[nfbcs] Trouble with IE8

Thu Sep 5 17:46:48 UTC 2013

Uhmm Gotta think 'bout that one...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Trouble with IE8

: I'm using windows 7 but Steve's "fix" helped quite a bit -- and I'm using
: JAWS 14.
:
: Mike
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of I. C. Bray
: Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 10:32 AM
: To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
: Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Trouble with IE8
:
: Steve, TROO THAT! !
:
: Tracy,  if what Steve suggests works, then my suggestions for internet
: options won't.
: That being said, if his suggestions DON'T  work, consider contacting me
: offline and I can call you or you me etc.  I still use XP.  I have few
: problems with XP + IE8 + JAWS 13.
:
: Ian.
:
:
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
: To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
: Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:39 AM
: Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Trouble with IE8
:
:
:: Tracy,
::
:: I have seen this problem with IE 8 sometimes, and it was also an issue
: with Window-Eyes although Window-Eyes seems to have
:: lessened this.  My experience has been that the problem happens less with
: IE 8 under Windows 7, but that doesn't make it go away
:: completely.  The problem you will run into is that you are likely in a
: small group of users still on IE 8 and XP, so these
:: problems may not be surfacint readily in their testing.  You should make
: the contact anyway, though.
::
:: I don't remember the entire sequence of events, but have you tried 
running
:
: IE 8 with no add-ins to see if it is more stable?  The
:: pattern I have noticed with Window-Eyes, XP and IE 8 is that if I run it
: once just after booting up that it often doesn't respond.
:: If I wait and close IE 8, it runs after that much better.  You might try
: closing JFW, running and closing IE 8 with NVDA, and then
:: restarting JFW to see if that results in more stable operation.  I'm not
: saying that you should have to do this, but I've long
:: since given up on thinking that I should have a right to expect that
: software not be released without bugs.  <smile>
::
:: Best regards,
::
:: Steve Jacobson
::
:: On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 10:53:35 -0400, Tracy Carcione wrote:
::
:: >Thanks to all for the advice.
:: >I have:  done system maintenance, including disk cleanup and defrag, and
:: >deleting temp files of all sorts.
:: >Reinstalled IE8.
:: >Put in the latest Jaws update--actually, IE started hanging up when I
: tried
:: >to install the latest update last week and it failed, but this time it
: went
:: >in OK.
:: >None of these things has fixed my problem.  A site will hang one time,
: and
:: >be fine a minute later, after I've gone to another window, or closed the
:: >hanging site.  Narrator is becoming my close friend, since Jaws hangs
: when
:: >IE hangs, and I begin to wonder if that is significant.  Maybe Ian is
: right,
:: >and Jaws 14, or the latest version thereof, doesn't play well with XP
: Pro.
:: >I'll have to call FS, who will probably tell me that no one else is
: having
:: >this problem.
:: >Is there a system attention key for the PC, like there is for the
: mainframe?
:: >Something that says knock off everything you're doing, right now? 
Escape
:: >and alt-F4 only work eventually, when they get around to it. Or is it
: called
:: >the power button on the PC? <grin>
:: >What is a cable terminator, which Jude mentioned?
:: >I don't think the problem is with my internet provider--at least, I'm 
not
:: >having the problem with my netbook, which runs NVDA.
:: >Tracy
::
:: >----- Original Message ----- 
:: >From: "I. C. Bray" <i.c.bray at win.net>
:: >To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
:: >Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 6:20 PM
:: >Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Trouble with IE8
::
::
:: >> OK,
:: >> First off, XP PRO is a good OS, but it still has it's problems.
:: >> Most of the time it is an IE issue; IE likes to have it's HTML a
: certain
:: >> way.
:: >> Since there are only normalizations, and not distinct standards with
: HTML
:: >> Authoring, you are likely to continue to have problems.
:: >> I have JAWS 13 on XP  HOME on my LT, and use XP PRO on all of my other
:: >> machines with NVDA. (Yes, I hate nvda, but it's free!)
:: >> Assside from that, if your fan is accelerating, it is a temperature /
:: >> processor issue.
:: >> JAWS 14 may not be the *best* for XP PRO.  I cannot speak t this
:: >> directly... Perhaps someone from FS can comment?
:: >>
:: >> Sometimes your DNS records can get cross-linked, or your temporary
:: >> internet files can kludge-up access times.
:: >>
:: >> Best practices:
:: >> Clean-up your cache, temporary files, and make sure your DNS servers
: are
:: >> correct with your ISP.
:: >> Example, with the conversion of INSIGHT to TIME-WARNER in my area,
: there
:: >> are many reasons why this simillar behavior can occur.  DNS Records
: update
:: >> pretty frequently, but sometimes things don't get cleared out on your
:: >> machine.
:: >>
:: >> You should leave your History in tact, but consider clearing out Cache
: and
:: >> Temp Files.
:: >> Reboot.
:: >> Try the problematic sites again and see what happens.
:: >>
:: >> Also, with HEAT of Summer upon us, it is often also that broad-band
:: >> (cable) head-ends and lines get over-heated.  This causes lower 
quality
:: >> signals accross the transmission lines.
:: >>
:: >> You could be suffering from marginal or borderline signal issues.
: Calling
:: >> your customer service to report intermittant signals is a good idea
: too.
:: >>
:: >> Ian  C. Bray.
:: >>
:: >>
:: >>
:: >> ----- Original Message ----- 
:: >> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
:: >> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
:: >> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 9:15 AM
:: >> Subject: [nfbcs] Trouble with IE8
:: >>
:: >>
:: >>> For the last 2 days, I've been having problems with IE.  It happens
: with
:: >>> any site; one time it hangs, and the next time it's fine, probably. 
It
:: >>> seems random, but it's happened several times.
:: >>> I get the "program not responding, end now?" message, followed by the
: IE
:: >>> error report screen.  Before it abends, it hangs up for a while, and 
I
:: >>> hear the computer fan running like mad, but Jaws won't say anything.
:: >>> I've run a virus scan with MS Security Essentials, and it didn't find
:: >>> anything.
:: >>> I'm running Jaws 14 and IE8 on Windows XP Pro.
:: >>> Is there any way to find out what's happening when IE hangs?
:: >>> If I reinstall IE8, will it cause a disaster?
:: >>> Does IE9 work?  I remember hearing there were problems with it.
:: >>> TIA.
:: >>> Tracy
:: >>>
:: >>>
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