[nfbcs] Sonar or Vinux

[Jim Barbour via nfbcs]

I hear you that there's some value in having a distro that's friendly
to blind users.  However, I think this comes at a cost, less work
being done on the mainstream distros.

I don't think the cost is worth the benefit.

Jim

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:39:24AM -0500, John Heim via nfbcs wrote:
> These are all really good points. In fact, I am a case in point. I am going
> to have to abandon sonar once it switches to arch. And I have debian wheezy
> on my desktop for the very reason yu mention. Howerver, I would say that
> anything that helps blind people get started in linux is a good thing.  I
> think it's a good thing that there is at least one distro out there that a
> blind person can get started with without too much work.
> 
> 
> On 05/22/14 10:15, Jim Barbour via nfbcs wrote:
> >I will point out that this is why I'm not a fan of either distro.  The
> >blindness world isn't big enough to command a lot of attention.  The
> >attention we get should be focused on making the distros themselves
> >easier for us to use.  Efforts that try to fork distros, like Ubuntu
> >and arch, into blindness focused ones, like vinux and sonar, do not
> >really help the situation.
> >
> >Further, a blind person isn't going to be able to require that all
> >unix machines they manage run a blindness friendly distro; so this
> >definately doesn't help blind folks get LInux related employment.
> >
> >JIm
> >
> >On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:02:19AM -0400, Littlefield, Tyler via nfbcs wrote:
> >>That's pretty much how it happened. Bill was basically project lead and took
> >>over everything with some guy from Ubuntu who was back and forth, think his
> >>name was tony. Or maybe that was the main guy, it's been a while. Eventually
> >>he just gave it up. My biggest issue is a lot of people call it a "secure
> >>OS," including commtechusa if you care to look at that site. I was just
> >>curious what they offered. Last I looked, Vinux recommended not updating and
> >>they were on an older version of Ubuntu--both not really paths to security.
> >>The updates was because things would break, but that still means you're not
> >>all that secure if you ever leave your house and your personal router.
> >>On 5/22/2014 9:44 AM, John Heim via nfbcs wrote:
> >>>My experience as of about 1 year ago was that sonar was a way more
> >>>polished product than vinux. I've seen a lot of questions about vinux like
> >>>when is the new version coming out, why is it still based on some old
> >>>version of ubuntu. Like so many open source projects, there was probably
> >>>one person, maybe two, driving the project and when they ran out of steam,
> >>>the project slowed to a crawl.
> >>>
> >>>I was so impressed with sonar that I put it on my machine at home. And I
> >>>put it on what I call my drop dead emergency machine here at work. Sonar
> >>>is that solid.
> >>>
> >>>The one problem I have with sonar is that they are switching from basing
> >>>their distro on ubuntu to basing it on arch linux. I will probably drop
> >>>sonar once that conversion is complete. I have to stay with a debian fork
> >>>because my job is to support debian.  What I'd really like is to have
> >>>debian be so accessible that we wouldn't need either sonar or vinux. Well,
> >>>one can dream.
> >>>
> >>>On 05/21/14 20:05, David Andrews via nfbcs wrote:
> >>>>Hi Jim et al:
> >>>>
> >>>>I have a Windows XP laptop that I am thinking of installing a Linux
> >>>>system on, to play and learn a little.  What are
> >>>>advantages/disadvantages to Sonar versus Vinux?
> >>>>
> >>>>Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>-- 
> >>Take care,
> >>Ty
> >>http://tds-solutions.net
> >>He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.
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