[nfbcs] java again

Anonymous blindhelpfultech at gmail.com
Fri Oct 19 22:00:04 UTC 2012


agree with your thinking, I know the only reason I have not gone with
apple is the cost and the lack of options, give me that and I would
jump ship
Nadia

On 10/19/12, majolls at cox.net <majolls at cox.net> wrote:
> I think Apple could be challenged in a couple of ways.
> 1. If the apps are so good, word will get around and people will want to go
> with Android.
> 2. If the accessibility is so good, Andriod will compete against Apple in
> the disabilities area.
> 3. If the cost of ownership is relatively low and the software available so
> good, it would be hard to justify buying a more expensive product.
>
> I think I've seen in the past 35 years that when prices and features are
> expensive and not mature, people tend to wait to go with a technology.  When
> they get cheap and there's really a big bang for the buck, and the software
> is really good, you see people rushing out to get on the bandwagon to
> purchase.  I saw it with CB's, VCR's, and other things.  Think about the VCR
> when it first came out and how it proliferated as it got cheapter and the
> software on the devices got better.
>
> This would hold true for blind people as well.  I know a few in my area and
> they all tout the iPhone ... primarily because the accessibility is pretty
> good.  But if Android built in really good accessibility like Apple did, and
> the phone was say ... 35% or 40% cheaper than an Apple, and there were
> really good apps that took advantage of the built-in accessibility, I think
> the folks I know would at least take a serious look if not jump ship and
> make the move to Android.   It might take come convincing and demonstration
> of the equipment and software, but why would they want to pay more when
> unnecessary?
>
> And, regarding phone and accessibility ... Apple is an entity to itself, and
> they decided to build in the accessibility into their O/S.  Thus, all
> software has to play by their rules.  That's one reason why Apple seems (as
> I see it in my friends) to be the phone / tablet / etc... of choice.   If
> the Android players would all get together, agree on how apps should be
> written, such that every app was accessible, I think Andriod would put a
> severe cramp in Apple's style.
>
> Comments?
>
>
>
> ---- "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu> wrote:
>> WRT our discussion of java last week, I had said on this list that
>> somebody
>> told me that a lot of mobile apps were written in java. I had no real
>> reason
>> to credit that but last night, I was talking to my wife about Google's
>> crummy earnings and I happened to mention the android operating system,
>> which, btw, is an open-source  linux fork. Anyway, I wikipediaed  android
>> and found  this interesting note:
>>
>> Additionally, Android has a large community of developers writing
>> applications ("apps") that extend the functionality of devices, written
>> primarily in a customized version of Java.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
>>
>> So learning java might not be such a bad career move after all. Hard to
>> say.
>> Apple is so dominant in the mobile platform arena its hard to say which,
>> if
>> any, of its competitors will be able to challenge it down the road.
>> Google?
>> Microsoft?RIM? If I absolutely had to bet, I guess I'd bet on Google.
>>
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