[nfbcs] Computer science major college question

Taylor Arndt taylorarndt99 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 5 04:00:48 UTC 2016 

Our internships throughout your school or how you get them

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> On Jul 4, 2016, at 10:13 PM, Robert Spangler via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> 
> I think the overall message to take from this conversation is that the
> degree itself doesn't matter; it's more the experience.  If you want to go
> into programming, but you do not wish to take all of the math requirements,
> do Information Systems or the equivalent at your school.  There is some
> math, of course, but less.  In addition, there would be business-specific
> courses such as Accounting.  You would still take programming classes and
> database management.  All programs differ, of course, so you would want to
> check all of the details for your specific school.
> 
> The experience could come from internships and, if they are available,
> definitely do them.  This shows that you have the experience to do the job.
> You will put these on your resume.  Also, explore programming on your own
> time.  Nothing says more than the fact that you enjoy doing what you do
> enough to explore it during free time.
> 
> Good luck!
> Robert
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Taylor Arndt via
> nfbcs
> Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 8:57 PM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Taylor Arndt <taylorarndt99 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Computer science major college question
> 
> Yo, what do you recommend I do. I started learning programming, but I really
> would like to have a programming job. So are you saying that I should get a
> degree in computer information systems and then do internships?
> 
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>>> On Jul 4, 2016, at 8:13 PM, Greg Kearney via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> One of the issue that I have with Computer Science degree programs is that
> of timing. Computer Science is a field which is changing very rapidly.
> Universities and colleges are notable for not being able to modify their
> academic programs very fast. This leads, as I have found in the process of
> interviewing people, to a situation where the person is literally four years
> behind the current state of industry by the time they emerge form a CS
> program.
>> 
>> It is for this reason that certificate programs offered by community
> colleges are sometimes more valuable. While traditional CS undergraduate
> programs give the student a sound understanding of the theory of computer
> programming; certificate programs give one the practical application of
> theory. Many a CS major I have encountered can write out an algorithm on
> paper but are hard pressed to implement the same algorithm in Python when
> asked to do so.
>> 
>> The reason is that Professor X has been teaching his algorithms class for
> the last 20 years the same way from the same text. This in a field in which
> everything changes every few month. It does you little good to learn
> algorithms in Fortran or Cobol when employers need it in Python or Swift.
>> 
>> Greg
>>> On Jul 4, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Andy B. via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are those who choose to open their own business for purposes 
>>> that an established company cannot provide. For an example, my 
>>> company will provide a valuable resource for soon to be graduates.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nicole 
>>> Torcolini via nfbcs
>>> Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 6:46 PM
>>> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Nicole Torcolini <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Computer science major college question
>>> 
>>> Some companies will not hire people who do not have a Computer 
>>> Science degree. However, that does not necessarily mean that you have to
> get one.
>>> Either way, be sure to get your hands on some real life work through 
>>> an internship or something before trying to get a job.
>>> The DRC at my college was very helpful. It just depends on the 
>>> school. Some DRC's can provide a lot of help in some areas but not 
>>> others, so make sure that you talk to the DRC before you apply or accept.
>>> Many colleges require a foreign language. Most have a wide enough 
>>> selection that you should be able to choose the one that you want. 
>>> What specifically are you concerned about with foreign languages?
>>> College is similar to high school in that you are still required to 
>>> take certain subjects; you just have more options for the specifics 
>>> in those subjects.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aaron 
>>> Cannon via nfbcs
>>> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 9:33 AM
>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>>> Cc: Aaron Cannon
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Computer science major college question
>>> 
>>> If you really want to program, don't wait until college to learn. If 
>>> you want to learn it, then learn it. There are tons of free resources 
>>> online, and even more on BookShare.
>>> 
>>> If you'd like some pointers on getting started, ask on this group.
>>> 
>>> Best of luck.
>>> Aaron
>>> 
>>> --
>>> This message was sent from a mobile device
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 4, 2016, at 08:58, Taylor Arndt via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well, I want to be able to program.
>>>> 
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>>>>> On Jul 4, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Greg Kearney via nfbcs 
>>>>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You will definitely need calculus for a computer science degree. 
>>>>> Most
>>> schools will also require a language. That said I have heard of a few 
>>> school that accept computer languages (C, Fortran, Python, etc.) for 
>>> this requirement but such schools are, I suspect, very, very rare.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As a dyslexic I was told to steer well clear of formal foreign 
>>>>> language
>>> instruction and so ended up taking American Sign Language to fill my 
>>> university's language requirement. The advantage was that ASL has no 
>>> written form and as such I was never required to learn to read, write 
>>> or spell in it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I went to school the disabled student's office provided far 
>>>>> less
>>> support than many of them do today. What support they gave was 
>>> welcome however, they could, for example, insure that once I had 
>>> signed up for a class and the recorded book were ordered that the 
>>> class would be offered no matter what.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would also point out here that there are many paths to a career 
>>>>> in
>>> technology and no all of them lead through a computer science degree. 
>>> Today I hold the professional title of engineer at a major silicon 
>>> valley company, yet my degree is in fine arts with graduate work in 
>>> American Studies. I never once had any formal computer science or 
>>> engineering training but I did avail myself of some programming 
>>> classes that filled the math requirements in college.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many of the people I work with directly have degrees in music and 
>>>>> others
>>> in fields as wide ranging as philosophy and history and came to 
>>> computer science after the fact. Indeed my company often tells people 
>>> they should ignore the education requirements section of job posting 
>>> and apply if they feel they can do the work. My supervisor never set 
>>> foot on a college campus but came out of the military.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg Kearney
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 3, 2016, at 11:40 PM, Taylor Arndt via nfbcs 
>>>>>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Really? I thought if you went into the sciences you didn't have to 
>>>>>> have
>>> one wow that stinks
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Andy B. via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1. I had to take calculus. Why? When you start getting into 
>>>>>>> database
>>> cross products, intersections, and unions/set theory, having an 
>>> understanding of these from a math point of view helps. Finally, 
>>> during week
>>> 1 of one of my programming classes starting tomorrow, we have to 
>>> write a program that solves a 4-line algebra problem.
>>>>>>> 2. The DS offices did not do much for me in my undergrad degree.
>>>>>>> 3. Almost all schools require a foreign language credit(s). Mine 
>>>>>>> did
>>> not because I took classes online.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert
>>> Guyette via nfbcs
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 9:34 PM
>>>>>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Robert Guyette <rags215 at comcast.net>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Computer science major college question
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes you have to take calculus bedside you will use it in computer
>>> science classes.  The more the math the better.  I did  not rely on 
>>> the disabled students services.
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 6:27 PM -0700, "Taylor Arndt via nfbcs"
>>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi, so I am doing some research for colleges. I know that I want 
>>>>>>> to
>>> major in computer science but I have few questions One. Do you have 
>>> to take calculus in college?
>>>>>>> If so why is this?
>>>>>>> Two. Did the disability services at your college help you in 
>>>>>>> anyway for
>>> your computer science major?
>>>>>>> Three. Did you have to take a foreign language class in order to
>>> graduate?
>>>>>>> Thanks, and I'd appreciate any input
>>>>>>> 
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