[nfbcs] NVDA product question

[Bryan Schulz]

hi,

the actual cost of jaws, etc is the same no matter where it is purchased 
across the country.
I was talking about a midwest contractor that was granted golden boy status 
while two others were forced out of business or the area!
Bryan Schulz


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Wayland via nfbcs" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Bryan Schulz'" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>; "'NFB in Computer Science 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] NVDA product question


> Besides that, Blind people are being told who they have to buy from and 
> not
> be allowed to shop for best prices.
> There is only one company in this area I can by Jaws from, well, not just
> Jaws many other products. As well. This doesn't allow me to shop around 
> the
> country and find a better price. I am not sure if this is even legal. I
> can't think of any other product other than assistive devices that are 
> sold
> this way.
>
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:51 PM
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> Brian,
>
> That's not completely true that vendors are not getting rich from the
> adaptive technology field especially when other vendors are forced to 
> close
> or relocate when a specific vendor is favored!
> Bryan Schulz
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Buhrow via nfbcs" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>; "NFB in Computer Science
> Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>; "Michael Forzano"
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:45 AM
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>
>> Hello.  Everyone who has been following or contributing to this thread
>> on this list needs to read, multiple times, tim Connell's article in
>> the November 2014 Braille Monitor, "What is the Cost of a Free Product?"
>> In that article, he lays out the various funding models for all the
>> access technology available today and lists the vices and virtues of
>> each model.  He makes the point, in a few wores, that I've been trying
>> to make, in a very clumsy fashion, for a number of years.  Free is not
>> always better.
>> I'll add to his point that even more important is the fact that we as
>> blind consumers need to be aware of the cost of free products before
>> we end up paying the ultimate price of freedom, i.e. with our jobs
>> and, potentially, our independence.  I find Jaws to be just as
>> frustrating as the next guy and I don't use it in my daily work.
>> However, I purchase it because it is there if I really need it and
>> there may be a day, and there have been a few, when it did something I
>> really needed.  Many blind professionals I know rely on Jaws every day
>> and I would be very sad to see them lose their livelihoods because
>> Freedom Scientivic could no longer afford to support their products.
>> Sure there are excesses in the market place and companies who've
>> stocked their treasure chests with the gold of the poor who bought
>> their products.  However, let's not let the exception make the rule.
>> Most folks working in the access technology arena are not becoming
>> filthy rich off our baksand, even better for us, they are dedicated
>> individuals who truly believe in helping us achieve independence
>> through improved access to technology and training.  As Tim points
>> out, the philanthropic model, which is how NVDA is funded, is a
>> fragile beast and subject to the whims of the funders which, are, in
>> turn, influenced by a wide array of factors including political
>> considerations, share holder concerns and issues I can't even think
>> of.  Contrary to Tim's essay, I'd argue that technologies like
>> VoiceOver in Apple's iOS  and Talkback in Google's Android survive on
>> the philanthropic model as well, all be it from one donor rather than
>> many.
>> The point I want to make here is that while everyone is discussing the
>> merrits of NVDA versus Jaws relative to their costs, remember that, as
>> Tim points out, we probably don't truly know the cost of free yet. I
>> pray that we will before we actually pay it!
>>
>> -thanks
>> -Brian
>>
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