[nfbcs] table reading

Tue Jul 31 14:51:32 UTC 2012

You might try captioning the tables:
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_caption.asp and
http://www.w3schools.com/html/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml_tables2 I am
not sure how this changes the visual presentation, but when I hit the
table with the screen reader it reads the caption first then the
number of rows and columns.  You can use styling to change the
appearance and probably can set the visibility or other attribute to
hide the text.
Bill

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO
<susan.stanzel at kcc.usda.gov> wrote:
> They have more than one table on each page. Is there a way of differentiating each table? I was hoping there was a way of looking for the table by name with jaws by doing a list of tables on the page? I don't know If I am making any sense at all. The page is very confusing and I can't send it out. I was thinking there should be something like a title for each table.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Susie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jaquiss, Robert
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:30 AM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] table reading
>
> Hello:
>
>      The code to mark a table cell as a header is th.
> For example, if a table had a price column, the code for the heading would be <th>price</th>.
> The th elements are nested inside of tr row elements in the same way as td elements are nested.
>
> Note that JAWS has a new way to read tables. Press JAWS-key and space. Then press t. The arrow keys will navigat the table. Press the PC cursor key to exit this mode.
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
>
>
> Robert Jaquiss
> Access Technology Specialist
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:20 AM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] table reading
>
> Yes, I am looking for the proper code. I am working on Section 508 accessibility for U.S.D.A. and need to do more than just find problems. They are looking to me for solutions.
>
> Susie Stanzel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bill
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:15 AM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] table reading
>
> I think she is looking for the HTML markup to title tables.
> Bill
>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Anonymous <blindhelpfultech at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tables are T, but I hate tables just use arrow keys.
>>
>> On 7/30/12, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>>> Why worry about it? Just arrow around.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO
>>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:38 AM
>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] table reading
>>>
>>> What is the coding to make the site say the desired title when I hit
>>> "t" to find the tables?
>>>
>>> Susie Stanzel
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Curtis Chong
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:35 AM
>>> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] table reading
>>>
>>> Susie:
>>>
>>> Tabbing is the very worst way to explore a new Website.  I usually
>>> use the arrow keys and explore the page in greater detail.
>>> Sometimes, I search for headings, tables, and so on.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>>
>>> Curtis Chong
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO
>>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 12:18 PM
>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] table reading
>>>
>>> Yes, I can do it if I use the table navigation commands. If you don't
>>> use the links list to navigate a new web site, do you just start tabbing?
>>>
>>> Susie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Curtis Chong
>>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 10:58 AM
>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] table reading
>>>
>>> Greetings:
>>>
>>> Are you trying to navigate within the table using the time-approved
>>> table navigation commands, and in so doing, are you then getting
>>> better information.  It is a rare occasion indeed for me ever to use
>>> the link list<grin>.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>>
>>> Curtis Chong
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: "Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO"
>>>><susan.stanzel at kcc.usda.gov>
>>>>Sent: Jul 27, 2012 9:55 AM
>>>>To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] table reading
>>>>
>>>>I don't know if I should since it is a federal site.
>>>>
>>>>Susie Stanzel
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>Behalf
>>> Of Denise Robinson
>>>>Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 9:49 AM
>>>>To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>>>>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] table reading
>>>>
>>>>Send the site link so we all can take a look at it
>>>>
>>>>Denise M Robinson
>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:00 AM, "Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO"
>>> <susan.stanzel at kcc.usda.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am evaluating a web site. There is a table of names. Each name
>>>>> could be
>>> deleted or modified. When I did a list of links on the page I get "delete"
>>> and "modify" over and over for each line. Consequently, if I wanted
>>> to look at it with a list of links I would not know which line it was referring to.
>>> Do any of you know how this should be coded? Is it correct this way?
>>>>>
>>>>> Susit Stanzel
>>>>>
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