[nfbcs] Ethics of screen reader friendly development

[Mike Freeman]

If I really *had* been a telepath, I'd have worn out any number of readers
in college; they'd all have gone blind from my excessive use of their eyes
for reading!

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:08 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Ethics of screen reader friendly development

To date, much work remains to be done in areas of researching and 
prototyping the telepathy interface.

On Tue, 21 May 2013, Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S wrote:

> Does it make yourselves feel good to say this kind of crazy stuff? If it
was so great to have accessible software, that wouldn't be in excess but
software is such a fight to make software accessible to begin with. Come on
let's get real. Not everybody wants talking list talking that whatever. It's
not cool, it's not better. It's just different
> 
> Gabe Vega 
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> On May 21, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Nancy Coffman <nancylc at sprynet.com> wrote:
> 
> > We also should remember that accessibility features make for better
usability. Many people who are not blind or do not have other disabilities
also benefit from the accessibility features we need. Software that works
well benefits everybody.
> > 
> > Nancy Coffman
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > On May 20, 2013, at 8:36 PM, "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net>
wrote:
> > 
> >> Wow, what a thought-provoking post. 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude
DaShiell
> >> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 6:14 PM
> >> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Ethics of screen reader friendly development
> >> 
> >> Everyone needs to remember accessibility has always had two get out of
jail
> >> free cards available to those targeted for compliance.  First card is
> >> unreasonable burden which must be and has been proved in the past.  
> >> The second get out of jail free card is for a compliance target to be
able
> >> to exceed the accessibility standards in question because they have a
better
> >> way of providing accessibility than has been done so far available.
That
> >> takes care of both ends of that bell curve, and what's left over to
argue
> >> about is the stuff in the middle.  The argument I hear advanced in here
> >> against accessibility could equally be used against security since
> >> substantial amounts of time effort and money have to be spent for that
and
> >> prevent work on the next killer features.  The problem at least for the
> >> screen reader community is even if every baby who would be born blind
or
> >> become blind at some time in their lives could be detected and aborted
in
> >> time the blind population would still not diminish.  Countries will do
war
> >> regularly and one of the by-products are blinded veterans who need jobs
when
> >> returning home.  
> >> Aside from wars, industrial accidents will happen and people have
accidents
> >> with shotguns on turkey hunts.  Young kids will take the powder out of
caps
> >> with a needle and let it fall into a jar on a table outside until the
sun
> >> throws a spark into the jar igniting the powder and causing loss of
> >> eyesight.  All of them are going to need jobs.  Now, it will be
possible if
> >> accessible development gets shut off to steer blind people completely
away
> >> from the computer field along with all other disabled people requiring
> >> accessibility in order to save the money that would be spent on
> >> accessibility for killer features.  Aside from the problem what kind of
jobs
> >> will this class of people have, there is no guarrantee that
corporations
> >> will even consider developing those killer features and more likely
plough
> >> that money back into higher stock dividends for their investors.  With
the
> >> mergers and acquisitions climate as it is now, the big fish eat well
and the
> >> people lower down on the pay scales have their jobs at the most
jeopardy
> >> when m&a activity happens.  Everything here is connected and moving one
> >> piece sets off chain reactions that spread decisions taken throughout
the
> > 
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