[nfbcs] first programs?

[Littlefield, Tyler]

That's awesome. I've had a look at Fortran, but it didn't really seem 
worth going farther with, just as something to do. I've since started 
playing with Haskell, which is math oriented and has a lot of power 
behind it and allows me to learn new paradigms.

Nicole: I wish we would've had classes like that in hs. I was at least 
for the most part self taught. I'm hoping once I get to higher level 
classes, things will start to get a lot harder--I honestly think that 
will come in at more of the theory though rather than programming.

I'm not sure if today's programmers can be classified as kids that point 
and click. Granted a lot of people do use higher level languages for 
countless reasons, the two biggest being that they are easier to develop 
in and most cost effective for larger corporations when such a language 
will work, but the "point and click" I've usually seen is GUI design, 
which still requires people to connect code to events. Otherwise you 
have a pretty gui with no hooks under it to do anything.

I do however think that on a lower level, the high availability of 
higher level languages is making for programmers who aren't exactly as 
good as they should be. lack of understanding of low-level concepts 
coupled with vast resources in terms of memory, CPU and disk space makes 
people much more complacent when designing programs, or at least a lot 
more complacent than some of the programmers were 20 years ago when 
resources were a lot smaller and had to be managed with care. I think 
though that this is also mainly due to a lot of computer science 
curricula that places less importance on understanding these concepts 
and more on being able to code effectively (or at least sort of 
effectively) in a language like Java or c# that has a large portion of 
use in large corporations, as well as the fact that we have such a vast 
quantity of technology out there and it may be hard if not impossible to 
require that a student has some of these concepts down well while also 
covering database management, unix management, high level languages, web 
development etc etc.
On 1/20/2014 8:13 PM, Gabe Vega wrote:
> Dude, you're a real programmer, Thumbs up! today there is no programming for the most part, just scripters and point and click kids. but hey, you rock in my book Mike.
>
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> On Jan 20, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>
>> Lagrangian energy equation written in IBM FORTRAN for the IBM 1130 back in
>> 1970.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
>> Tyler
>> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 4:22 PM
>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>> Subject: [nfbcs] first programs?
>>
>> Hello all:
>> Given that this is a cs list, I kind of had a fun topic. As brought up by
>> one of the most recent threads, I wrote a "swim" program a while back. This
>> was one of my first programs I ever actually wrote for the pc, and was
>> written for a school project in my 6th grade class using Libertybasic. I'd
>> totally forgotten the program or the language itself, but it seems LB is
>> still alive and kicking. I don't really remember much of the details of the
>> program, just that it was a very very basic game, if it can be called that.
>>
>> What were some of your first projects?
>>
>> --
>> Take care,
>> Ty
>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that
>> dares not reason is a slave.
>>
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He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.