[nfbcs] Multi-Post: Braille Displays and feedback.

Mon Sep 9 18:29:29 UTC 2013

Despite all the hype, I suspect that developing alternative Braille displays
such as are described for the tablet below is at least a decade away. I hope
I'm wrong.

Mike Freeman

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jolls
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 7:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Multi-Post: Braille Displays and feedback.

Your comment about an 80 cell display being able to handle two monitors is a
very compelling reason to buy an 80 cell display ... providing of course the
screen reading software is developed such that that capability is built in
to it.  I can't imagine why the functionality couldn't be there.  It would
be a matter of enough people requesting the change to the screen reader
vendor .. which means enough people would be able to afford an 80 cell
display ... and that might be problematic unless you had a new technology
that allowed rendering Braille at a much lower price point.

Maybe that's a good reason to encourage the people at Tactus Technologies to
get on the ball.  They're supposed to be developing a tactile interface that
is part of the tablet surface where the dots can be "popped up" on demand
... and not be present on a surface when they're not needed.  Meaning ...
anybody could buy the tablet (braille user or sighted user) and either could
use it.  You could have an application that rendered 2 dynamic displays on
the tablet surface ... one for each monitor.  With that kind of technology,
that could really drive prices down as it would be part of the tablet which
everyone would buy.

> From: tami at poodlemutt.com
> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Multi-Post: Braille Displays and feedback.
> 
> Ian,
> 
> I share your dream... When we wonder what to do with our lottery 
> winnings (for when -- not if! -- we finally hit it big), the spouse buys 
> mansions and boats and hires staff and goes from there... I'm busy 
> buying braille displays and embossers and computers... /lol/
> 
> Don't some 80-cell displays do split screen? I seem to remember reading 
> about at least one that could show one screen with 40 cells and another 
> screen with the other 40... I can see how that would be really handy for 
> some tasks! I can see how having a couple of 80 cells in a dual monitor 
> set up would be even handier!
> 
> If the spouse would listen to me and buy *winning* lottery tickets, I 
> would be more than happy to try it out and report back! /lol/
> 
> Tami
> 
> On 09/06/2013 04:32 PM, I. C. Bray wrote:
> > Mike,
> > While I agree that the COST of this venture might be extortionate, I'm
still
> > quite intrigued by the possibility. Is it not feasible that someone have
a
> > FOCUS and a BrailleNote already?? I'm not saying that it makes lots of
> > sence, but still... how much fun would it be to roll up and start
pulling
> > braille accessories out of the clown car backpack, and getting them to
play
> > well together!!
> >
> > ROFL!
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> > To: "'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 2:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Multi-Post: Braille Displays and feedback.
> >
> >
> > : Two Braille displays would be mighty big ... not to mention
prohibitively
> > : expensive!
> > :
> > : Mike
> > :
> > :
> > : -----Original Message-----
> > : From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Suzanne
Germano
> > : Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:29 AM
> > : To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> > : Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Multi-Post: Braille Displays and feedback.
> > :
> > : If you are extending the screen could jaws just read where the mouse
is as
> > : you move from one screen to the next?
> > :
> > : I am not sure since I was not able to get ZoomText to magnify two
> > monitors.
> > : It is supposed to. They must be the same monitor make and model which
they
> > : were. I use two 27 inch displays and mac Zoom or Zoomtext.
> > :
> > :
> > : On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO
<
> > : Susan.Stanzel at kcc.usda.gov> wrote:
> > :
> > : > The sighted people at my work use two monitors all the time. I guess
I
> > : > could have $20,000 worth of Braille displays on my computer (grin).
> > : > I'm really just kidding here, but how would one copy of JAWS keep
> > : > track of two displays? I have a Focus 80 display.
> > : >
> > : > Susie Stanzel
> > : >
> > : > -----Original Message-----
> > : > From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of I. C.
Bray
> > : > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 12:16 PM
> > : > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list; NFB in
> > : > Computer Science Mailing List
> > : > Subject: [nfbcs] Multi-Post: Braille Displays and feedback.
> > : >
> > : > OK, Guys...
> > : >
> > : > I just decided to borrow some old equipment to tinker with, and get
> > : > used to braille on a PC with JAWS.
> > : >
> > : > It has been a while since my System Analyst days, and something just
> > : > struck me.
> > : >
> > : > Any of you who are partially sighted, or who have recently lost
sight,
> > : > will know what a multi head ( monitor ) machine is, and how much fun
> > : > it is to be able to use multiple monitors.
> > : >
> > : > Does anyone have any experience with multiple braille displays on
one
> > : > computer? I mean... I can certainly see how it would be nice ( and
> > nutz
> > : )
> > : > to try.
> > : >
> > : > Since a braille terminal / display is effectively our monitor, I was
> > : > just hypothesising... Does anyone know if it will work?
> > : > If so, what hardware have you used / seen like this? Does someone
out
> > : > there need a fun, quirky research project for a CS class?? LOL!!
> > : >
> > : > Ian
> > : >
> > : >
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