[nfbcs] Computer Purchesses and Family Members

Mary Donahue braille at satx.rr.com
Sun Sep 11 18:09:43 UTC 2011 

Hello Gabe and everyone,

    What Pete said is correct so far, but let me add my specifics. Since my 
father died in December, 2009, my brother has been my mother's money 
adviser. I had called them about another personal matter on Wednesday and 
mentioned my computer going down in a prior email. They were going to talk 
about the computer situation and the other matter in the next day.

    We move forward to Thursday afternoon. Pete had been on the phone with a 
Dell representative, and they thought we had gotten a computer package that 
would work. I sent the email to my sister-in-law's email address because my 
brother was still home recovering from surgery, and probably will be for a 
couple of more weeks.

    On Friday, my brother wrote me back from his office email address saying 
that, first, my mother was "a little upset" because it sounded that Pete had 
written the email from the day before, and not me. This wasn't true because 
I had written something at the end of the message.  He had talked to his IT 
manager at work, and the IT manager was quoted as saying "She could launch a 
space shuttle with that computer." I sent my brother three emails Friday 
night, one of them with information from Education Service Center, Region 
20's Web site about the Dell student/personal use discount that the service 
center has. My brother wrote back yesterday and said to send the quotes to 
someone in IT at work, which I did last night--both the quote from Thursday 
and the one I got from Dell last night. This particular technician from work 
was the same one who discovered PC Performance on my other computer, so if 
he should send me an email back, I will forward it to my brother as fast as 
I can. The rep from Dell is supposed to call me back tomorrow to see what we 
want to do.

    In any case, I appreciate where my mother is coming from as far as her 
income goes, but everything is very tense around here now between her and 
me. I'm afraid if I talk to her now, I may say some things I'll regret later 
and send her blood pressure up sky-high. I know they want to help because we 
don't have the money to pay for a computer system in one lump sum, but I'm 
not sure what to do. Any feedback you may have would be very much 
appreciated.

    Thank you in advance.

Mary Donahue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 12:13 PM
Subject: [nfbcs] Computer Purchesses and Family Members


> Hello Gabe and everyone,
>
>    Switching would be the least of our considerations right now. We
> appreciate the in-laws willingness to assist us with the computer purchess
> but could do without the horsepuckey that's going along with it. We're
> adults, We know our particular computer needs, and understand what it 
> needed
> for access technology to work correctly.
>
>    We sent them a quote but they said it was too high. No problem. We
> offered to go halves on it so as not to put them out too much. They've
> turned this deal in to a his needs verses her needs circus, and wanted to
> obtain quotes from individuals who know absolutely nothing about access
> technology and what's required for it to run correctly.
>
>    Again we appreciate their willingness to help Mary replace her computer
> but could do without all of the stress, tension, and just plain being
> treated like children; treatment we've also received from VR agencies when
> it comes to purchasing such technology. This is exactly why we prefer to
> purchass  such equipment our selves and why we urge others to do so. Had 
> her
> computer been hit by this virus in March of 2012, around the time we 
> receive
> our tax refund this would have been a done deal by now. It would have 
> taken
> the entire refund to replace Mary's computer but we could have done it 
> with
> pride, dignity, all of the hassles, delaying tactics, and other nonsense
> from VR agencies and well-meaning family members. If push comes to shove 
> we
> might very well end up telling them "Thanks but no thanks." It will mean
> digging in and raising the needed funds ourselves but this is preferable 
> to
> the alternative. I'll let Mary say more if she chooses to do so.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gabe Vega" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>
>
> no one asked you to switch. I was just making the point that its pretty 
> sad
> having to sacrifice and make so many computer design compromises based on
> what your assistive technology will or will not do.
> Gabe Vega - Sent from my Apple Mac Mini
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> On Sep 11, 2011, at 5:28 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>    If you're used to working in Windows you're going to stay with that
>> platform.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gabe Vega" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>
>>
>> I think the whole conversation is sad because why would it matter if its
>> all
>> in one or not? I've been using an all in one in one fashion or another
>> with
>> voice over since 2005 and using touch based technology again with
>> voiceover
>> on the mac since 2010. been also using a touch based phone with voice 
>> over
>> since 2009. sad people got to make so many sacrifices when using windows.
>> Gabe Vega - Sent from my Apple Mac Mini
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>> On Sep 11, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>
>>> yes it is but i'm not the one that wants to pay hundreds  extra to make
>>> sure it's a factory dell.
>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home"
>>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 6:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>
>>>
>>>> No, I am not the moderator, but isn't the price of cabs getting a 
>>>> little
>>>> off topic for a Computer Science list?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz"
>>>> <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:23 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> how much are cab prices there?
>>>>> it's about $14 for 5 miles here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Donahue" 
>>>>> <braille at satx.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 4:52 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Brian and everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lots. The closest Best-Buy Stores are located about five miles away
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the cab fare is quite hefty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mary Donahue
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz"
>>>>>> <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 4:41 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> don't know your price range or desired features but ups delivered hp
>>>>>>> to my door.
>>>>>>> the brand doesn't matter as long as you have the same versions and
>>>>>>> apps as your work location.
>>>>>>> how much could a cab cost compared to saving several hundred 
>>>>>>> dollars?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Donahue"
>>>>>>> <braille at satx.rr.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 4:05 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Brian and everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I appreciate your opinion, but I want the best for my needs 
>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>> having to spend on transportation to go to some place like Best 
>>>>>>>> Buy.
>>>>>>>> I chose Dell because that's what my other computer was, and that's
>>>>>>>> what I'm using at work. Remember, my mother and brother are helping
>>>>>>>> me get this system as an early birthday/Christmas gift. I have to
>>>>>>>> think about them, especially my mother, since she'll be paying.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mary Donahue
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz"
>>>>>>>> <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:37 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> imo i would stay away from the all in one.
>>>>>>>>> you can get a really good tower, monitor, printer deal for $550 or
>>>>>>>>> less at a place like best buy and have choices other than dell.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Donahue"
>>>>>>>>> <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:09 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello again everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  The search for a new computer for Mary goes on. We came across
>>>>>>>>>> what are
>>>>>>>>>> referred to as all-in-one computers. Rather than their being a
>>>>>>>>>> tower for the
>>>>>>>>>> brains of the operation and, a separate monitor and speakers 
>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>> components are housed in a single box hence the term all-in-one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Several of the units also come with touch-screen monitors. These
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> Windows machines and from what I can tell should handle access
>>>>>>>>>> technology
>>>>>>>>>> just fine. None the less before the in-laws put down the bucks 
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> Mary's
>>>>>>>>>> new machine we decided to check to see if anyone on these lists
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> all-in-one PC, if anyone has a touch-screen monitor on their PC
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> course how well screen access technology plays on these systems
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>> presence of a touch-screen monitor. Once again your feedback will
>>>>>>>>>> be very
>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Will you come and awake our lost land from its slumber
>>>>>>>>>>    And her fetters we'll break, links that long are encumbered.
>>>>>>>>>>    And the air will resound with hosannas to greet you
>>>>>>>>>>    On the shore will be found gallant Irishmen to greet you."
>>>>>>>>>> Will You Come to the Bower
>>>>>>>>>> Traditional Irish Folk Song
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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