[nfbcs] jGRASP Editor Plus Tips on How to get to know program accessibility/work arounds when you are new to programming

[William Grussenmeyer]

My experience in my beginning programming course was that the other
java IDEs were inaccessible except for Eclipse.  Eclipse has a bigger
learning curse so you should really pick it up and start messing
around with it as soon as possible.  Also, I don't  think there will
be any problem with continuity with the class as you are learning java
and not the software IDE.  It doesn't matter what IDE you use.  I
think there is a Eclipse with Jaws starter guide somewhere on the
internet.  I don't have the link.  Maybe someone else has the link?
If you cant find it, I can write up some of the basic things to do and
know.

On 3/19/15, Robert Guyette via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Cindy
>
> I would be willing to help you with job I have that many experiences
> programming languages.  I think you'll do well. Good .
>
> Thinks
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Currin, Kevin via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Cindy,
>>
>> I have never used jGRASP, but I have used eclipse. If you do decide to go
>> with eclipse, it's worth knowing that it uses a lot of memory and if you
>> use it with jaws, you should have probably at least 4 gb of ram to stop it
>> from freezing. When I used it for a class, I only had 2 gb of ram and it
>> was terribly slow. However, it works find with my 8 gb computer. However,
>> with the sluggish nature of eclipse and all of the key commands I had to
>> memorize to use it, I had a really tough time with the object oriented
>> java course for which I was using eclipse. I attribute this difficulty to
>> accessibility because I was able to learn the programming concepts much
>> better latter when I learned more about compiling code in the terminal. I
>> was then able to just use notepad and the terminal, which cut down on a
>> lot of the overhead and allowed me to focus on programming. However,
>> things like jGRASP and eclipse are very useful in that they provide
>> debuggers, good package management (at least for eclipse), and easy access
>> to methods of objects and so on.
>>
>> I like the edsharp editor, which is developed specifically for blind
>> users. It has cool features like speaking the indentation level of the
>> lines. However, you can configure jaws to do this for any document.
>> Edsharp has some compilation capabilities, but I have only used it for
>> python and LaTeX. If you are interest, here is a link:
>> http://empowermentzone.com/EdSharp.htm
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nfbcs [nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Cindy Bennett via
>> nfbcs [nfbcs at nfbnet.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 6:13 PM
>> To: nfbcs
>> Subject: [nfbcs] jGRASP Editor Plus Tips on How to get to know program
>> accessibility/work arounds when you are new to programming
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am taking my first programming course next quarter. All examples
>> will be given in the jGRASP editor. Do any of you have experience
>> using this editor? I would prefer to use it for continuity with the
>> class but will take suggestions for preferred Java environments. I
>> have already been encouraged to use Eclipse.
>>
>> Also, I am very new to programming. What strategies did you use to get
>> to know programming environments and to determine accessibility
>> barriers versus knowledge barriers? I do appreciate the resources that
>> have gone around in response to the research project and will
>> certainly check those out.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Cindy Bennett
>> 1st Year Ph.D. Student, University of Washington
>> Human Centered Design and Engineering
>>
>> Treasurer of the National Federation of the Blind of Washington
>> an Affiliate of the National Federation of the Blind
>>
>> clb5590 at gmail.com
>>
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Bill