[nfbcs] Fwd: Collecting Information for Microsoft's new CAO

[Jeanine Lineback]

Hello, for what it's worth, I did upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 using a combination of narrator and NVDA. I know, this was not a clean install but rather it is an upgrade. However, it was possible without cited assistance.

Dictated on an iPhone.

> On Feb 23, 2016, at 8:39 PM, Greg Kearney via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> MacOS can be installed with VoiceOver
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Greg Kearney
> 
>> On Feb 23, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Christopher Chaltain via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, are you saying this is just the current state of affairs, or are you saying that you'll never be able to use a screen reader to install Windows? I wouldn't agree with the second statement, since if you can do it on Linux, I don't know why you shouldn't be able to do it on Windows with a built in screen reader.
>> 
>>> On 23/02/16 20:12, Nicole Torcolini wrote:
>>> Okay, my error. I meant on Windows. *grin*
>>> 
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>>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
>>> Chaltain via nfbcs
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 5:58 PM
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>>> Cc: Christopher Chaltain
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Fwd: Collecting Information for Microsoft's new CAO
>>> 
>>> I don't understand. This isn't true at all. I've installed Linux more times
>>> than I can count with the Orca screen reader. This is true on bare metal and
>>> in a virtual machine. I don't see why the same couldn't be true on Windows,
>>> and in fact, I've used Narrator to set up a system where the OS was already
>>> installed, so I don't see that it's a big leap to be able to use Narrator
>>> during an install. If I had a Windows 10 CD, I'd pop it into my system, hit
>>> the Windows+Enter hot key to start Narrator and see how far I could get.
>>> 
>>>> On 23/02/16 17:54, Nicole Torcolini via nfbcs wrote:
>>>> It does not matter what screen reader you are using. During os
>>> installation, a screen reader cannot be used.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:54 PM, paras shah via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think the following improvements should be made to assistive
>>>> technologies that Microsoft makes.
>>>> If you are installing windows, narrator should guide you through the
>>>> install process. Also, let's say you are resetting the PC, narrator
>>>> should speak any proms that come up during the reset process.
>>>> Narrators should work like voiceover and be a full-fledged screen
>>>> reader. This is necessary no matter what other companies say.
>>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 2:02 PM ed meskys via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I am also carboning Jan McSorley directly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Over ten years ago a sighted friend helped me create several
>>>>> databases in ACCESS, which I have used successfully with JFW. While I
>>>>> could not create them, I was successful in looking up information,
>>>>> adding or deleting records, or updating fields. I did this in W98SE
>>>>> and WXP. My new computer has W7 and I cannot find the database. In
>>>>> WXP I would "enter" on "access,", type "ctr o", and backtab once.
>>>>> Then I would downarrow until I found the database I needed, and open it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had sighted help transferring my files to the new computer, but
>>>>> simply cannot find them to open them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a slow learning curve in learning new software, so am
>>>>> reluctant to go to W10. How well have other blind users coped? I am
>>>>> using the Office 03 version of Access, and had seen no need to find
>>>>> someone to reprogram my databases in a newer version. My friend who
>>>>> did the original programming died several years ago, and I do not
>>>>> have a new person.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you think a reply on this listserv would bore others, please reply
>>>>> off-line directly to
>>>>> 
>>>>> edmeskys at gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Ed Meskys
>>>>> 
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