[nfbcs] Programming with a Braille display

[david hertweck]

I am a professional software engineer and I only use speech.  It works good
for me.  As an aside what screen reader are people using for linux.

Helpful setting for code
Symbols read all
In your editor have the editor use spaces rather than tabs
Use the move 1 word to the left and right a lot.


-----Original Message-----
From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:57 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Programming with a Braille display

hi,

i only had speech in the late 90s to 2001 with cobol, c++ and visual basic 
and it wasn't hard.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Programming with a Braille display


> Aaron,
>
> I've been dragging my feet getting back into programming because I haven't

> managed to get a braille display, and trying to get started again using 
> speech only makes me crazy. Also, Hearing code read to me sounds like 
> incomprehensible gibberish. I'm starting to just suck it up and set aside 
> time regularly to practice listening to code and path names for linux 
> config files or terminal commands, but... It's coming slowly for me.
>
> My own queries around and about indicate that most professional 
> programmers find the 80-cell display to be their best option. My former 
> employer was prepared to purchase one for me when I was losing the ability

> to read print, only we needed the VR agency to get someone out for an 
> onsite evaluation and more information about the technical details, so... 
> I hope they found someone good to do that job when I had to give it up 
> because I couldn't read and the agency still couldn't get anyone out 
> there. Sigh. The price of an 80-cell then, as now, is around $10k.
>
> A 40-cell is around $5k, although I guess the Focus is only $4k these 
> days... There are rumors that prices will start to come down soon, so I'm 
> waiting for that with bated breath.
>
> You're the third person I've ever heard of who does programming with 
> speech only. /smile/ So I'm sure there must be others. You've bummed me 
> out because if other people can program with speech only, then I don't 
> have any excuse to put off learning to do that myself, do i? /grin/
>
> I would say you're dead on about efficiency. I can only guess for myself, 
> but there do seem to be a lot of little tasks or bits of tasks that 
> involve squirrelling around with the screen reader that people who use 
> braille just read with their fingers... My assumptions on my expectations 
> for improved efficiency are also based on the simple fact that even as a 
> pretty new braille reader, I recall waht I read through my fingers much 
> more accurately and clearly than I do what I hear read to me... I'm 
> getting better due to experience but ... That's not saying much. /smile/ 
> Proofing is also more time consuming and also fatiguing for me. That could

> be mostly just me and how I respond conceptually to the spoken word as 
> opposed to the read word... My fingers do a much better job for me at 
> replacing my eyeballs than do my ears.
>
> I don't know if that is helpful, but I thought I would throw it out since 
> I'm in a similar place.
>
> I'm looking forward to hearing what everyone else has to say. /smile/
>
> Tami
>
> On 11/08/2011 06:46 AM, Aaron Cannon wrote:
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I'm wondering how many programmers use a braille display?  I have been
>> programming for the past several years, but I've never tried to use a
>> braille display.  Do you feel that it makes you more efficient?  If
>> so, how exactly?
>>
>> I assume the larger the display, the better?
>>
>> Any advice would be appreciated.  Anything I can do to make myself
>> more efficient is great.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
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