[nfbcs] Programming with a Braille display

[Tami Kinney]

Cool!

Now that I can't pretend my attitude is anything but that, I should make 
much better progress in my efforts to keep at the frustrating phase of 
making the mental transition and get on with programming with the tools 
I have until I can add the tools I want. /smile/

Thanks!

Tami

On 11/08/2011 03:57 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
> hi,
>
> i only had speech in the late 90s to 2001 with cobol, c++ and visual
> basic and it wasn't hard.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
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>> Aaron,
>>
>> I've been dragging my feet getting back into programming because I
>> haven't managed to get a braille display, and trying to get started
>> again using speech only makes me crazy. Also, Hearing code read to me
>> sounds like incomprehensible gibberish. I'm starting to just suck it
>> up and set aside time regularly to practice listening to code and path
>> names for linux config files or terminal commands, but... It's coming
>> slowly for me.
>>
>> My own queries around and about indicate that most professional
>> programmers find the 80-cell display to be their best option. My
>> former employer was prepared to purchase one for me when I was losing
>> the ability to read print, only we needed the VR agency to get someone
>> out for an onsite evaluation and more information about the technical
>> details, so... I hope they found someone good to do that job when I
>> had to give it up because I couldn't read and the agency still
>> couldn't get anyone out there. Sigh. The price of an 80-cell then, as
>> now, is around $10k.
>>
>> A 40-cell is around $5k, although I guess the Focus is only $4k these
>> days... There are rumors that prices will start to come down soon, so
>> I'm waiting for that with bated breath.
>>
>> You're the third person I've ever heard of who does programming with
>> speech only. /smile/ So I'm sure there must be others. You've bummed
>> me out because if other people can program with speech only, then I
>> don't have any excuse to put off learning to do that myself, do i? /grin/
>>
>> I would say you're dead on about efficiency. I can only guess for
>> myself, but there do seem to be a lot of little tasks or bits of tasks
>> that involve squirrelling around with the screen reader that people
>> who use braille just read with their fingers... My assumptions on my
>> expectations for improved efficiency are also based on the simple fact
>> that even as a pretty new braille reader, I recall waht I read through
>> my fingers much more accurately and clearly than I do what I hear read
>> to me... I'm getting better due to experience but ... That's not
>> saying much. /smile/ Proofing is also more time consuming and also
>> fatiguing for me. That could be mostly just me and how I respond
>> conceptually to the spoken word as opposed to the read word... My
>> fingers do a much better job for me at replacing my eyeballs than do
>> my ears.
>>
>> I don't know if that is helpful, but I thought I would throw it out
>> since I'm in a similar place.
>>
>> I'm looking forward to hearing what everyone else has to say. /smile/
>>
>> Tami
>>
>> On 11/08/2011 06:46 AM, Aaron Cannon wrote:
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering how many programmers use a braille display? I have been
>>> programming for the past several years, but I've never tried to use a
>>> braille display. Do you feel that it makes you more efficient? If
>>> so, how exactly?
>>>
>>> I assume the larger the display, the better?
>>>
>>> Any advice would be appreciated. Anything I can do to make myself
>>> more efficient is great.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
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