[nfbcs] PDF

Steve Jacobson steve.jacobson at visi.com
Mon Oct 5 17:22:52 UTC 2009


Tracy,

On the schedule, I definitely got tables.  Is there any chance that this is partly a JFW thing?  Does anyone know if JFW doesn't interpret tables when they are 
present when using Acrobat?  Of course, I know that tables are not always present or are not used correctly, so there are other cases that are just plain bad, but on 
the surface, this schedule appears to have tables with Acrobat Reader 9 and Window-Eyes 7.11.

On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:14:07 -0400 (EDT), Tracy Carcione wrote:

>> Did you set the reading order to "Infer Order from Document" or whatever
>> it is?

>I did, and the table still did not show up as any kind of comprehensible
>table.  I've never gotten tables in PDF docs to behave in any kind of
>sensible manner, from my paycheck to bus or program schedules.  If anyone
>knows how it's done, I'd be delighted to learn the trick.
>My problem is that the column headers don't appear to have any relation to
>the data, and/or that each element is on a separate line.
>Tracy


>> presented.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:58:17 -0500, Wunder, Gary wrote:
>>
>>>I opened the table and tried using table reading commands with no luck -
>>> was told I was not in a table. I could see what was being offered but
>>> could not associate
>> it with a day or time.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>>>Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:34 AM
>>>To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
>>>Subject: [nfbcs] PDF
>>
>>>My public radio station is chaning its schedule.  The new schedule is a
>>> PDF doc--a big hairy table.  I am having no luck figuring it out at all,
>>> and its symptomatic of
>> problems I'm having with PDF.
>>>Anyone who wants a look can see the pdf by going to wnyc.org, selecting
>>> schedule, then selecting Download New Schedule.
>>
>>>First, after I got the pdf dialog and hit Start, I got a blank page with
>>> a web address on top and 48.4% in the middle, but nothing else.  I saved
>>> that webpage as a pdf
>> file (I didn't have to change anything in the Save As box) and opened it
>> through Windows Explorer.  It opened it as a big table, but I couldn't
>> figure out which column
>> headers went with which columns.  I opened it with Kurzweil, and all the
>> text was garbage :::::::::::::.... etc.
>>
>>>I will try it again at work tomorrow, because for some reason PDF reads
>>> better there, even though I'm using the same version of Jaws, 7.0, and
>>> IE.
>>> Does anyone know why that might be so?
>>>Does anyone know how to figure out which header goes with which column in
>>> a PDF table?
>>>Thanks.
>>>Tracy
>>
>>
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