[nfbcs] [Accessible Scrum tool
Jude DaShiell
jdashiel at panix.com
Sun Oct 18 09:58:02 UTC 2015
Probably a better tool than org-mode for this will be emacs-scrum at:
https://github.com/ianxm/emacs-scrum
I had contact with a software engineer on the org-mode list and that's
the tool he uses for scrum.
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015, Jude DaShiell via nfbcs wrote:
> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 03:46:31
> From: Jude DaShiell via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> To: Bryan Duarte <bjduarte at asu.edu>, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>
> Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>,
> Jim Barbour via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] [Accessible Scrum tool
>
> Thinking about this, it won't matter what your team uses if you use org-mode.
> First of all, in org-mode outline items can get categories and properties
> which a user can assign and the user gets to select what each are called
> depending on the particular application for which org-mode is being used.
> Once that gets done, it's possible to search based on those properties and
> categories. The other good thing about org-mode once you learn to do the
> format correctly is that the output is ascii text files with the org
> extension. It is possible to use latex and babel inside of org-mode for
> fancy reports and source code as well. So an item is a blocker, put it in the
> blocker category or give it a blocker property then document it however you
> need. The org-mode package can do tables and spreadsheets as well if those
> are needed and has a support email list which is high volume and high signal
> to noise too. I would be really surprised if noone on that email list hasn't
> already used org-mode to manage scrum for a team or themselves yet, but I can
> ask and post whatever comes back in terms of responses here if you like. The
> emacs system works on mac windows and linux and even dos if you have to go
> that low these days.
>
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015, Bryan Duarte wrote:
>
>> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:51:12
>> From: Bryan Duarte <bjduarte at asu.edu>
>> To: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>
>> Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>,
>> Jim Barbour via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] [Accessible Scrum tool
>>
>> Jim you again make a very good point and solid argument! Thank you for that
>> harsh reality...
>>
>> Go Devils!
>>
>> Bryan Duarte
>> Software Engineering Graduate student
>> ASU Fulton Engineering College
>> QwikEyes CEO
>>
>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, but Bryan I think you're focused on the wrong part of this problem.
>>>
>>> Let's pretend that you found a perfectly good, accessible, scrum
>>> tool. Let's also pretend that you got your team to agree to switch to
>>> it. That gets you through this project,
>>>
>>> But, what happens when you get employed somewhere that doesn't use this
>>> tool? You'll likely not convince your team to use a one off tool just for
>>> you, and you'll likely not convince the company to switch tools, at least
>>> not right away. You're much better off if you learn how to survive in
>>> environments where the tools you are required to deal with aren't
>>> necessarily accessible.
>>>
>>> You might be able to convince your employer to switch tools eventually,
>>> but not before you've had to complete a scrum or two using the
>>> inaccessible tool.
>>>
>>> Knowing how to survive in technologically unfriendly environments is a
>>> very important skill for a bind person to have.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 04:39:02PM -0700, Bryan Duarte wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Jim for this feedback. I have talked with my team and they are
>>>> all willing to do this for me as you stated. It just gets more and more
>>>> difficult the more I learn, do, and am a partpart of and still am having
>>>> to figure out half ass work arounds. I have searched for, downloaded, and
>>>> tried probably 10 to 15 different scrum tools and not a single one was
>>>> accessible and this upsets me. Worst case scenario I do as you suggested
>>>> once again, but I am not going to give up the search. Thank you sir
>>>>
>>>> Go Devils!
>>>>
>>>> Bryan Duarte
>>>> Software Engineering Graduate student
>>>> ASU Fulton Engineering College
>>>> QwikEyes CEO
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Bryan,
>>>>>
>>>>> I really believe that your best bet is going to be to use your
>>>>> teammates as your interface to the scrub board.r
>>>>>
>>>>> At the beginning of each sprint, get someone to let you know what your
>>>>> tasks are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once a day, or however is comfortable, email your scrum master with
>>>>> updates for your items and ask them to put them in. You should
>>>>> probably check with them first, but I'm betting they won't mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before the sprint retrospective, ask someone to mark your completed
>>>>> items as done. Or, just have the scrum master do it during the
>>>>> retrospective.
>>>>>
>>>>> You'll need to get comfortable with the idea of getting help to manage
>>>>> these tools, and this seems like a good opportunity to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 04:29:17PM -0700, Bryan Duarte wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my opinion I have always had to and been able to find work arounds
>>>>>> but there is a lot of disconnect between my team and I when I am unable
>>>>>> to independently access the tools being used by the rest of the team.
>>>>>> When doing agile programming it is very important that the team is on
>>>>>> the same page and constantly referring to and updating the scrum board
>>>>>> as development moves forward. Last year I used the work around of
>>>>>> Trello as a scrum board and although it was functional for a time there
>>>>>> were features that a real scrum tool could give that we were unable to
>>>>>> use in our team and we paid the price for it in the end. I would truly
>>>>>> like to locate a scrum tool that my team and I can use but so far have
>>>>>> come up empty in my search. Thanks all for your feedback so far...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go Devils!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bryan Duarte
>>>>>> Software Engineering Graduate student
>>>>>> ASU Fulton Engineering College
>>>>>> QwikEyes CEO
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't agree that outlining is a good way to do this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most people want a tool that understands, and correctly visualizes,
>>>>>>> dependencies, blockers, timelines, etc. You can force these concepts
>>>>>>> on top of org-mode, but there are tools that are built for this
>>>>>>> purpose. Unfortunately, it's unclear if any of them are accessible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Put differently, if I'm a blind scrum master, I might use org-mode and
>>>>>>> just ask everyone to put up with the way it looks. If I'm not the
>>>>>>> scrum master, I'm not likely to convince the scrum master to use an
>>>>>>> outlining tool instead of a scrum tool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 07:02:49PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>>>>>> Very probably org-mode inside any modern emacs could be used for this
>>>>>>>> project management work. Each sprint would just be a level down on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> outline. The website is http://www.org-mode.org/ and there's lots of
>>>>>>>> tutorials available along with 3rd party extra applications that can
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> installed to make org-mode do even more. The org-mode tool isn't bad
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> exporting web pages either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015, Jim Barbour via nfbcs wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 18:29:29
>>>>>>>>> From: Jim Barbour via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> To: Bryan Duarte <bjduarte at asu.edu>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>,
>>>>>>>>> NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] [Accessible Scrum tool
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey Bryan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, sorry. Jira is all we've been using.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 03:14:55PM -0700, Bryan Duarte wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have you used any free scrum tools? Jira wants $10 a month for
>>>>>>>>>> their tool.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Go Devils!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bryan Duarte
>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineering Graduate student
>>>>>>>>>> ASU Fulton Engineering College
>>>>>>>>>> QwikEyes CEO
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Jim Barbour via nfbcs
>>>>>>>>>>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Scrum, part of the agile development process. Often described as
>>>>>>>>>>> the management and execution of a set of sprints designed to
>>>>>>>>>>> complete a particular project. A sprint is a set of tasks to
>>>>>>>>>>> complete within a given period of time, usually a week or two.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 05:03:52PM -0500, Todor Fassl via nfbcs
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Scrub? As in wipe? Meaning wipe the data off a hard drive? I
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know how
>>>>>>>>>>>> to do this with a Mac. But on PC hardware, I use a live linux
>>>>>>>>>>>> distro called
>>>>>>>>>>>> grml. Then I use the dd command thusly:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=4096
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> if= the imput file. In this case, a device that generates zeros.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's built
>>>>>>>>>>>> into the linux kernel.
>>>>>>>>>>>> of= output file. In this case, /dev/sda will be your harddisk.
>>>>>>>>>>>> bs= the buffer size. 4096 is the sector size of most disks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can also use /dev/random for the input file and it will write
>>>>>>>>>>>> random
>>>>>>>>>>>> numbers to the disk. That makes it less likely that someone with
>>>>>>>>>>>> a magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>> scanner can resurrect the drive. Supposedly, if you write random
>>>>>>>>>>>> numbers to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the disk like a dozen times even the CIA can't get the data back.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It would
>>>>>>>>>>>> take forever though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For purposes of your class, you might be able to us the example
>>>>>>>>>>>> command I
>>>>>>>>>>>> gave above.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/16/2015 04:39 PM, Bryan Duarte via nfbcs wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am a senior in Software Engineering at Arizona State. I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering if anyone out there knows of an accessible scrum tool?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am on a project team with three other developers and they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> planning to use scrumwise which is completely inaccessible for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using Mac osX with voiceover if you have any feedback on an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessible scrum tool. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go Devils!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bryan Duarte
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineering Graduate student
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASU Fulton Engineering College
>>>>>>>>>>>>> QwikEyes CEO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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