[nfbcs] Using Apple Photo Stream on Windows with JAWS or NVDA

Nicole Torcolini ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Mon Jan 6 14:55:13 UTC 2014


For which apps do you find this to be true? 

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 5:39 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Using Apple Photo Stream on Windows with JAWS or NVDA

Kevin,  It seems to me that for all intents and purposes, Chromevox is a
screen reader, so Google is forcing your screen reader choice if you want
the complete benefits of some of their apps.  I can't agree with this.

Dave

At 03:10 PM 1/4/2014, you wrote:
>ChromeVox has built-in navigation controls and accessibility i.e., 
>speech and Braille output, that permit one to access the app without 
>the need for a separate screen reader.
>So neither Window Eyes, Voiceover,  or JAWS is required.
>This is not a web site context it is an accessibility context for the 
>app itself i.e., Google Chrome.
>
>-Kevin
>
>On Jan 4, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>
> > If one were to employ your reasoning throughout the software 
> > industry, then window-eyes users would have no reason to complain if 
> > software and web site developers developed their sites for JAWS. I'm 
> > afraid that won't fly in the blind user community.
> >
> > Mike Freeman
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kevin 
> > Fjelsted
> > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 8:55 AM
> > To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Using Apple Photo Stream on Windows with JAWS 
> > or NVDA
> >
> > I can use Chromevox across multiple platforms i.e., it is accessible.
> > However it is accessible through the implementation of it's own 
> > accessibility platform which actually improves consistency and 
> > supportability.  It is totally acceptable. to facilitate a common 
> > accessibility interface in this manner. In other words, I don't 
> > think that there should be a mandate that products be accessible via 
> > JAWS for the instance of  the windows platform, If they are indeed 
> > accessible through another method such as ChromeVox supports.
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > On Jan 4, 2014, at 12:10 AM, Nicole Torcolini 
> > <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I don't quite understand what you mean about Chromevox.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kevin 
> >> Fjelsted
> >> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 3:51 PM
> >> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [ ] Using Apple Photo Stream on Windows with JAWS or 
> >> NVDA
> >>
> >> Interesting question about accessibility on a second platform.
> >> Microsoft word is not at accessible on the Mac in fact none of the 
> >> office products are.
> >> In the case of Microsoft office for windows, would there be any 
> >> accessibility without a third party screen reader since Microsoft 
> >> seems to get by being off the hook for supporting screen reading 
> >> functions beyond
> > the
> >> Navigator bare bones?
> >>
> >> iTunes is only accessible on windows because of outside pressures 
> >> litigiously or otherwise.
> >>
> >> Chromevox is accessible on multiple platforms only because it made 
> >> it's
> > own
> >> sub platform. :) We should be demanding that an app be accessible 
> >> on any platform it is built for.
> >>
> >> -Kevin
> >>
> >> On Jan 3, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Nicole Torcolini 
> >> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Has anyone had any luck with managing the Apple photo stream on 
> >>> Windows using JAWS or NVDA? It shows up in two places, which are 
> >>> the actual location and some sort of shortcut under My Computer. 
> >>> The one under My Computer is completely inaccessible. The actual 
> >>> location works like a regular folder; however, moving the files 
> >>> around there has no effect on the files that get synced to my 
> >>> iPhone, so I am guessing that there is something magical about the not
accessible one.
> >>> Any suggestions? Also, to that end, out of curiosity, if a company 
> >>> makes a product that runs on an operating system besides their 
> >>> own, should they have to make it work with the accessibility 
> >>> features of that
> >> operating system?
> >>>
> >>> Nicole


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