[nfbcs] Petition Asking President Obama To Direct the JusticeDepartment to Issue ADA Internet Regulations

[Peter Donahue]

Hello Dave and everyone,

	The only way to put these notions to the test is for the NFB to host
such petitions on its own Website. Facebook etc were unknowns at one time
but people spread the word and they're now house-hold social networking
sites. Obviously if I have information of interest and want to direct
Internet traffic to it and want visitors to not encounter accessibility
issues I would host such information on a Website usable by all including
those who use assistive technology. Furthermore those who visit a Website
designed with accessibility in mind would see an example of how a Website
must be designed that is usable by all visitors including the blind. If the
NFB did this with this petition we wouldn't have our inboxes cluttered by
messages from those having difficulty signing the petition to wade through.
Mary and I support the spirit of what we want to see the Obama
Administration to to improve Internet accessibility but not at the expense
of having difficulty accessing the very petitions we're being asked to sign.
This is America and there must be different approaches for solving the same
issue that appeal to the needs of different people. If organizations like
the NFB want us to sign petitions of this nature they had better be hosted
on Websites usable by the blind including the organization's own accessible
Website. People come after organizations because they're made to do so by
said organizations hypocritical actions!

Peter Donahue



-----Original Message-----
From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews via
nfbcs
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:33 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
Cc: David Andrews
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Petition Asking President Obama To Direct the
JusticeDepartment to Issue ADA Internet Regulations

Peter, get off your high horse. You certainly seem willing to go after the
NFB at every opportunity.

While the accessibility problems are unfortunate, they are also an
opportunity to work with the web site developers.

I presume this site was picked because it is an official Obama
administration site, and they have said they will seriously consider
anything that gets 100,000 signatures.

I would guess that if we hosted the petition, we would not get such
consideration.

Dave

At 03:39 PM 1/16/2016, you wrote:


>Good afternoon everyone,
>
>     It's because the NFB acted irresponsibly and used and placed the 
> petition on a Website with known accessibility issues and no way to 
> fix it. The organization has its in-house content management system 
> and could have hosted it there where it can be managed by in-house 
> technology staff who better understand the business of making Internet 
> resources accessible. I've seen this organization go down this road 
> many times and it's time for it to stop!
>
>Peter Donahue
>
>
>
>Jennifer Aberdeen via nfbcs wrote:
>>Why is this patition not accessible? When I click on the submit 
>>button, in different ways; enter, space, left mouse button on the num 
>>pad, nothing happens.
>>
>>I'm using jaws 13 with win 7 and IE 11.
>>
>>Jen
>>
>>-----Original Message----- From: Curtis Chong via nfbcs
>>Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 1:38 PM
>>To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
>>Cc: Curtis Chong
>>Subject: [nfbcs] Petition Asking President Obama To Direct the 
>>JusticeDepartment to Issue ADA Internet Regulations
>>
>>Greetings:
>>
>>On Tuesday, January 12, 2016, the National Federation of the Blind 
>>launched a petition (the link to which is provided below) calling on 
>>the Obama administration promptly to release the long-awaited ADA 
>>internet regulations. On the 20th anniversary of the Americans with 
>>Disabilities Act (way back in 2010), President Obama said that he 
>>would issue regulations implementing the requirement for accessible 
>>websites, noting that they would be "the most important updates to the ADA
since its original enactment."
>>President Obama now says that the regulations will not be released 
>>until 2018, after he leaves office.
>>
>>For those of who are blind, inaccessible websites can make it 
>>impossible to apply for jobs, participate in online courses, or 
>>conduct vital personal financial business. Website developers need 
>>guidance on how to comply with the law. Failing to provide that 
>>guidance is irresponsible and inconsistent with President Obama's
expressed commitment to civil rights.
>>
>>If you are interested in signing the petition (and I hope you are), 
>>point your browser to this link.
>>
>>https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/direct-us-department-justice
>>-promp
>>tly-release-ada-internet-regulations
>>
>>As an example of the need for these regulations, some JAWS users 
>>running Internet Explorer have reported a problem with the "sign" 
>>button when attempting to add their name. Here are some solutions to 
>>help mitigate that problem.
>>
>>1.            Try routing the JAWS cursor to PC (Insert+Numpad Minus), and
>>pressing  the left mouse button (Numpad Slash), and the "sign" button 
>>will be selected.
>>
>>2.            Alternatively, you can sign the petition using the Mozilla
>>Firefox browser.
>>
>>The petition is reported to be accessible using iOS devices such as 
>>the iPad or iPhone.
>>
>>Cordially,
>>
>>Curtis Chong, President
>>National Federation of the Blind in Computer Science

         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org


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