[nfbcs] accessibility (was: project tracking software)

Wed May 15 14:21:10 UTC 2013

I think you are both right because this is a conflict between what 
should be and what is.  To keep your job, you do have to make it worth 
it to the company. And that can be very, very difficult. If their 
software is inaccessible, there really isn't much you can do about that. 
So we need to keep  working on using the 508 regulations to force 
companies to make their produts accessible. That is our only weapon, as 
weak as it is.

We're like a 2nd level halfling rogue  with a plus 1 short sord going 
against a dozen 10th level half-orc fighter with a +3 fire brand. We're 
going to have to roll a lot of twenties to win. Well, the good news is 
that we have like an infinate number of hit points.

On 05/14/13 21:20, Larry Wayland wrote:
> Man, Mr. Black you sure believe a long way. I disagree with you on a couple
> of points.  Number one, no matter how valuable a employee is a company is
> not and will not invest a lot of time or money trying to find a alternative
> solution to an 	access ability problem.  Ok, ok, there is always exception
> to the rules, but it doesn't happen nearly often enough. Also, what is wrong
> with asking a company to look for accessible software.  If they find one It
> more than likely will be a better solution for everyone in the company.
> If large companies and government agencies would start insisting on
> accessible software then the developers might see the necessity, or maybe I
> should say the value in developing  accessible software.
> I agree with you on working hard to be a valuable employee but sometimes
> people are put into situations where they can only do so much and finding
> that nitch is difficult if not impossible, especially if the tools they are
> ask to use to not work for them.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Charles E. Black
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:02 PM
> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] project tracking software
>
> Nancy and Susan:
>
> While I think things should be accessible. It isn't always practical. Let's
> look at it, who can tell a privately owned company they can and must buy a
> certain software just because a couple of people cannot use it. This is
> impractical. What a company will do is find an accessible alternative if the
> person(s) puts out work that the company sees a profit in. What it all boils
> down to is, if a company sees that it will have an advantage by keeping
> someone around, they will find a way to make whatever adjustments necessary.
> So, the question is, are you a profitable venture for whatever company you
> work for? It may not be easy to keep up with the sighted world. However, we
> as blind people must go that extra mile just to stay ahead of others. The
> only way we will be equal is for us to be better and have value.
>
>   Charles E. Black
> 19 Coach Hill Rd.
> Columbia, SC  29020
> (803) 463-0040
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nancy Coffman
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 1:58 PM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] project tracking software
>
> Hi Susie
>
> Maybe checking with the screen reader companies about what project
> management software they use would give you an idea of what is accessible.
> Maybe if we help these agencies to find accessible software, they will be
> more likely to use it. I think research takes more effort than a lot of
> people are willing to put out.
>
> Nancy Coffman
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 12, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com> wrote:
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