[nfbcs] Captcha

Wed Feb 29 03:14:51 UTC 2012

Peter,

I would really like to see this approach work in general and would not mind a bit to be wrong.  What sort of web site has it been employed upon that you 
mentioned is "full-blown?  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:59:34 -0600, Peter Donahue wrote:

>Hello Steve and everyone,

>    It's working well on a full-blown Web site and is about to be deployed 
>on another one by April 1. Other CF folks I know said that when they 
>installed CFFormProtect on their high-traffic sites they achieved a 100% 
>blockage of spam bots without causing accessibility issues for disabled 
>visitors.

>Peter Donahue

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
>To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:48 PM
>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Captcha

>Peter,

>From what I saw, the CFFormsProtect solution was best suited to BLOGS and 
>spam blocking and seemed less effective to me as a general solution.  Both 
>they and you have used the phrase "spam killer" and
>SPAM is somewhat of a different problem than automated attempts to log into 
>a site.  I think that taking an approach that gets the user out of the
>loop has possibilities and they present a good example of doing that for 
>particular kinds of access, but I don't think the Cold Fusion community has 
>found a general magic answer.  Having said that, part of the
>problem is that web site developers want a simple solution that does not 
>involve any monitoring or interaction on their part, and I don't know if 
>that is realistic.

>Best regards,

>Steve Jacobson

>On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:44:32 -0600, Peter Donahue wrote:

>>Hello Mike and everyone,

>>    The best solution is to get the visitor completely out of the loop. If
>>the ColdFusion community can do it why can't the rest of the Web 
>>Development
>>community come up with similar solutions?

>>Peter Donahue

>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:22 AM
>>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Captcha

>>Delta Air's GogoInFlight wifi has you solve a simple math problem. This
>>would work for the deaf-blind though not for the cognitively-impaired. 
>>Can't
>>win 'em all!

>>Mike Freeman
>>sent via iPhone

>>On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:03, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:

>>> In this case, "they" is Microsoft.  They are willing to listen to
>>> suggestions, but no one knows how much work they're actually willing to
>>> do. On the other hand, if they do listen, it could be great for many more
>>> people than just my hospital.
>>>
>>> The only solution I've heard about that would work for deaf-blind people
>>> is some kind of story problem.  I remember someone discussing that
>>> here...John?
>>>
>>> Nancy,
>>> You mean they show a picture of a bird, and play a bird sound?  If you
>>> said cardinal instead of bird, would it still work? Interesting.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>> Hello Tracy and everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Yup. God help any deaf-blind person who wants to access their medical
>>>> records as they'll be locked out. They need to roll up their sleeves and
>>>> find a non-captcha solution so all patients can have access to this part
>>>> of
>>>> their Web site. There are captcha alternatives out there. They need to
>>>> find
>>>> the one that will work best with their Web site framework and 
>>>> development
>>>> language. If the site is using ColdFusion they should check out
>>>> CFFormProtect. This spam bot blocker takes the end user entirely out of
>>>> the
>>>> checking process. It does all of its work in the background and will
>>>> resolve
>>>> any accessibility issues disabled visitors may face when using this Web
>>>> site. I'm using it on several of my Web sites and thus far have not had
>>>> complaints about sites being spammed or individuals with particular
>>>> disabilities such as hearing impairments being shut out.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>> To: <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:38 AM
>>>> Subject: [nfbcs] Captcha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The hospital I work for is creating a system where patients can see 
>>>> their
>>>> medical records online, and I volunteered to advise them on
>>>> accessibility,
>>>> so far as I can.  The system is using a captcha during registration.  It
>>>> has an audio version, but it's very hard to understand.  It took me 4
>>>> tries to solve it, although it might have been easier if I'd had
>>>> headphones on.
>>>> Is that usual for audio captchas?  Can anyone give a site where captchas
>>>> are particularly well-handled?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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