[nfbcs] Mac Linux key conflict, was Linux and Orca

Wed Aug 5 20:15:27 UTC 2015

Hello Amanda,

Thank you for your reply these links are very helpful. Like I said I have not used Linux for a little over a year now since I use a Mac and have direct access to Unix. Honestly the only reason I want Kali is for the suite of programs it comes preinstalled with as they are not supported on MacosX. 

Actually I am not running VMware Fusion anymore I partitioned my hard drive for the Linux build and was going to use the ever so helpful and annoying tool "refit". I also downloaded Parallels for the virtual window but I was disappointed to see that the program is inaccessible to install with voiceover. I use to use VMware Fusion but I found that it was more frustrating to use the virtual window since the key strokes for the virtual window some times executed Mac osX functions. Have you been able to get around this with the key binding tools you mentioned? Thanks for your email and feedback that helps a lot once I can figure out how to get this Kali build on my machine. 

Go Devils!

Bryan Duarte
ASU Software Engineering
QwikEyes CEO

> On Aug 5, 2015, at 9:19 AM, Amanda Lacy via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bryan,
> 
> Assuming you're using VMWare Fusion, the other day I solved the same
> problem you have now. There are two key assignment programs that have
> been modified to work with VoiceOver for doing this.
> Take a look at this link.
> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
> I installed the two programs and was able to get the caps lock key to
> act as Insert.
> 
> Notes:
> The two programs you will need have been renamed Karabiner and Seil.
> If the old download link on the instructions page doesn't work, the
> latest versions can be found easily with Google.
> 
> Also, the instructions say "in System Preferences under Other you will
> find both PCKeyboardhack and Keyremap4Macbook"
> I didn't find this to be the case. Instead I had to launch the two
> applications and change settings from there.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Amanda
> On 8/5/15, Bryan Duarte via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Does anyone here run Linux on a Mac system? I had it running on an old mac
>> book pro a couple of years ago but I found it was really difficult to use
>> Orca key strokes since there was no "Insert" key on the Mac machines. I have
>> a Mac Book Air I do all my software development on these days and I have
>> been very unsuccessful in getting it installed on this machine. I am trying
>> to install Kali Linux.
>> 
>> I am tempted to just go out and buy a small machine which is Windows based
>> to splat with Linux so I can use Kali. Any suggestions? Thanks
>> 
>> Go Devils!
>> 
>> Bryan Duarte
>> ASU Software Engineering
>> QwikEyes CEO
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 7:15 AM, John G. Heim via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I do linux server support for the Math department at the University of
>>> Wisconsin and I have used orca full time for many years.  It's pretty
>>> good.
>>> 
>>> I tried to make a screen reader rating page a while ago and gave up
>>> because it became a religious war. Even though I use orca full time, I'd
>>> rate it last in quality amoung jaws, nvda, voiceover, and orca. But that
>>> doesn't mean orca is crummy. It's got some bugs. Personally, I live with
>>> them because , first of all, they are minor bugs, and secondly, it's free.
>>> And I really like linux.
>>> 
>>> I think it depends on what you want to do. I think linux is great so I put
>>> up with the few little gotchas in orca. I do linux support so most of my
>>> time is spent in a text editor, in an ssh window, and reading email. Orca
>>> is greatfor all those things. I think if you stick to the basic stuff, you
>>> will have very few problems. There are problems browsing fancier web sites
>>> but in some ways, orca is handier than other screen readers in  browser.
>>> The main developer, Joanmarie Diggs, is on the orca support list and asks
>>> the users what we want orca to do. And if you report a bug, she will often
>>> fix it the same day. IMO, Joanmarie Diggs is a hero.
>>> 
>>> On 08/04/2015 11:22 PM, Jim Barbour via nfbcs wrote:
>>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> On another list recently I gave my opinion of Orca, which is basically
>>>> that I've never had much luck using it and didn't think much of it.
>>>> 
>>>> That opinion has been challenged by at least one person, leading me to
>>>> ask the question here.  I would like to hear from folks who are using
>>>> Orca. Are you successfully using Orca as your primary screen reader on
>>>> Linux, and how is it working for you?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Jim
>>>> 
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