[nfbcs] Terminal emulation and Jaws

Thu Oct 13 16:22:21 UTC 2016

Insert-7 is Window class reassign and you can also find it in the list with insert-F2 which lists the JAWS managers.

However, that only works for default behavior, for example if something is a tree view but JAWS doesn't know that's what this control is. You point to the tree view, use the feature to tell JAWS it's a tree view and now when you arrow up and down, left and right, JAWS reads correctly.

I'm thinking that the actual scripts refer to a particular Window class, in pseudocode

If WindowClass equals 3270 emulator
Then
    Read New text
Else
    Speak only highlighted text

I think I'm barking up the wrong tree if you didn't have to change the version of the emulator. I wish I knew more how the scripts worked. If you disabled them on the system where TN3270 works OK with JAWS, can you read the screen at all? That is, do the scripts make is more convenient, or is nothing read if they are not in the mix?

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From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via nfbcs
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I do remember having to do something with window class, in the distant past.
Can you refresh my memory as to where to find them?  Is it under scripts, or configuration?

I did not need to change the emulator version to go to Windows 7.
Tracy

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From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong via nfbcs
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I wonder if it is something as simple as a window class changing? Do you know what the scripts are doing? Perhaps it's as simple as doing a Say All when a particular window class has focus.

You need to eliminate some factors; is this the same version of TN3270? Or did you have to upgrade it to get it working with Windows 7?

--Debee

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From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Lee via nfbcs
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 7:00 AM
To: Tracy Carcione via nfbcs
Cc: Doug Lee
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Terminal emulation and Jaws

Not sure how fast I can do this by mail, but here goes...

Am I safe to assume that the JAWS cursor reported text from the terminal window before but no longer does?

Try maximizing the terminal screen. If that doesn't work, find a way, perhaps via visual assistance, to verify that no window is covering up all or part of the terminal window. So-called "stay on top" windows, like alert messages and popup dialogs, can do that even over a maximized screen sometimes.

Let me know what comes of those ideas and I'll see where to go from there.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 09:07:36AM -0400, NFBCS mailing list wrote:
I have a terminal emulator, TN3270,  I've been using for probably 20 years on various machines.  Today, I installed it on my husband's new Dell, running Windows 7 and Jaws 15.  I installed the scripts and compiled them, and I set up the session display the same as I always do.  However, Jaws is not reading the terminal screen at all.  I called Jaws tech support, but their only idea was to upgrade Jaws to 17.  I can do this, but I'm sure it won't fix my problem.

If anyone has any more productive ideas, I'd be glad for them.

Tracy

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