeting space, but most of the guests. Most hotels can't do
> this.
>
> Now, Los Vegas is a good possibility. Possibly Reno and Los Angeles have
> hotels that would fit the size bill. San Francisco also would have a couple
> of hotels that would work. I believe Phoenix may also have a hotel or two.
> However, getting an affordable hotel makes the challenge greater.
>
> Having said all that it would be nice to have a hotel out here again.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Mirander via NFBC-Info
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> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>
> Hello all,
> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an item
> that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national convention in
> Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year of the national
> Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts. This and very happy
> about, because I do not see any reason why the West Coast cannot host a
> national convention. I mean after all we have Los Angeles Sacramento San
> Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some of the biggest cities in the
> nation. What do you guys think about bringing 2018, and 2019 national
> Federation of the blind national conventions to the West Coast? I mean come
> on guys I would love that if we could bring that together, and pull it off.
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 08:38:16 -0700
> From: Lori Noyes <emmetdog at gmail.com>
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Michael Hingson <mike at michaelhingson.com>, Chun Chao
> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>, Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> San Diego also has lots of hotel and convention space!
>
> Lori
>
> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:22 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> To keep the discussion juices flowing:
>
> 1. I believe next year is the last year of the contract.
>
> 2. he first is price. Getting a price of $83 per room for the
> present convention hotel is tremendous and difficult to manage. The whole
> idea is to make the hotel as affordable as possible.
>
> Also, we need a hotel as large as possible to accommodate not only
> appropriate meeting space, but most of the guests. Most hotels can't do
> this.
>
> Now, Los Vegas is a good possibility. Possibly Reno and Los Angeles have
> hotels that would fit the size bill. San Francisco also would have a couple
> of hotels that would work. I believe Phoenix may also have a hotel or two.
> However, getting an affordable hotel makes the challenge greater.
>
> Having said all that it would be nice to have a hotel out here again.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Mirander via NFBC-Info
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>
> Hello all,
> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an item
> that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national convention in
> Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year of the national
> Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts. This and very happy
> about, because I do not see any reason why the West Coast cannot host a
> national convention. I mean after all we have Los Angeles Sacramento San
> Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some of the biggest cities in the
> nation. What do you guys think about bringing 2018, and 2019 national
> Federation of the blind national conventions to the West Coast? I mean come
> on guys I would love that if we could bring that together, and pull it off.
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 08:52:20 -0700
> From: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Lori Noyes <emmetdog at gmail.com>, Chun Chao <zerone4148 at gmail.com>,
> Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> Yes, but that space is not cheap. San Diego is a very iN DEMAND tourist location around that time of year, so will be hard to get that space at a reasonable price.
>
> Keep in mind that the main reason we are in Florida for all this time is that we have a benefactor there who is willing to let us use his Hotel property at a very discounted rate.
>
> Jim
>
> Written While on the Move
>
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Lori Noyes via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> San Diego also has lots of hotel and convention space!
>>
>> Lori
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:22 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> To keep the discussion juices flowing:
>>
>> 1. I believe next year is the last year of the contract.
>>
>> 2. he first is price. Getting a price of $83 per room for the
>> present convention hotel is tremendous and difficult to manage. The whole
>> idea is to make the hotel as affordable as possible.
>>
>> Also, we need a hotel as large as possible to accommodate not only
>> appropriate meeting space, but most of the guests. Most hotels can't do
>> this.
>>
>> Now, Los Vegas is a good possibility. Possibly Reno and Los Angeles have
>> hotels that would fit the size bill. San Francisco also would have a couple
>> of hotels that would work. I believe Phoenix may also have a hotel or two.
>> However, getting an affordable hotel makes the challenge greater.
>>
>> Having said all that it would be nice to have a hotel out here again.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan
>> Mirander via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
>> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an item
>> that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national convention in
>> Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year of the national
>> Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts. This and very happy
>> about, because I do not see any reason why the West Coast cannot host a
>> national convention. I mean after all we have Los Angeles Sacramento San
>> Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some of the biggest cities in the
>> nation. What do you guys think about bringing 2018, and 2019 national
>> Federation of the blind national conventions to the West Coast? I mean come
>> on guys I would love that if we could bring that together, and pull it off.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 09:39:10 -0700
> From: "Michael Hingson" <mike at michaelhingson.com>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> It isn't just the space but how much space is in one location and how much
> it would cost to move people from one place to another if one hotel is not
> large enough.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
> Barbour via NFBC-Info
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 8:52 AM
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>; Chun Chao <zerone4148 at gmail.com>; Jordan
> Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>
> Yes, but that space is not cheap. San Diego is a very iN DEMAND tourist
> location around that time of year, so will be hard to get that space at a
> reasonable price.
>
> Keep in mind that the main reason we are in Florida for all this time is
> that we have a benefactor there who is willing to let us use his Hotel
> property at a very discounted rate.
>
> Jim
>
> Written While on the Move
>
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Lori Noyes via NFBC-Info
> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> San Diego also has lots of hotel and convention space!
>>
>> Lori
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:22 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info
> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> To keep the discussion juices flowing:
>>
>> 1. I believe next year is the last year of the contract.
>>
>> 2. he first is price. Getting a price of $83 per room for the
>> present convention hotel is tremendous and difficult to manage. The
>> whole idea is to make the hotel as affordable as possible.
>>
>> Also, we need a hotel as large as possible to accommodate not only
>> appropriate meeting space, but most of the guests. Most hotels can't
>> do this.
>>
>> Now, Los Vegas is a good possibility. Possibly Reno and Los Angeles
>> have hotels that would fit the size bill. San Francisco also would
>> have a couple of hotels that would work. I believe Phoenix may also have a
> hotel or two.
>> However, getting an affordable hotel makes the challenge greater.
>>
>> Having said all that it would be nice to have a hotel out here again.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Jordan Mirander via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
>> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an
>> item that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national
>> convention in Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year
>> of the national Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts.
>> This and very happy about, because I do not see any reason why the
>> West Coast cannot host a national convention. I mean after all we have
>> Los Angeles Sacramento San Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some
>> of the biggest cities in the nation. What do you guys think about
>> bringing 2018, and 2019 national Federation of the blind national
>> conventions to the West Coast? I mean come on guys I would love that if we
> could bring that together, and pull it off.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:10:31 -0700
> From: Lori N <emmetdog at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> How many people usually attend?
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> Sent from my iPhone 7
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>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> It isn't just the space but how much space is in one location and how much
>> it would cost to move people from one place to another if one hotel is not
>> large enough.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
>> Barbour via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 8:52 AM
>> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>; Chun Chao <zerone4148 at gmail.com>; Jordan
>> Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>
>> Yes, but that space is not cheap. San Diego is a very iN DEMAND tourist
>> location around that time of year, so will be hard to get that space at a
>> reasonable price.
>>
>> Keep in mind that the main reason we are in Florida for all this time is
>> that we have a benefactor there who is willing to let us use his Hotel
>> property at a very discounted rate.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Written While on the Move
>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Lori Noyes via NFBC-Info
>> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> San Diego also has lots of hotel and convention space!
>>>
>>> Lori
>>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:22 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info
>> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> To keep the discussion juices flowing:
>>>
>>> 1. I believe next year is the last year of the contract.
>>>
>>> 2. he first is price. Getting a price of $83 per room for the
>>> present convention hotel is tremendous and difficult to manage. The
>>> whole idea is to make the hotel as affordable as possible.
>>>
>>> Also, we need a hotel as large as possible to accommodate not only
>>> appropriate meeting space, but most of the guests. Most hotels can't
>>> do this.
>>>
>>> Now, Los Vegas is a good possibility. Possibly Reno and Los Angeles
>>> have hotels that would fit the size bill. San Francisco also would
>>> have a couple of hotels that would work. I believe Phoenix may also have a
>> hotel or two.
>>> However, getting an affordable hotel makes the challenge greater.
>>>
>>> Having said all that it would be nice to have a hotel out here again.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Hingson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Jordan Mirander via NFBC-Info
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
>>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
>>> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an
>>> item that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national
>>> convention in Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year
>>> of the national Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts.
>>> This and very happy about, because I do not see any reason why the
>>> West Coast cannot host a national convention. I mean after all we have
>>> Los Angeles Sacramento San Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some
>>> of the biggest cities in the nation. What do you guys think about
>>> bringing 2018, and 2019 national Federation of the blind national
>>> conventions to the West Coast? I mean come on guys I would love that if we
>> could bring that together, and pull it off.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:28:14 -0700
> From: "Michael Hingson" <mike at michaelhingson.com>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> Between 2,800 and 3,000.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> via NFBC-Info
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:11 AM
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Lori N <emmetdog at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>
> How many people usually attend?
>
> Sent from my iPhone 7
>
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info
> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> It isn't just the space but how much space is in one location and how
>> much it would cost to move people from one place to another if one
>> hotel is not large enough.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
>> Barbour via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 8:52 AM
>> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>; Chun Chao <zerone4148 at gmail.com>;
>> Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>
>> Yes, but that space is not cheap. San Diego is a very iN DEMAND
>> tourist location around that time of year, so will be hard to get that
>> space at a reasonable price.
>>
>> Keep in mind that the main reason we are in Florida for all this time
>> is that we have a benefactor there who is willing to let us use his
>> Hotel property at a very discounted rate.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Written While on the Move
>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Lori Noyes via NFBC-Info
>> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> San Diego also has lots of hotel and convention space!
>>>
>>> Lori
>>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:22 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info
>> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> To keep the discussion juices flowing:
>>>
>>> 1. I believe next year is the last year of the contract.
>>>
>>> 2. he first is price. Getting a price of $83 per room for the
>>> present convention hotel is tremendous and difficult to manage. The
>>> whole idea is to make the hotel as affordable as possible.
>>>
>>> Also, we need a hotel as large as possible to accommodate not only
>>> appropriate meeting space, but most of the guests. Most hotels can't
>>> do this.
>>>
>>> Now, Los Vegas is a good possibility. Possibly Reno and Los Angeles
>>> have hotels that would fit the size bill. San Francisco also would
>>> have a couple of hotels that would work. I believe Phoenix may also
>>> have a
>> hotel or two.
>>> However, getting an affordable hotel makes the challenge greater.
>>>
>>> Having said all that it would be nice to have a hotel out here again.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Hingson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Jordan Mirander via NFBC-Info
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
>>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
>>> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an
>>> item that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national
>>> convention in Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last
>>> year of the national Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts.
>>> This and very happy about, because I do not see any reason why the
>>> West Coast cannot host a national convention. I mean after all we
>>> have Los Angeles Sacramento San Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and
>>> Reno some of the biggest cities in the nation. What do you guys think
>>> about bringing 2018, and 2019 national Federation of the blind
>>> national conventions to the West Coast? I mean come on guys I would
>>> love that if we
>> could bring that together, and pull it off.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:36:08 -0700
> From: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> It's more than just how many people attend. That number is around 3000. However, there is a need for a large room that holds everyone, a banquet space to hold everyone plus many guests, and large number of smaller breakout rooms ? I can't say how many, but say 50 ? for various sessions. Plus, an exhibit space.
>
> Ideally, all the spaces have to be in a smallish area, four easy walking among them, plus easy walking access to the main hotel.
>
> The Manchester grand Hyatt, where CSUN his held, would likely be a good space.
>
> Again, it comes down to cost.
>
> Jim
>
> Written While on the Move
>
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Lori N via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> How many people usually attend?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> It isn't just the space but how much space is in one location and how much
>>> it would cost to move people from one place to another if one hotel is not
>>> large enough.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Hingson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
>>> Barbour via NFBC-Info
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 8:52 AM
>>> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>; Chun Chao <zerone4148 at gmail.com>; Jordan
>>> Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>>
>>> Yes, but that space is not cheap. San Diego is a very iN DEMAND tourist
>>> location around that time of year, so will be hard to get that space at a
>>> reasonable price.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind that the main reason we are in Florida for all this time is
>>> that we have a benefactor there who is willing to let us use his Hotel
>>> property at a very discounted rate.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Written While on the Move
>>>
>>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Lori Noyes via NFBC-Info
>>> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> San Diego also has lots of hotel and convention space!
>>>>
>>>> Lori
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:22 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info
>>> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> To keep the discussion juices flowing:
>>>>
>>>> 1. I believe next year is the last year of the contract.
>>>>
>>>> 2. he first is price. Getting a price of $83 per room for the
>>>> present convention hotel is tremendous and difficult to manage. The
>>>> whole idea is to make the hotel as affordable as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Also, we need a hotel as large as possible to accommodate not only
>>>> appropriate meeting space, but most of the guests. Most hotels can't
>>>> do this.
>>>>
>>>> Now, Los Vegas is a good possibility. Possibly Reno and Los Angeles
>>>> have hotels that would fit the size bill. San Francisco also would
>>>> have a couple of hotels that would work. I believe Phoenix may also have a
>>> hotel or two.
>>>> However, getting an affordable hotel makes the challenge greater.
>>>>
>>>> Having said all that it would be nice to have a hotel out here again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Hingson
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Jordan Mirander via NFBC-Info
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
>>>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
>>>> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an
>>>> item that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national
>>>> convention in Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year
>>>> of the national Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts.
>>>> This and very happy about, because I do not see any reason why the
>>>> West Coast cannot host a national convention. I mean after all we have
>>>> Los Angeles Sacramento San Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some
>>>> of the biggest cities in the nation. What do you guys think about
>>>> bringing 2018, and 2019 national Federation of the blind national
>>>> conventions to the West Coast? I mean come on guys I would love that if we
>>> could bring that together, and pull it off.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 19:01:53 +0000
> From: KEVIN VERDI <kvcrest at hotmail.com>
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Lori Noyes <emmetdog at gmail.com>, Chun Chao <zerone4148 at gmail.com>,
> "Jordan Mirander" <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> I live in the Southern California area. If someone can send me the particulars on convention space and hotel space needed. I am available to research it in Southern California, San Diego,and Las Vegas for suitable locations.
>
> My contact information is listed below. If I can be of assistance don't hesitate to call.
>
> ---
> Kevin Verdi
> 714.904.6708<tel:714.904.6708>
> KVCREST at hotmail.com
>
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> P. Please consider the environment before printing this message.
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>
> On Jun 14, 2017 at 8:38 AM, <Lori Noyes via NFBC-Info<mailto:nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>
>
> San Diego also has lots of hotel and convention space!
>
>
>
> Lori
>
>
>
> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:22 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> To keep the discussion juices flowing:
>
>
>
> 1. I believe next year is the last year of the contract.
>
>
>
> 2. he first is price. Getting a price of $83 per room for the
>
> present convention hotel is tremendous and difficult to manage. The whole
>
> idea is to make the hotel as affordable as possible.
>
>
>
> Also, we need a hotel as large as possible to accommodate not only
>
> appropriate meeting space, but most of the guests. Most hotels can't do
>
> this.
>
>
>
> Now, Los Vegas is a good possibility. Possibly Reno and Los Angeles have
>
> hotels that would fit the size bill. San Francisco also would have a couple
>
> of hotels that would work. I believe Phoenix may also have a hotel or two.
>
> However, getting an affordable hotel makes the challenge greater.
>
>
>
> Having said all that it would be nice to have a hotel out here again.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan
>
> Mirander via NFBC-Info
>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
>
> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>
> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
>
> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
>
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an item
>
> that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national convention in
>
> Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year of the national
>
> Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts. This and very happy
>
> about, because I do not see any reason why the West Coast cannot host a
>
> national convention. I mean after all we have Los Angeles Sacramento San
>
> Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some of the biggest cities in the
>
> nation. What do you guys think about bringing 2018, and 2019 national
>
> Federation of the blind national conventions to the West Coast? I mean come
>
> on guys I would love that if we could bring that together, and pull it off.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 12:14:32 -0700
> From: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: KEVIN VERDI <kvcrest at hotmail.com>, Chun Chao
> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>, Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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>
> That would not be up to us. The national office has a convention planning staff that does this research.
>
> Jim
>
> Written While on the Move
>
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:01 PM, KEVIN VERDI via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I live in the Southern California area. If someone can send me the particulars on convention space and hotel space needed. I am available to research it in Southern California, San Diego,and Las Vegas for suitable locations.
>>
>> My contact information is listed below. If I can be of assistance don't hesitate to call.
>>
>> ---
>> Kevin Verdi
>> 714.904.6708<tel:714.904.6708>
>> KVCREST at hotmail.com
>>
>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication.
>>
>>
>>
>> P. Please consider the environment before printing this message.
>>
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2017 at 8:38 AM, <Lori Noyes via NFBC-Info<mailto:nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> San Diego also has lots of hotel and convention space!
>>
>>
>>
>> Lori
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:22 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> To keep the discussion juices flowing:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. I believe next year is the last year of the contract.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. he first is price. Getting a price of $83 per room for the
>>
>> present convention hotel is tremendous and difficult to manage. The whole
>>
>> idea is to make the hotel as affordable as possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, we need a hotel as large as possible to accommodate not only
>>
>> appropriate meeting space, but most of the guests. Most hotels can't do
>>
>> this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now, Los Vegas is a good possibility. Possibly Reno and Los Angeles have
>>
>> hotels that would fit the size bill. San Francisco also would have a couple
>>
>> of hotels that would work. I believe Phoenix may also have a hotel or two.
>>
>> However, getting an affordable hotel makes the challenge greater.
>>
>>
>>
>> Having said all that it would be nice to have a hotel out here again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan
>>
>> Mirander via NFBC-Info
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
>>
>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>>
>> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
>>
>> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
>>
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an item
>>
>> that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national convention in
>>
>> Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year of the national
>>
>> Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts. This and very happy
>>
>> about, because I do not see any reason why the West Coast cannot host a
>>
>> national convention. I mean after all we have Los Angeles Sacramento San
>>
>> Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some of the biggest cities in the
>>
>> nation. What do you guys think about bringing 2018, and 2019 national
>>
>> Federation of the blind national conventions to the West Coast? I mean come
>>
>> on guys I would love that if we could bring that together, and pull it off.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> NFBC-Info mailing list
>>
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>>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 12:47:55 -0700
> From: "Charles Krugman" <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> Actually conventions are scheduled a few years ahead of time due to the
> large number of attendees. While it would be nice to have a convention on
> the west coast hotel rates in the cities you mentioned are the highest
> during the summer months and this is a factor that is considered when
> negotiating the best rate or deal that the Federation can get in providing
> accommodations to such a large number of attendees. I'm sure that west coast
> cities are considered but summer is tourist season in the cities you
> mentioned with the highest room rates in season.
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan
> Mirander via NFBC-Info
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>
> Hello all,
> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an item
> that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national convention in
> Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year of the national
> Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts. This and very happy
> about, because I do not see any reason why the West Coast cannot host a
> national convention. I mean after all we have Los Angeles Sacramento San
> Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some of the biggest cities in the
> nation. What do you guys think about bringing 2018, and 2019 national
> Federation of the blind national conventions to the West Coast? I mean come
> on guys I would love that if we could bring that together, and pull it off.
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 19:48:42 +0000
> From: KEVIN VERDI <kvcrest at hotmail.com>
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> I gather something this large is managed by a committee. Who is the chair?
> I don't want to change a working wheel but if there is an interest to explore other options. I am available to research them.
>
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> On Jun 14, 2017 at 11:36 AM, <Jim Barbour via NFBC-Info<mailto:nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>
>
> It's more than just how many people attend. That number is around 3000. However, there is a need for a large room that holds everyone, a banquet space to hold everyone plus many guests, and large number of smaller breakout rooms ? I can't say how many, but say 50 ? for various sessions. Plus, an exhibit space.
>
> Ideally, all the spaces have to be in a smallish area, four easy walking among them, plus easy walking access to the main hotel.
>
> The Manchester grand Hyatt, where CSUN his held, would likely be a good space.
>
> Again, it comes down to cost.
>
> Jim
>
> Written While on the Move
>
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Lori N via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> How many people usually attend?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> It isn't just the space but how much space is in one location and how much
>>> it would cost to move people from one place to another if one hotel is not
>>> large enough.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Hingson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
>>> Barbour via NFBC-Info
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 8:52 AM
>>> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>; Chun Chao <zerone4148 at gmail.com>; Jordan
>>> Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>>
>>> Yes, but that space is not cheap. San Diego is a very iN DEMAND tourist
>>> location around that time of year, so will be hard to get that space at a
>>> reasonable price.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind that the main reason we are in Florida for all this time is
>>> that we have a benefactor there who is willing to let us use his Hotel
>>> property at a very discounted rate.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Written While on the Move
>>>
>>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Lori Noyes via NFBC-Info
>>> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> San Diego also has lots of hotel and convention space!
>>>>
>>>> Lori
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:22 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info
>>> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> To keep the discussion juices flowing:
>>>>
>>>> 1. I believe next year is the last year of the contract.
>>>>
>>>> 2. he first is price. Getting a price of $83 per room for the
>>>> present convention hotel is tremendous and difficult to manage. The
>>>> whole idea is to make the hotel as affordable as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Also, we need a hotel as large as possible to accommodate not only
>>>> appropriate meeting space, but most of the guests. Most hotels can't
>>>> do this.
>>>>
>>>> Now, Los Vegas is a good possibility. Possibly Reno and Los Angeles
>>>> have hotels that would fit the size bill. San Francisco also would
>>>> have a couple of hotels that would work. I believe Phoenix may also have a
>>> hotel or two.
>>>> However, getting an affordable hotel makes the challenge greater.
>>>>
>>>> Having said all that it would be nice to have a hotel out here again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Hingson
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Jordan Mirander via NFBC-Info
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
>>>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
>>>> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an
>>>> item that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national
>>>> convention in Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year
>>>> of the national Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts.
>>>> This and very happy about, because I do not see any reason why the
>>>> West Coast cannot host a national convention. I mean after all we have
>>>> Los Angeles Sacramento San Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some
>>>> of the biggest cities in the nation. What do you guys think about
>>>> bringing 2018, and 2019 national Federation of the blind national
>>>> conventions to the West Coast? I mean come on guys I would love that if we
>>> could bring that together, and pull it off.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 19:53:13 +0000
> From: KEVIN VERDI <kvcrest at hotmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> Very good point Chuck
>
>
> ---
> Kevin Verd
>
>
> On Jun 14, 2017 at 12:47 PM, <Charles Krugman via NFBC-Info<mailto:nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>
>
> Actually conventions are scheduled a few years ahead of time due to the
>
> large number of attendees. While it would be nice to have a convention on
>
> the west coast hotel rates in the cities you mentioned are the highest
>
> during the summer months and this is a factor that is considered when
>
> negotiating the best rate or deal that the Federation can get in providing
>
> accommodations to such a large number of attendees. I'm sure that west coast
>
> cities are considered but summer is tourist season in the cities you
>
> mentioned with the highest room rates in season.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan
>
> Mirander via NFBC-Info
>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
>
> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
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> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
>
> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
>
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an item
>
> that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national convention in
>
> Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year of the national
>
> Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts. This and very happy
>
> about, because I do not see any reason why the West Coast cannot host a
>
> national convention. I mean after all we have Los Angeles Sacramento San
>
> Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some of the biggest cities in the
>
> nation. What do you guys think about bringing 2018, and 2019 national
>
> Federation of the blind national conventions to the West Coast? I mean come
>
> on guys I would love that if we could bring that together, and pull it off.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 13:34:11 -0700
> From: Lori N <emmetdog at gmail.com>
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> Point taken Chuck. Although I would think Las Vegas rooms are normally cheaper in the summer because it is well over 100? there? It's usually they're low price season like Palm Springs would be down here?
>
> Sent from my iPhone 7
>
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Charles Krugman via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Actually conventions are scheduled a few years ahead of time due to the
>> large number of attendees. While it would be nice to have a convention on
>> the west coast hotel rates in the cities you mentioned are the highest
>> during the summer months and this is a factor that is considered when
>> negotiating the best rate or deal that the Federation can get in providing
>> accommodations to such a large number of attendees. I'm sure that west coast
>> cities are considered but summer is tourist season in the cities you
>> mentioned with the highest room rates in season.
>> Chuck
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan
>> Mirander via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
>> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an item
>> that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national convention in
>> Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year of the national
>> Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts. This and very happy
>> about, because I do not see any reason why the West Coast cannot host a
>> national convention. I mean after all we have Los Angeles Sacramento San
>> Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some of the biggest cities in the
>> nation. What do you guys think about bringing 2018, and 2019 national
>> Federation of the blind national conventions to the West Coast? I mean come
>> on guys I would love that if we could bring that together, and pull it off.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:10:06 -0700
> From: Lyn Gwizdak <gwizdaklyn at gmail.com>
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> San Diego has room rates somewhere between $120-$200 per night.
>
> Lyn G.
>
> On Jun 14, 2017 11:12 AM, "Lori N via NFBC-Info" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> How many people usually attend?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info <
>> nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> It isn't just the space but how much space is in one location and how
>> much
>>> it would cost to move people from one place to another if one hotel is
>> not
>>> large enough.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Hingson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
>>> Barbour via NFBC-Info
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 8:52 AM
>>> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>; Chun Chao <zerone4148 at gmail.com>;
>> Jordan
>>> Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>>
>>> Yes, but that space is not cheap. San Diego is a very iN DEMAND tourist
>>> location around that time of year, so will be hard to get that space at a
>>> reasonable price.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind that the main reason we are in Florida for all this time is
>>> that we have a benefactor there who is willing to let us use his Hotel
>>> property at a very discounted rate.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Written While on the Move
>>>
>>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Lori Noyes via NFBC-Info
>>> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> San Diego also has lots of hotel and convention space!
>>>>
>>>> Lori
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:22 AM, Michael Hingson via NFBC-Info
>>> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> To keep the discussion juices flowing:
>>>>
>>>> 1. I believe next year is the last year of the contract.
>>>>
>>>> 2. he first is price. Getting a price of $83 per room for the
>>>> present convention hotel is tremendous and difficult to manage. The
>>>> whole idea is to make the hotel as affordable as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Also, we need a hotel as large as possible to accommodate not only
>>>> appropriate meeting space, but most of the guests. Most hotels can't
>>>> do this.
>>>>
>>>> Now, Los Vegas is a good possibility. Possibly Reno and Los Angeles
>>>> have hotels that would fit the size bill. San Francisco also would
>>>> have a couple of hotels that would work. I believe Phoenix may also
>> have a
>>> hotel or two.
>>>> However, getting an affordable hotel makes the challenge greater.
>>>>
>>>> Having said all that it would be nice to have a hotel out here again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Hingson
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Jordan Mirander via NFBC-Info
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
>>>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
>>>> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an
>>>> item that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national
>>>> convention in Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year
>>>> of the national Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts.
>>>> This and very happy about, because I do not see any reason why the
>>>> West Coast cannot host a national convention. I mean after all we have
>>>> Los Angeles Sacramento San Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some
>>>> of the biggest cities in the nation. What do you guys think about
>>>> bringing 2018, and 2019 national Federation of the blind national
>>>> conventions to the West Coast? I mean come on guys I would love that if
>> we
>>> could bring that together, and pull it off.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:26:18 -0700
> From: "Lisa Irving" <peacefulwoman89 at cox.net>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> Hi All:
>
>
> I had a hard time following the string of responses due to all of them, "greater, greater, greater" within every sentence.
>
> I think, Jim, you're looking for hotel and meeting space in San Diego for a future state convention?
>
> I'm sorry but I missed the anticipated number of attendees and the year. I have a friend who is a travel agent. If you'd like, I can ask him to do some hunting around for something affordable.
>
> With the exception of the Gaslamp Quarters Hilton in the heart of downtown, I'd say at this point to stay away from downtown. However, my friend may have better luck at getting group/conference rates.
>
> Feel free to call or email me with any specifics or message me on the list serve to let me know if you'd like my friend to do some looking around.
>
> Lisa Irving, Chapter President
> NFBC, San Diego Chapter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lori N via NFBC-Info
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 1:34 PM
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Lori N <emmetdog at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>
> Point taken Chuck. Although I would think Las Vegas rooms are normally cheaper in the summer because it is well over 100? there? It's usually they're low price season like Palm Springs would be down here?
>
> Sent from my iPhone 7
>
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Charles Krugman via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Actually conventions are scheduled a few years ahead of time due to
>> the large number of attendees. While it would be nice to have a
>> convention on the west coast hotel rates in the cities you mentioned
>> are the highest during the summer months and this is a factor that is
>> considered when negotiating the best rate or deal that the Federation
>> can get in providing accommodations to such a large number of
>> attendees. I'm sure that west coast cities are considered but summer
>> is tourist season in the cities you mentioned with the highest room rates in season.
>> Chuck
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Jordan Mirander via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
>> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an
>> item that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national
>> convention in Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year
>> of the national Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts.
>> This and very happy about, because I do not see any reason why the
>> West Coast cannot host a national convention. I mean after all we have
>> Los Angeles Sacramento San Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some
>> of the biggest cities in the nation. What do you guys think about
>> bringing 2018, and 2019 national Federation of the blind national
>> conventions to the West Coast? I mean come on guys I would love that if we could bring that together, and pull it off.
>>
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> From: "Michael Hingson" <mike at michaelhingson.com>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>, "'Lisa Irving'"
> <peacefulwoman89 at cox.net>
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> Actually the discussion was about where to hold future National conventions.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Irving via NFBC-Info
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 4:26 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> Hi All:
>
>
> I had a hard time following the string of responses due to all of them, "greater, greater, greater" within every sentence.
>
> I think, Jim, you're looking for hotel and meeting space in San Diego for a future state convention?
>
> I'm sorry but I missed the anticipated number of attendees and the year. I have a friend who is a travel agent. If you'd like, I can ask him to do some hunting around for something affordable.
>
> With the exception of the Gaslamp Quarters Hilton in the heart of downtown, I'd say at this point to stay away from downtown. However, my friend may have better luck at getting group/conference rates.
>
> Feel free to call or email me with any specifics or message me on the list serve to let me know if you'd like my friend to do some looking around.
>
> Lisa Irving, Chapter President
> NFBC, San Diego Chapter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lori N via NFBC-Info
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 1:34 PM
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Lori N <emmetdog at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>
> Point taken Chuck. Although I would think Las Vegas rooms are normally cheaper in the summer because it is well over 100? there? It's usually they're low price season like Palm Springs would be down here?
>
> Sent from my iPhone 7
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>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Charles Krugman via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Actually conventions are scheduled a few years ahead of time due to
>> the large number of attendees. While it would be nice to have a
>> convention on the west coast hotel rates in the cities you mentioned
>> are the highest during the summer months and this is a factor that is
>> considered when negotiating the best rate or deal that the Federation
>> can get in providing accommodations to such a large number of
>> attendees. I'm sure that west coast cities are considered but summer
>> is tourist season in the cities you mentioned with the highest room rates in season.
>> Chuck
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Jordan Mirander via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
>> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an
>> item that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national
>> convention in Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year
>> of the national Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts.
>> This and very happy about, because I do not see any reason why the
>> West Coast cannot host a national convention. I mean after all we have
>> Los Angeles Sacramento San Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some
>> of the biggest cities in the nation. What do you guys think about
>> bringing 2018, and 2019 national Federation of the blind national
>> conventions to the West Coast? I mean come on guys I would love that if we could bring that together, and pull it off.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 17:00:24 -0700
> From: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
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> This was just a discussion of the challenges in getting a convention to San Diego or the West Coast.
>
> No need for you to do anything Lisa, but thanks.
>
> Jim
>
> Written While on the Move
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>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Lisa Irving via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>>
>> I had a hard time following the string of responses due to all of them, "greater, greater, greater" within every sentence.
>>
>> I think, Jim, you're looking for hotel and meeting space in San Diego for a future state convention?
>>
>> I'm sorry but I missed the anticipated number of attendees and the year. I have a friend who is a travel agent. If you'd like, I can ask him to do some hunting around for something affordable.
>>
>> With the exception of the Gaslamp Quarters Hilton in the heart of downtown, I'd say at this point to stay away from downtown. However, my friend may have better luck at getting group/conference rates.
>>
>> Feel free to call or email me with any specifics or message me on the list serve to let me know if you'd like my friend to do some looking around.
>>
>> Lisa Irving, Chapter President
>> NFBC, San Diego Chapter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lori N via NFBC-Info
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 1:34 PM
>> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Lori N <emmetdog at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>
>> Point taken Chuck. Although I would think Las Vegas rooms are normally cheaper in the summer because it is well over 100? there? It's usually they're low price season like Palm Springs would be down here?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Charles Krugman via NFBC-Info <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually conventions are scheduled a few years ahead of time due to
>>> the large number of attendees. While it would be nice to have a
>>> convention on the west coast hotel rates in the cities you mentioned
>>> are the highest during the summer months and this is a factor that is
>>> considered when negotiating the best rate or deal that the Federation
>>> can get in providing accommodations to such a large number of
>>> attendees. I'm sure that west coast cities are considered but summer
>>> is tourist season in the cities you mentioned with the highest room rates in season.
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NFBC-Info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Jordan Mirander via NFBC-Info
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:03 AM
>>> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>; Chun Chao
>>> <zerone4148 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Discussion
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am writing to you all to get the discussion juices flowing about an
>>> item that will come up and be mentioned at our upcoming national
>>> convention in Orlando. I have been hearing that this is the last year
>>> of the national Federation of the blind's contract at Rosen resorts.
>>> This and very happy about, because I do not see any reason why the
>>> West Coast cannot host a national convention. I mean after all we have
>>> Los Angeles Sacramento San Francisco Oakland, Las Vegas, and Reno some
>>> of the biggest cities in the nation. What do you guys think about
>>> bringing 2018, and 2019 national Federation of the blind national
>>> conventions to the West Coast? I mean come on guys I would love that if we could bring that together, and pull it off.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 18:57:34 -0600
> From: Kyra Sweeney <kyra.sweeney94 at gmail.com>
> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Fwd: [Community-service] National Federation of
> the Blind Community Service Division 2017 Convention Service Project:
> Last chance to sign up.
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> This is going to be an exciting project, and I would encourage anyone going to national convention to sign up! Deadline is tomorrow.
>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: "Darian Smith, President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division via Community-Service" <community-service at nfbnet.org>
>>> Date: June 14, 2017 at 3:13:37 PM MDT
>>> To: Community Service Discussion List <community-service at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Darian Smith, President, National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division" <president at nfbcommunityservice.org>
>>> Subject: [Community-service] National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division 2017 Convention Service Project: Last chance to sign up.
>>> Reply-To: Community Service Discussion List <community-service at nfbnet.org>
>>>
>>> Reminder: deadline is June 15. Please pass the word to your chapters, student divisions and the like.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nfbcommunityservice.org/2017_convention_service_project
>>>>
>>>> 2017 Convention Service Project
>>>> The National Federation of the Blind Community Service Division is excited to tell you that we, along with Green Up Orlando, will be offering the opportunity to participate in a park beautification community service project. This service project will be a part of the various activities and events set to take place during the 77th convention of the National Federation of the Blind and will be unique in that we as blind people from across the nation will be taking an active role in beautifying a public space while demonstrating the teamwork, alternative techniques, and positive blindness philosophy that exemplify everything we are and do in the National Federation of the Blind.
>>>>
>>>> Date: July 10, 2017
>>>>
>>>> Location: Bill Frederick Park at Turkey Lake
>>>> 3401 S Hiawassee Road, Orlando, Florida 32835
>>>>
>>>> Time: 7:45 AM-1:30 PM (includes transportation to and from the hotel)
>>>>
>>>> We will be working in the Butterfly and Nature Connect Trail areas, and tasks will include:
>>>>
>>>> mulching
>>>> minor planting
>>>> fertilization
>>>> After the event, we may have some time to meet the Farm Animals. There are goats, horses, a donkey, guineas, chickens, bunnies, pigs, and more.
>>>>
>>>> Transportation will be provided by the Community Service Division. All materials, gloves, tools, plants, water, and snacks will be provided by Green Up Orlando. Please bring lunch and a reusable water bottle.
>>>>
>>>> Space is limited to 25 participants on a first come, first serve basis, so fill out the following form as soon as possible to guarantee your place. The deadline to sign up is June 15. If you have any questions about this project, please contact us.
>>>>
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