[nfbcs] Future goals for the division
Kevin Fjelsted
kfjelsted at gmail.com
Wed Jul 20 19:49:24 UTC 2016
I would recommend Wordpress. It will be easier for a broader development community to
participate.
My group has taken a number of web sites and simplified the development environment by using Wordpress. One would not be able to tell that a site is even using WordPress.
I give as an example http://alticomcti.com/ <http://alticomcti.com/>
-Kevin
> On Jul 20, 2016, at 2:38 PM, Andy B. via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> We must decide on some sort of CMS. Drupal or Wordpress?
>
>
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> Cc: Kevin Fjelsted <kfjelsted at gmail.com>; Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Future goals for the division
>
> There is need for a web site architecture that not only supports wiki but
> static structures as well such as blog postings, podcasts or other
> audio/video resources an an overall link map and search structure. If we
> also link to publication sites such as Bookshare or another type of
> repository such as Git for program code it would be useful to come up with a
> web design that supports access from one nFBCS domain so that information
> is easy to fine, and that domain can be a hub for NFBCS.
>
> The hosting facility should be robust enough to support these functions.
> Also, creation of the web site should permit testing areas where new persons
> such as students or other CSCI folks can contribute. Half of the value in
> creating a web site is the collaborative experience that can be gained by
> permitting a number of folks who wish to construct portions of the site to
> participate.
> -Kevin
>
>> On Jul 20, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Kathryn Webster via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Debee and all,
>>
>> I would be exceedingly interested in contributing to this. I'd like
>> to echo Jim's suggestion of a wiki as that would be easy to maintain,
>> edit, and expand.
>> In terms of publicity, I'm eager to take the lead on marketing any new
>> intiatives to help blind students through our master database and website.
>> Collaboration amongst divisions is a significant goal of mine, and I
>> see the CS Division as an ideal place to continue that effort. Our
>> student division leaders, particularly Bryan Duarte and myself, are
>> both very in touch with CS and student issues, so there is some place for
> us to start.
>> If our CS Division leadership chooses to move forward with this idea,
>> count me in on all accounts. I am more than happy to help with
>> whatever is necessary in kickstarting this effort.
>>
>> What a fabulous idea!
>>
>> Best,
>> Kathryn
>>
>> Kathryn Webster
>> President | National Association of Blind Students
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> via nfbcs
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 1:07 PM
>> To: Deborah Armstrong via nfbcs
>> Cc: Jim Barbour
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Future goals for the division
>>
>> I think Debee has a great idea. I actually think it's a very good
>> application for a wiki.
>>
>> One person won't know everything about what is accessible and what
>> isn't, even in the developer and IT focused worlds.
>>
>> If we agree, I'd be happy to work with Curtis W on setting up a wiki
>> and start populating it. I'd like to hear from folks that we think
>> this is worth collaborating on.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 04:54:45PM +0000, Deborah Armstrong via nfbcs
> wrote:
>>>> I'm interested in hearing from folks on this list about things
>>>> they'd
>> like to see the NFB in Computer Science do in the future
>>> I'm changing the subject line so people won't skip over it.
>>>
>>> I think one of the most crucial things is to put together an online
>>> paper,
>> that is updated regularly, that spells out what one needs to know to
>> get started in any computer science related field. This would be
>> different from what sighted people need to know; it would focus on
>> which current tools are accessible, which aren't, and include the
>> resources such as books or online training that were discussed over in the
> other thread.
>>>
>>> I work at a college, and I know new blind students get stymied by the
>> simplest things because they lack experience and so do their sighted
>> helpers. For example, I heard of a student who dropped a Linux class
>> which was all command-line based, because the rest of the class was
>> using telnet built in to Windows to log in to the class server. Not
>> sure why they used anything this insecure, but I wasn't administering
>> that system and heard about it third-hand. And JAWS was not accurately
>> reading what appeared onscreen, nor was it tracking the cursor when
>> the student tried to use Emacs. As a Linux-head I had to laugh a bit
>> about the ignorance that lead the student and his professor to
>> conclude the coursework was inaccessible, but it's not a laughing matter,
> when a beginner doesn't know where to turn.
>>>
>>> The document could have sections: What you need to know to Learn C++"
>>> or
>> "What you need to know in your first Visual Basic Class" etc.
>>>
>>> I also think we need to nail down and possibly explain the reasons
>>> behind
>> the inaccessibility of many current tools. For example, if the QT4
>> library is used in creating interfaces, screen readers only partially
>> identify or even recognize the existence of controls. If in learning
>> SQL the difference between inner joins and outer joins is explained
>> through the use of diagrams only, then it's not going to make sense to
>> any blind student. That caused me, an experience programmer to drop a
>> course just last year. I would have loved to be able to find a paper
>> that outlined where I could go to locate a book that explained these
> concepts in plain English.
>>>
>>> Another thought about UML: wild idea here, but how about digital
>>> tactile
>> diagrams of the symbols that could be embossed? I know different
>> embossers have different codes for doing graphics, but someone who
>> knows more about this than I could perhaps take the lead here. A
>> student could simply emboss the shapes, or get their school to do it,
>> and then using post-it note glue which comes in sticks, post their
>> charts on a classroom wall, doing homework along with a sighted class.
>>>
>>> One way in which I can contribute is writing, and I'd be happy to
>>> take the
>> lead on that part.
>>>
>>> --Debee
>>>
>>>
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