[nfbcs] A+ Certification

[Jim Barbour]

Hey Everyone,

The way I would think about it is that readers and screenreaders each have pros and cons.

Taken on balance, however, I would say that a reader is much more flexible than a screen reader.  It is true that you'd need to be able to vet and pick your own reader, not sure if that's allowed or not.

I'd also say that no available accomodations will give you "the same access as anyone else."

The final twist to all this is what you feel most comfortable with.  This is your strongest argument for a screen reader vs a human reader.

Jim

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 03:33:09PM -0400, Robert Spangler via nfbcs wrote:
> Hello:
> 
> I find your tone to be confrontational, telling me what I do and don't
> understand.  I absolutely understand a time limit, I'm just trying to get
> the accommodations that will afford me the same access as anyone else.  I
> have done it before.  Also, as I mentioned prior, this same thing was an
> issue a few years back with someone who wanted to take the Bar exam I
> believe it was with JAWS.  If it was resolved that they were able to do
> this, then why can't we for the A+ exam?  The only gamestopper I can see is
> if there are flash simulators or something that are not accessible.  
> 
> I'm sorry, but using a human reader under normal time is not a fair
> accommodation and would put me or any other blind test taker at a
> significant disadvantage.  If I must use a reader, then I will request
> additional time which, by the way, is an option on the accommodations
> request site.
> 
> Thanks,
> Robert
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz via
> nfbcs
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 2:47 PM
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> Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] A+ Certification
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I explained it before and you still don't understand what a time limit is.
> Even with being allowed double time, you won't be able to complete both
> exams because of the interface even if allowed to install jaws which isn't
> an option.
> Depending on how much you study, both exams can be passed with only normal
> time and a reader.
> What type of jobs do you hope to apply for?
> Obtaining a+ didn't help one bit to obtain a help desk position.
> Bryan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Spangler
> via nfbcs
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:38 PM
> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'
> Cc: Robert Spangler; 'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'
> Subject: [nfbcs] A+ Certification
> 
> Hello everyone:
> 
> I will be applying to take the A+ certification exam.  I know I asked about
> this a while back.  Someone responded and told me that the only
> accommodation that they will offer for this exam is a human reader, which to
> me is not acceptable.  I would prefer to take the exam on a computer with
> JAWS/NVDA.  I know this same issue was brought up with the BAR exam and it
> was solved through litigation.  I am prepared to raise the same stink in
> regards to blind people receiving fair and just accommodations.  I would
> like your opinions - is it worth it?  Why wasn't the decision on the BAR
> exam case binding on other testing companies?  If I did succeed in being
> able to take the exam on the computer with a screen reader, would the exam
> be accessible?  I look forward to your responses.  I'm getting pretty damn
> fed up with the belief that a human reader is providing equal access.
> 
> On the other hand, there is part of me that just wants to take the exam and
> get it over with...
> 
> --
> Robert Spangler
> Secretary, Miami Valley Chapter of the National Federation of the Blind of
> Ohio Spangler.robert at gmail.com
> 
> 
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